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- 09/20/10
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It’s generally not difficult to tell when I haven’t spent a lot of time online over the course of a weekend—the Monday morning A La Carte tends to be a little bit on the skimpy side. And I guess that must have been the case this weekend. Good for me. Nevertheless, here are a few things of interest:
Can Christians Practice Yoga? - Al Mohler: “Some questions we ask today would simply baffle our ancestors. When Christians ask whether believers should practice yoga, they are asking a question that betrays the strangeness of our current cultural moment -- a time in which yoga seems almost mainstream in America.”
The Facts about Calories - Your infographic du jour (I have a soft spot for infographics).
Why I Am a Christian - John Stott’s classic Why I Am a Christian is on sale at ChristianAudio.
Alice Cooper on Marriage - This is really an interesting video. Skip over the first few seconds (which are in Finnish or something) and listen to Cooper talk about how a man should love his wife.
When God’s hand is on thy back, let thy hand be on thy mouth, for though the affliction be sharp it shall be but short. —Thomas Brooks

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Comments (22)
The language in the video is a finnish person speaking Sweedish :-)
Have to disagree with Mohler. Sure yoga has spiritual roots. Sure you can focus on that aspect, and I’d agree that’s not good.. Or you can completely ignore it. If, at some point in the past, there existed a culture that ritualized push-ups and invested them with spiritual meaning, it would not mean that for me to do push-ups today necessarily connects me to that spiritual tradition.
JPH,
I don’t understand. Are you trying to justify practicing yoga? If so, this doesn’t seem like much defense.
JPH,
If someone had ritualized push-ups that would mean there was more going on then just a push-up. Something that would make it ritual. So would participate in the ritual or would you just do push-ups?
I also have to disagree with Mohler on yoga. Consider one of the fitness-adapted versions of yoga such as the popular P90X yoga videos. From a single viewing of it, I see no trace of its original spiritual roots. It’s no different than any of the aerobics classes you will find in nearly all of the thousands of gyms across America.
My first interaction with yoga was in a P90X video (like Dan mentioned above). I was suspicious of it going in, but in this form it seems almost totally drained of any Hindu practice.
My initial reaction to Mohler’s article is that I agree with his concerns but I’m skeptical of his conclusion. It seems to me that whatever conclusion we come to, we simply must consider how this relates to 1 Corinthians 8-10, in which Paul discusses whether and in what situations Christians can eat food sacrificed to idols (which some believers in Corinth considered a form of syncretism while others did not).
I was disappointed that Mohler never once turned to scriptural paradigms, such as those found in 1 Corinthians, to evaluate this issue. I believe his answer would have been more nuanced if he had.
I’m interested in reading other commenters’ insights into yoga practice in the East and in the West and how biblical teaching helps us think through this complex issue.
@Ethan “I don’t understand. Are you trying to justify practicing yoga? If so, this doesn’t seem like much defense.”
Yes, I am trying to justify practicing Yoga, if by “practicing Yoga” you mean “doing the exercises as a means of achieving physical fitness and relaxation”. I’m not attempting to justify all the spiritual mumbo jumbo.
Mohler, however, tries to argue that the two are inseparable, and I disagree with him on that point.
@Joey: “If someone had ritualized push-ups that would mean there was more going on then just a push-up. Something that would make it ritual. So would participate in the ritual or would you just do push-ups?”
In that hypothetical, I would say “just doing push-ups” is perfectly fine. Mohler, however, seems to be arguing that “just doing push-ups” would not be fine, because it is impossible to divorce push-ups from their spiritual “baggage”.
Dave,
I appreciate your perspective and agree that Mohler could have (read should have) addressed biblical passages that may have some bearing on this subject.
JPH,
I see what you are saying. I was having this same discussion with some of my fellow Christian friends just a few months ago. However, I still cannot see how we can justify participation in yoga exercises. I realize much of what passes as yoga in America these days is watered-down from its original intent, but does that mean that the physical postures of yoga have lost their spiritual connection?
Kimberly Fowler, fitness center owner/yoga expert, has a DVD and a book titled The No OM Zone: No Chanting, No Granola, No Sanskit. Her way of teaching yoga as a workout seems compatible with Christianity to me.
Alice Cooper is surprising. Just last week I watched an interview of his in which he stated that RC Sproul is one of his favorite teachers. What hath God wrought?
Isn’t Dr. Mohler’s argument basically the same argument against letting your kids trick-or-treat on Halloween?
To me this is a Romans 14 issue. If someone believes using yoga exercises for fitness purposes is wrong, they should abstain. However, I don’t think that the “weaker brother” should judge the “stronger brother” just because their conscience doesn’t permit the same freedoms as someone else’s.
So, is Mohler saying that I can’t rent a yoga DVD, put it on mute (or music only-some have that option), and do systematic stretching that help me relax and not be sore?Can’t God be glorified in stretching and exercising? Yes!
I do think we should be mindful to the roots of yoga and some of the things instructors say, but we can turn those into moments to worship God and not the universe.
JPH,
I think Mohler would simply respond by saying that once you divorce the positions and exercise from the chanting/humming/meditation/spiritual aspects, you no longer are participating in Yoga. You are simply stretching and exercising…which is great.
Here is about 7 mins more with Sheryl and Alice Cooper, who have now been married 34 years, as of March, 2010.
“We were both pastor’s kids,” she says. Their commitment to working on making love work is great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNoKcHjaT-4&feature=related
I think Mohler would simply respond by saying that once you divorce the positions and exercise from the chanting/humming/meditation/spiritual aspects, you no longer are participating in Yoga. You are simply stretching and exercising…which is great. —Joey
Maybe we should call it agoy instead? :)
I meant “Sanskrit”…
I have to agree with the others who’re a little skeptical of Mohler’s conclusions. It’s the Christmas tree argument - Christmas trees are supposed to have originated as some kind of pagan worship ritual=> Christmas trees are pagan => Christians ought not to have Christmas trees.
Isn’t one of the blessing of being free in Christ that we can see the general health benefits of a stretching and static muscle-building program and call its mystical hokum truthclaims out for what they are??
I have heard that Alice Cooper is a Christian, yet sometimes I wonder. In his concerts he still does a lot of his old songs that seem to have more in common with Satan that the Lord.He also recently toured with Rob Zombie. http://www.metalinjection.net/tour-dates/rob-zombie-alice-cooper-murderd…
I hate to add another element to the yoga argument but I can’t resist. I can almost understand the controversy with yoga in the sense that it originated with traditional Hindu religious practices but I have never heard or read any Christians commenting on martial arts or have they? Aren’t these arts just as connected to traditional preChristian Japanese, Korean or Chinese religious traditions, such as ancestor veneration or Buddhism, as yoga is to Hinduism? I dropped out of a Judo class once because the instructor told us we needed to bow to the house. I did not feel comfortable with this although I did not see how it was connected to the other things I had learned.
How/Why is is acceptable to learn martial arts, which spring from traditional Asian religious beliefs, but not yoga? I’m definitely not arguing in favor of yoga but I see a contradiction when I see a Christian parent who complains about yoga but who may be willing sign their kid up for Karate or Judo.
Thanks for the Cooper video. Very interesting that he seems to ‘get it.”
Just in case anyone is interested here are a few interesting interviews concerning Alice Cooper. Alice Cooper on being a Christian (he mentions RC Sproul): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oim4OWMANZ4&feature=related
RC Sproul on Alice Cooper.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNrvUZogjho&NR=1
Part of the confusion seems to be over what exactly we Americans are doing when we do “yoga”. For the most part (from what I’ve heard and experienced going to yoga classes in several different states), it’s not really yoga. But we don’t have another name for it, so we call it that. I was very conflicted about trying yoga because of its anti-Christian roots but found myself with a disability that demanded that kind of exercise, so I tried it—to great benefit and no spiritual harm. In 5 years I think I’ve only been told to “empty your mind” twice—I agree that that’s bad, but are other exercise classes filling your head with Biblical truths?—and it’s certainly never moved on to deeper spiritual stuff, and certainly never sexual! (That was awkwardly paranoid, Dr. Mohler.) The silent meditation time at the end of class is easily used for prayer. God made our bodies, and many yoga poses are good ways to keep them agile so that we can better serve Him. Perhaps if you have a history of dabbling in Eastern religions you should avoid it, but if you don’t and if your teacher is not trying to lead the class down that path, it can be a great way for those of us with limitations to stay healthy. I do wish there were a clearer distinction between “practicing yoga” and using yoga poses, for the sake of better understanding.
hi, i just wanted to say that link to the calories infographic has some stumbling images and links on the bottom of that webpage. i had to pry myself away from looking around on that website. just something to consider, thank you!