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Friday February 2, 2007

For The Little Guy

Yesterday afternoon a reader of this site sent me a link to a recent article from WorldNetDaily. According to their “About Us” page, WorldNetDaily is “an independent news company dedicated to uncompromising journalism, seeking truth and justice and revitalizing the role of the free press as a guardian of liberty. We remain faithful to the traditional and central role of a free press in a free society - as a light exposing wrongdoing, corruption and abuse of power. We also seek to stimulate a free-and-open debate about the great moral and political ideas facing the world and to promote freedom and self-government by encouraging personal virtue and good character.” The article the reader wanted me to read is entitled “‘Christian’ bookstore features X-rated flicks.” Bob Unruh, the column’s author, pointed to an article by Paul Proctor that had been posted the day before at NewsWithViews.com. Proctor’s article is titled “
Should Christian Bookstores Offer Anything From Bibles to Porn?
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OK, escort your kids out of the room - lock the door - sit back down at your computer and go to: Christian Heritage Bookstore

Now, brace yourself and type the word “X-Rated” into their website’s search engine and click on the word “search.”

Get the picture?

Ever think you’d see that on a Christian website?

I followed Proctor’s directions and encountered a list of books with titles such as The X-Rated Bible: An Irreverent Survey of Sex in the Scriptures, Family Survival in an X-Rated World and The x-rated book: Sex and obscenity in the Bible. Three of the books had cover photos included in the listing, each of which was fifty pixels wide. One of them showed a painting of Adam and Eve with only fig leaves covering their genitals. Of the other two covers visible, one had only text and the other featured what appeared to be a picture of two boys looking at a computer screen (though at only fifty pixels wide it was difficult to tell).

Proctor then directs his readers to this company’s “About Us” page. Actually, though, this company does not have a statement of faith on their site, so Proctor, perhaps inadvertently, directed readers to a statement of faith for the company that provides Christian Heritage Bookstore’s service. It is a standard, reasonable statement of faith. And then Proctor directs the reader to search for “x-rated” on this company’s site. And lo and behold, the same list of books appears.

“Friends, we’ve got a serious problem in the online Christian bookstore industry,” says Proctor. “You would think that a Christian bookstore is a place where only biblically sound materials are sold. If you take the scriptures literally, like for instance: ‘Abstain from all appearance of evil.’ - 1st Thessalonians 5:22 - and in your heart, believe them to be the inspired and inerrant Word of God, then anything that contradicts it cannot legitimately be considered ‘Christian.’ But, that doesn’t seem to matter anymore, does it?”

He goes on:

Unfortunately, many bookstore owners today believe it is perfectly acceptable to call their online stores ‘Christian’ or imply that they are such, while offering for sale some of the most unchristian merchandise produced. How they justify it before their conscience, their customers and their Christ is beyond me.

By calling their businesses ‘Christian bookstores,’ are they trying to convince us that all they sell is Christian books or that the people who work there are all Christians? Maybe they’re just Christian-owned; or maybe it’s a semantic game they’re playing with us. Maybe they’re actually operating a secular bookstore where only Christians come to shop. Is that it? Technically, any of these could be called ‘Christian bookstores.’ But, doesn’t it seem at least a little deceptive when online bookstores represent themselves as being ‘Christian’ while continually offering the very same junk secular bookstores offer?

And he carries on, eventually concluding that these stores should ‘simply delete the word ‘Christian’ from their name and be done with it[.] At least that would be more accurate… and honest. Then they could proudly peddle their poison to the whole world and nobody would care.”

As I said, Bob Unruh picked up on this story and followed it with one of his own. He dug a little deeper and unearthed other items at this store: “‘Playboy: X Mates, Vol. 1 - BMX/Wakeboards,’ and an adult 4-pack of ‘classics’ titled ‘Debbie Does Dallas,’ ‘Deep Throat,’ ‘Behind the Green Door,’ and ‘The Devil in Miss Jones.’” He points out that “Christian Research Service,” a site directed by Bud Press, has awarded Christian Heritage Bookstore its “Shelves of Shame Award.” Press says ” This online bookstore is a ‘CyberMall Warehouse’ of Cultic, Occultic, Heretical, Homosexual, Lesbian, New Age, Sadomasochism, and Transgender Authors, including The Satanic Bible and X-Rated Movies! This website is ‘Sponsored By Christian Book Network’ which contains the same books and materials!”

I decided to do some research. My initial impression when I visited Christian Heritage Bookstore had been “Hey, this looks like an Amazon aStore.” A further few seconds of research showed this to be the case. It says as much on the home page for Christian Book Network. “With our Amazon approved solution, you get your own custom built bookstore that offers a huge stock of high-quality Christian products from Amazon.com.” The “Why CBN” page provides further detail. But the long and short is that this is a service based around Amazon’s aStore feature. According to Amazon, “aStore is a new Associates product that gives you the power to create a professional online store, in minutes and without the need for programming skills, that can be embedded within or linked to from your website.” In other words, it allows anyone to create a quick and easy bookstore that highlights certain products while opening the complete Amazon catalog to shoppers. Those who take the time to create such a store will earn referral fees and perhaps generate a small income stream.

Clearly Christian Heritage Bookstore, quite probably run by a well-meaning Christian seeking to earn a few dollars, signed up for service through Christian Book Network. In return, CBN provided them with an interface to add a few “Our Picks” books and a few other buttons. Neither Christian Heritage Bookstore nor CBN is an actual retailer and, as I understand the aStore program, neither one has any significant control over store products beyond the “Our Picks” section. That is why on the main pages of both of these sites we see links to Sam Harris’ Letter to a Christian Nation along with a title by Deepak Chopra. Amazon merely lists “religious” bestsellers.

How Proctor found books that appear to laud pornography through these booksellers is anyone’s guess. The fact is, it is extremely improbable (and perhaps even near-impossible) that a person would find pornography through these stores unless, of course, he was specifically looking for it. And I believe Proctor was. I am not suggesting that he was looking to purchase pornography, but that he was deliberately looking for it on this site to provide fodder for an article. I don’t know of too many people who would visit a Christian bookstore website and immediately type “x-rated” into a search box and can think of no other way that anyone would have found these books. Bob Unruh must have gone even further, digging into the Amazon search function to search for x-rated films. Because the aStore program opens Amazon’s complete catalog to customers, there will be all kinds of products available—some good, some bad and some indifferent. There will be books and bibles, pots and pans, computers and stereos and everything else Amazon sells. These men managed to find the bad. And I’m sure it wasn’t difficult to do.

Now whether or not it was wise for Christian Heritage Bookstore to use this service is open for discussion. I looked into aStore in the past and decided not to do it simply because I wasn’t comfortable with the relatively small amount of control it gave to me as the virtual retailer. But to portray this bookstore—it costs the owner some $8 per month and probably generates only a tiny revenue stream—as a major player in the downgrade of Christianity is patently absurd. In this case, only a small amount of research would have shown that this company is not selling porn at all but was merely reselling items from the Amazon catalog. And yet this site has become the subject of several articles and earned a “SHELVES of SHAME AWARD” from Christian Research Service (the irony being, of course, that it appears they did no research into the true nature of this site). It seems to me that at some point we have to assume that people will not go trolling for pornography through a Christian bookstore’s web site. And even if they do, we can only assume so much responsibility for the deeds of other people. News With Views uses Google as its local search engine. I could just as easily use that search engine to access countless quantities of x-rated material. Would that be their fault or mine? What is our responsibility to protect other people from even the remotest possibility of encountering what is ungodly?

And here is another question. How many clicks is too many? Am I responsible for people who click from my site to another and see pornography on that site? Am I responsible for people who click from my site to another and then to a third site and see pornography there? Just for kicks I clicked on an advertising link from the main page of News with Views. From there I clicked one more link, typed x-rated into a search box and was presented with a list of near-pornographic t-shirts. One was emblazoned with the words “I will NOT take this t-shirt off for cheap plastic bonds. I only take cash.” And that was about the most tasteful one on the page. That was only two clicks and a search away. By my calculations, to get to x-rated videos through Christian Heritage Bookstore takes (are you ready for this?) two clicks and a search. Food for thought. Its also interesting that Proctor is willing to post his articles on a site that features advertising with calls to action such as “Take This And Live Forever” (a site advertising Pharmaceutical Grade Fish Oil), or “Retire This Year! … and Still Make More Money Than Most Doctors!” (advertising a method of supposedly making heaps of money while working very little). How are these get rich quick schemes and medical miracle sites that prey on the feeble-minded and take their money any better than pornography?

This is a vivid example of “discernment” gone wrong. If we are going to be discerning people and people who show love to one another, heeding Christians great commandments, we must be willing to do research and to get our facts straight. We must be willing to believe the best of other people rather than always assuming that they are in league with Satan. In this case it seems clear that the authors of these stories did no real research and had no real understanding of the nature of the services they criticized. They went on the attack without first equipping themselves with the facts. Scroll down through the main page of News With Views and you’ll see link after link with a heading of “Opinion.” Ironic. And if WorldNetDaily truly wants to be a credible media outlet “dedicated to uncompromising journalism, seeking truth and justice,” they are going to have to do better than this.

It may be that Christian Heritage Bookstore should rethink its decision to use Amazon’s aStore. There are clearly some moral issues to consider and the affiliates who run these shops may have to wrestle with issues of conscience. But let’s not make this out to be more than it is.

Comments (20) »


1. Lance Roberts
February 2, 2007
11:00 AM

Tim,

It doesn’t seem like you’ve done much research on health. Fish oil is one of the healthiest supplements you can use.


2. Tim Challies
February 2, 2007
11:03 AM

“It doesn’t seem like you’ve done much research on health. Fish oil is one of the healthiest supplements you can use.”

Maybe so. But I don’t like its chances of helping me live forever.


3. candyinsierras
February 2, 2007
11:25 AM

Well…just a few clicks on the now defunct Purgatorio will get you the boxed set of Song of Solomon complete with mood music, suggestive cover and much more. Proctor just didn’t search hard enough. :)


4. Brian @ voiceofthesheep
February 2, 2007
11:34 AM

We must be willing to believe the best of other people rather than always assuming that they are in league with Satan.

Excellent point, Tim. Some years ago, I conducted a men’s study using Sproul’s series Developing Christian Character. In it Sproul emphasizes the obligation we have as Christians to give others the benefit of the doubt.

As to what your responsibility is (and mine and others) concerning those who click from our sites to something else and end up viewing something like porn, surely common sense and discernment must be utilized when assigning blame.

I sure hope so, anyway…seeing as I was just able to access pornopgraphic books with just one click from your own site via a book review on Evangelical Hermeneutics.

Good post, Tim.


5. DLE
February 2, 2007
11:52 AM

When someone spends all his time looking for demons under every rock, he’s bound to find some. A very discouraging story indeed, Tim.

It bothers me that some Christian organizations seem based on Satan’s greatest tool: fear.

Read WorldNet Daily long enough and you realize that nearly every news article and opinion piece they run is based on fear. And it’s not just WND. Many of the so-called discernment ministries out there operate off the same handwringing, “the world’s going to hell in a handbasket” hysteria. It should come as no surprise then that they’re beginning to “discern” each other.

All very sad.

It pays to remember…

…for God gave us a spirit not of fear but of power and love and self-control.
(2 Timothy 1:7 ESV)

Perhaps the best thing any of us can do is to simply stop listening to these apostles of fear.


6. Tom Gee
February 2, 2007
12:06 PM

A similar problem happens when Christian bloggers use Google AdSense advertisements on their web pages. Although it says “Advertisements by Google” around the frame, I still feel uncomfortable with what seems to be a tacit commendation for the elements advertised.

On Christian blog sites I’ve seen plenty of heretical material advertised, simply because of the keyword search AdSense uses.


7. c hall
February 2, 2007
12:21 PM

Tim,

Thanks so much for giving us a lesson on what true discernment and research is… especially in light of the previous comment on listening to these “apostles of fear”.

Also, keep in mind that Paul Proctor is the man who published numerous articles about Kyle Lake (the former pastor of University Baptist Church in Waco, TX) dying during a baptismal service as a result of God’s judgment upon the emerging church.


8. Carla Rolfe
February 2, 2007
12:22 PM

Just a few words on the way the aStores work.

As a storefront owner, you have several options when listing merchandise. You can list Amazon’s top sellers (wide category), or via subcategories, or via individual products that you chose yourself. Or, you can combine various combinations of all three options under various different categories. You really do have quite a bit of control over the way your listings show.

You can also place a disclaimer at the top of any page in your store, making sure your readers/shoppers know that it IS an Amazon aStore, and linking into the search category will list the entire catalog of items Amazon sells.

I have 2 of these stores, and I have no issue whatsoever with using them to showcase the best of what Amazon does have to offer. Family-friendly stuff, as it were. However, if you went to either of my aStores, it would take mere seconds to link into a category that I don’t actually list (I’m very picky about what I will list at either store) and find massive amounts of highly objectionable material. People doing that, already know they’re linking OUTSIDE of my store, and into Amazon’s wide variety of merchandise that is clearly not listed at my store (for what should be obvious reasons).

All that to say this: trashy junk is never more than a click away, no matter what kind of site you’ve got. Using the net should be done as responsibly as possible, by all - site/blog/store owners, as well as surfers & lurkers. As well, when in doubt, ASK, rather than assume the worst of a site owner.

My 4 cents on all this…


9. Tim Challies
February 2, 2007
12:23 PM

“On Christian blog sites I’ve seen plenty of heretical material advertised, simply because of the keyword search AdSense uses.”

I’ve seen that too. That’s one reason I’ve never run the AdWords. I don’t really want ads for the Book of Mormon displayed here!


10. Kara
February 2, 2007
12:31 PM

You’re killing me. I was all looking forward to the end of the birth control articles (although this one is good, too)! What happened??


11. brian
February 2, 2007
12:47 PM

Tim,

I remember seeing an article on this a couple of weeks back in Digg. You’ve stated it correctly. Some companies use a ‘virtual’ representation of their storefront from another supplier. That supplier doesn’t subscribe to the same values as the company and values appear compromised. The company has only one choice, to disconnect the service - i.e. they do not have editorial control over what search results are presented.

A great example for our need of discernment. “Going on the attack” implies pride and chest-thumping self-righteousness, which the Bible says are not traits of the wise or discerning. Prov 29 states:

9 If a wise man goes to court with a fool,
the fool rages and scoffs, and there is no peace.
10 Bloodthirsty men hate a man of integrity
and seek to kill the upright.
11 A fool gives full vent to his anger,
but a wise man keeps himself under control.

As already stated, it is sad when we shoot our own soldiers, although it must keep Satan amused.

Does it follow that discernment produces control? I think that is a key concept. Should we participate in events we cannot control? Do unforeseen consequences reflect on the character of those accused? I don’t think so. Our responses to these things certainly do. But it is difficult if not impossible to extend our control to the world (which is only ‘two clicks’ away in all our lives). Rather than hide in a box, discernment helps us to deal with those things we can control and influence (not dictate) those we cannot.


12. Shannon
February 2, 2007
2:39 PM

Tim,

Good post. Discernment is like a double edged sword, it can cut both ways.

A quick note that may have gotten lost in your post is that there is much truth to the fact that our “christian” bookstores are seriously lacking in quality books that are Biblically sound. One only needs to visit one to see the plethora of “best sellers” from the likes of Bell, McLaren, Miller, Osteen, Warren, etc. They are more concerned about what sells as opposed to what is Biblical.

Of course, to take that issue and and run with it to the point of making accusations that they are pushing porn is over reacting and making claims that one can’t really prove.

Discernment is critical, but so responsible reporting.


13. Darren
February 2, 2007
2:45 PM

In Proctor’s original article, he instructed the reader to do a search for “X-Rated” directly from Christian Heritage Bookstore’s website. Which I did, and which it did work to bring up other products from Amazon and not just Christian Heritage’s Bookstore.
I’ve gone back to the website and done the same thing, and now it doesn’t work. So apparently there have been some changes to the search features of this website.
Theoretically someone could go to a Christian bookstore website and do a search for x-rated. There are several Christian related books with the words x-rated in them. Or suppose someone is having trouble with pornography and they are looking for a book to help them with their addiction. They type in the word “porn” or “pornography” and the results reveal actual pornographic material. That’s not helpful!
I appreciated your article and I agree that this story has been blown out of proportion, but there’s still some validity to the warning Proctor was giving.
Matthew 10:16
I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves.


14. ianmcn
February 2, 2007
2:55 PM

The amusing thing about this is the huge amount of free publicity Proctor and WND have unwittingly provided this store! I’m sure they won’t be complaining!


15. Brian
February 2, 2007
3:47 PM

I agree with you Tim, when it comes to brothers and sisters in Christ, we ought to practice what Paul writes to the church in Corinth, “Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.” He is not saying we are to be gullible or naive, but that we are to assume the best (believe all things and hope all things).

Let’s not forget to extend grace to Proctor and WND and their lack of knowledge about the functionality involved with the aStore. However, I understand that they must be more responsible and I think it is a good thing to hold them to that. If Tim and Carla hadn’t explained things, I would’ve been ignorant about the aStore stuff (thanks Tim and Carla).

Sort of off topic, but we should all protect ourselves (especially the men) from things like this by having an internet filter or by using our browser’s content controls. That will assist us in avoiding any inadvertent missteps that could lead to sin. Having an internet connection without some type of controls or accountability is like having a pornographic magazine sittin’ on the coffee table in your living room.


16. Chris Umphlett
February 3, 2007
8:52 AM

thank you for suspending your judgment and looking into this… very applicable lesson that should be applied many other times for us


17. Joe
February 3, 2007
11:36 AM

One important aspect of what passes for discernment is for one to have all of the facts on a subject and to withhold final judgement until one does.

Good, informative post!


18. chris
February 3, 2007
12:04 PM

This comment is for C Hall with regards to Mr. Proctor’s articles on Kyle Lake. Be careful what you are saying about that incident. I don’t know what happened and nobody knows but God. But God has many times taken out His elect because of disobedience and not teaching the truth. If Mr. Lake was not preaching or teaching God’s truth in scriptures as the Emergent church is notorious for. Then maybe God out of his Judgement and Holiness did take away a false teacher. I don’t know but lets not rush to judgement on this.


19. c hall
February 3, 2007
4:46 PM

Hey Chris,

I appreciate your comment. But your point about not rushing to judgment is exactly the point I was making. Instead, we need to show discernment. I did not cast judgment on the Kyle Lake situation, but I reminded the readers that Mr. Proctor was the one to declare what happened to Pastor Lake as God’s judgment upon the emerging church. And you’re right, only God knows what happened. But part of discernment is understanding where someone is coming from by viewing what they have previously published. I believe Mr. Proctor is on dangerous ground declaring God’s judgment like a prophet.

And perhaps God took Pastor Lake in His merciful judgment as someone who’s teaching was not completely accurate to the truth of Scripture. But if that is the case may we all be in fear before God (especially us teachers and blog commenters) lest we cast judgment ourselves and find ourselves condemning ourselves (Rom. 2:1-2). I can think of quite a number of heritics much more dangerous than an emerging church pastor.


20. steve s
February 4, 2007
12:05 AM

This raises a question for me.

Has the internet replaced local pastoring? And is this that the root of the problem?

I think that is some of what is happening at times. We have the Christian “this and that” using today’s technology to the point of people using only these as sources of Christian communication.

I don’t have any problem with the use of technology but I am becoming more appreciative of those pastors who “know the sheep” and care for them on a personal basis. Perhaps the technology we have should be in addition to not instead of the local pastors.

Just a thought. Maybe not a good one though…