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A La Carte (10/14)
- 10/14/09
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How Piper Became a Pastor
JT has the full scoop on this, the 30th anniversary of Piper’s decision to become a pastor. I think I can speak for all of us when we say that we’re glad he was obedient to God’s call!
DeYoung, Restless and Reformed
Kevin DeYoung, like Justin Taylor, has pulled up roots and moved his blog to The Gospel Coalition. Will the madness never end? Who is next?
Parents, Obey Your Children?
Dr. Mohler on an interesting phenomenon: “In ‘The Defiant Ones,’ a recent essay published in the New Yorker, Daniel Zalewski argues that picture books for children now reflect a world turned upside down in terms of the relationship between parent and child. As he explains, in the newest picture books for children, the kids are solidly in charge.”
Offensive Play
Malcolm Gladwell has penned an interesting article on football, dog fighting and football.
JT has the full scoop on this, the 30th anniversary of Piper’s decision to become a pastor. I think I can speak for all of us when we say that we’re glad he was obedient to God’s call!
DeYoung, Restless and Reformed
Kevin DeYoung, like Justin Taylor, has pulled up roots and moved his blog to The Gospel Coalition. Will the madness never end? Who is next?
Parents, Obey Your Children?
Dr. Mohler on an interesting phenomenon: “In ‘The Defiant Ones,’ a recent essay published in the New Yorker, Daniel Zalewski argues that picture books for children now reflect a world turned upside down in terms of the relationship between parent and child. As he explains, in the newest picture books for children, the kids are solidly in charge.”
Offensive Play
Malcolm Gladwell has penned an interesting article on football, dog fighting and football.

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Tomorrow we will find out that Challies is the next addition to the allstar blogging team at TGC.
Like wilco, I assumed “you” was the correct response.
I’d be more inclined to agree with Mohler if he, or the writer of the column he quotes, actually gave some examples of picture books that support his theory. I haven’t noticed this trend in the books I read to my (now) three year old, and they’re mostly secular.
In fact, one of the books we read (which won a Caldecott award in 1999) is called “No David!” by David Shannon. In it the child (David) misbehaves and is continually told “No David!”. He is eventually punished with a time out, after which his parents reiterate their love for him.
Wow, that Gladwell article was really disturbing. Food for thought.
I completely agree with Dr. Mohler’s assertion regarding children’s picture books. Going to the library has become an exercise in previewing all books before they go into the tote bag for checkout (we have 5 and 3 year olds). Some sneak through…right now we are dealing with a little girl who won’t listen to her parents’ (or her doctor’s) too-soft advice to stop eating pink treats, so she turns pink. This book is a huge “hit” in kid-lit world spawning pajamas, toys, etc. There’s the old standby “Eloise” whose apparently single-Mom is a jet-setting socialite who leaves Eloise with Nanny at The Plaza hotel - written waaaay back in the ’50s no-less. Don’t even want to go Where the Wild Things Are, the so-called “classic” children’s book… these are just three examples. We’re sticking with McClosky’s “One Morning in Maine” and “Time of Wonder,” thank you.
The blog, (The Literate Parent) in your previous ala carte was a good example of books that carry this message. She reviews “James and the Giant Peach” favorably, as well as some other books that, as I remember, put parents, and God-given authority in a bad light. I remember reading an interview with Roald Dahl and this was his hope, that his books would make children suspect of the authorities over them. Have you ever read a book of his where the parents are wise, productive, kind? Even in “Charlie and the Glass Elevator”, they’re helpless and weak.
Stephanie:
What’s wrong with the pink thing? Seems like it’s an example of a character who disobeys and suffers the consequences thereof.
Eloise- these were written in the 60s from what I can tell. If anything they undermine Mohler and Zalewski’s argument, since Zalewski suggests this is a recent phenomenon. It also doesn’t deal with lack of discipline/authority or the child being “in control”. It does provide an example of an absentee parent.
Where the wild things are- What’s wrong with this one? In the story, Max is sent to his room as punishment. While there he imagines the whole “Wild Things” fantasy. So the book contains an example of a parent disciplining his child. And the discipline is not portrayed unfavorably.
Some parents are cruel. That’s a fact. Roald Dahl is not alone in depicting cruel parents. In James and the Giant Peach, Jame’s actual parents are described as being good and loving. It’s his aunts who are cruel and abusive.
In Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Charlie’s parents and grandparents are depicted as being wise and loving. Charlie only wins Wonka’s contest because he is the only boy who does not misbehave during the tour.
Hey JPH — I don’t want to get into a huge discussion about parenting and discipline philosophies on Challies! :) But I will say that the reason that the little girl turns pink is because she continually disregards her parents (non-disciplinary) correction — that’s the point. She never should have been allowed to disobey her parents, climb to the top of the fridge and steal the pink cupcakes. She finally turns red…and realizes *on her own* in the middle of the night she needs to do something about it, so she eats everything green in the fridge (which had been the “prescription” from the doctor) and turns back to a normal skin tone. There is never an “I told you so, dear” or a consequence from the parents, just a “So, what happened to the rest of the cupcakes, dear?” from Daddy with sweet hugs all around (no discipline). And then, on the last page of the book little brother shows up pink, and announces, “Pink-a-boo!”
Now, I may be making an mountain out of a molehill…there’s no grave disrespect in this book (which my girls adore for obvious reasons — it’s filled with darling pink pictures of pink cupcakes and other treats, there’s the humorous eating of green food, pink fairy costumes etc., but it’s just indicative of much of the children’s fiction that is available. Subtle, yes. Explainable to children, yes.
Regarding “Where the Wild Things Are” — you are right: this book IS about a boy who is sent to his room as a punishment (as opposed to discipline)…where he sits sulking about how the world “should” be — if HE were the king. I think that says it all. We ALL want to be kings of our own destiny, but I think many readers of Mr. Challies’ blog will agree that we aren’t.
Being sent to your room is a form of disciple. It’s just another form of the time out. And it should be noted that he eventually leaves his fantasy, where he’s king, to come back to the reality of being stuck in his room.
Err, that should read “discipline” not “disciple”.
I have always been uneasy about the “Cat in the Hat” books because of the lying and deception they advocate.
Re: Parents Obey Your Children
In the animal kingdom, the lioness teaches her young grooming and hunting skills and enforces weaning; In the professional world, the skilled employee mentors the new hire until the necessary training is in place for their professional success; but where humans are concerned, we are constantly being told that the offspring already has the emotional and social templates for a life of success.
As the mother who said to the doting and non-disciplinary father, “You want your child to love you - I want my child to be loved.” Discipline is an act of love and it’s a fact of life. If children are not lovingly disciplined now, they can look forward to a future of cold hard rules in an unsympathetic world.
I think the issue is the balance. I don’t expect my kids to regard every behavior in storybooks, whether good or bad, as a “model.” People behave in all sorts of ways, and fiction, even fiction for very young children, should reflect that (within the limits of not exposing kids to stuff that is really beyond them.) But a constant diet of books where kids function entirely outside adult constraint and are deemed automatically superior in practical wisdom and good humor isn’t healthy. So I think Mohler is right to be concerned insofar as he’s right that the balance of children’s books tips in a certain direction.