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05/22/07
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The Boxing of God

A couple of years ago I got thinking about the idea of putting God in a box. This is a charge people often level at conservative Christians and Reformed folk in particular. It is not unusual for us to hear that we seem to feel that we have got God figured out, stuffed and mounted on the wall. And to some extent this may be true. I began to write about this and soon came up with a short series of posts. I’ve been thinking about this again recently and wanted to take the opportunity to revisit this series, tear it apart and try to do it again. So over the next few days I want to talk about our propensity to put God in a box, see how this is happened and what we can do to escape this temptation. I hope you’ll find the series both interesting and useful.

My family used to own a beautiful cottage in the woods near one of the most picturesque villages in Ontario. This village was once a center of commerce along the Rideau Lake system - a series of canals and both natural and artificial lakes that span the 200 kilometers between the cities of Kingston and Ottawa. The canal system was built in the early part of the nineteenth century to provide a quick avenue of travel should hostilities once again break out between the United States and Canada. Today it stands as a part of this nation’s history and as a peaceful and beautiful vacation destination.

This village, named Chaffey’s Locks after Samuel Chaffey, one of its first inhabitants, now has a population of only a hundred people. Yet it was once a bustling town centered around a series of rapids flowing between two lakes. Because of the thirteen foot difference in elevation between the lakes, a dam and a lock had to be built in this town. The dam held back the water and created a fast-flowing series of rapids that provided the energy to run Chaffey’s mills. Farmers from miles around came to the town to use these mills, and it grew, quickly becoming one of the most important towns along the Rideau. Though Chaffey died of malaria only seven years after founding these mills, by the time of his death his milling complex consisted of grist, carding and saw mills and a distillery. The town was prospering.

The importance of the town was inseparable from the dam. It was this dam that held back the water, confining it and then allowing it to be released with the power to drive the mills. Without the dam the town would have been no more important than any of the other villages dotting the length of the system of lakes and canals.

Most Christians, whether they will admit it or not, have dammed God in much this way. We have erected barriers around Him, seeking to constrain Him within a system of theology. We often seem to think that the tighter we box Him in, the greater the power we will be able to bring to bear when we release Him. In the same way that water, when placed under enough pressure can drive the wheel of a mill, or can even cut through steel, so we believe that God is at His most powerful when He is most constrained within a system of theology.

In this article series I would like to examine some of the ways we have put God in a box and suggest ways we can free ourselves from this box. It is worth noting that while I suggest we are the ones who put God in a box, we are also the ones who need to be freed. That is simply because we may put God in a box in our minds, but this in no way affects His character or His ability to act. God cannot be bound except in our minds.

Before we begin, we need to reconcile God’s revelation of Himself with our ability to understand Him. In other words, has God put Himself in a box? God has given us knowledge of Himself, both through Creation and through the Scriptures. But the Bible is clear that this is not complete knowledge — it is only and exactly what we need to know about Him. He told us no more than we need and no less than He considered beneficial. Whenever we study God, we need to acknowledge that He defines the limits of our study. James White writes, “If we wish to know God truly, we must be willing to allow Him to reveal to us what He wants us to know, and He must be free as to how He wants to reveal it. He has given us a treasure trove of truth about Him, but He has not deemed it proper to reveal everything there is to know (if such is even possible). We dare not go beyond the boundaries He has set in His Word” (James White, The Forgotten Trinity, page 34). As Francis Schaeffer pointed out, God has given us true knowledge but of Himself, but not exhaustive knowledge. God is the one who sets the limits as to what we can know and how much we can know.

Thus while God reveals Himself most fully through the Scriptures, this does not place Him in a box. He gives us His Word so that we can know and understand Him, but only so far as finite humans can understand an infinite God. “He defies our categories and our feeble attempts to comprehend Him. If He didn’t, He wouldn’t be God” (The Forgotten Trinity, page 42). God is not contained in Scripture — He is merely revealed in part and in a way we can understand.

There is a difficulty inherent in attempting to define what is indefinable. The barrier is language. How can a finite mode of communication such as words, do justice to what is infinite? In truth, it cannot. Words cannot adequately express who God is and how He works. Humans communicate by means of examples. We compare one thing to another and compile a database in our minds of like objects. Many years ago I used to work at a Starbucks and people would often ask me what the different types of coffee tasted like. To answer I would try to determine whether the person often drank high quality coffee or if he usually drank coffee from the local donut store. If he was accustomed to donut shop coffee, I might say “this coffee tastes like a very strong cup of Tim Horton’s coffee.” Of course there may be other varieties of coffee that taste more like this new one than Tim Horton’s, but those flavors have not yet been inputted into his database. As he continued to visit the store and as his knowledge of coffee increased I was able to provide more concise and more accurate descriptions based on closer comparisons. “It has a lighter, smoother taste than the flavor you drank last time you were here.” Or “this coffee has a strong, earthly flavor much like the Sumatra.” In either case I still use only use comparisons but I can draw more accurate comparisons because his frame of reference has increased.

This process works quite well. Or it does until we attempt to define something that is truly unique. Much of God’s revelation of Himself, even the portion of it that He has given to us, is truly unique. There is nothing we can use to adequately compare with God’s omnipresence or with the Trinity, to provide only two examples. And so our language limits us from true understanding. (For more on this, see chapter 2 of The Forgotten Trinity).

Thus we need a spirit of humility as we approach the Word of God, knowing that it tells us many things about God, but not everything. And while we can truly know God, we cannot know Him fully. We would do well to keep several passages in mind. “The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but the things that are revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may do all the words of this law” (Deuteronomy 29:29). “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts” (Isaiah 55:8-9).

Again, we must remember that while what He has revealed of Himself is entirely truthful, it is by no means complete. In Psalm 131 David affirms that there are some things that He can never understand. “O Lord, my heart is not lifted up; my eyes are not raised too high; I do not occupy myself with things too great and too marvelous for me.” David’s response is important. “But I have calmed and quieted my soul, like a weaned child with its mother; like a weaned child is my soul within me.” David is at peace, resting in his understanding that God does have full knowledge and that He is fully in control, even of those things we do not understand. This leads him to exhort his people to “hope in the Lord from this time forth and forevermore.” David’s understanding of his own limitations leads him to worship the One who knows all.

It may be helpful to view God’s revelation of Himself as the framework that defines the edges to a box. God has revealed Himself to us within this framework. While what He has told us is surely truthful, it may not be complete. When God tells us within Scripture that “I will never leave you nor forsake you” (Hebrews 13:5) we can have confidence that He means it. He will never leave nor forsake those who believe in Him. When Scripture assures us that God is not the author of sin, we know that the words are true and that God is in no way culpable for the sin in the world. And when we read “we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose” (Romans 8:28) we can have confidence that God does mean “all things.” He does not send us purposeless calamity. These things that God tells us He will not or cannot do serve as a framework around which we can understand Him. The fact is, if God did not provide us with a framework within which we can understand Him, we would be unable to comprehend Him in any way. To repeat an important point — God is not contained in Scripture — He is merely revealed in a way we can understand.

I would now like to move on to show how we are prone to place God in a box. Within the Reformed tradition there are three major emphases that have flourished in the past. I believe they provide a helpful framework through which we can understand the ways we box God.

The first emphasis is the doctrinalist. This emphasizes adherence to doctrine and theology as taught in the Bible and in the creeds and confessions of the church.

The second emphasis is the pietist. This emphasizes God’s work in one’s daily life and a close, personal walk with God.

The third emphasis is the transformationalist. This emphasizes the importance of relating the message of the Bible to the world.

These three emphasizes may overlap to some extent, and there is a sense in which we are making false distinctions, yet they provide a helpful breakdown. We will examine each of these three in further articles.

The Boxing of God

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1. Spencer
May 22, 2007
11:00 AM

Wow, this is so convicting. I feel like I really needed to hear this. I feel like I tend to put God in a box a lot, and I am begging God to break me free to live in the freedom of the Spirit that He has caused to dwell within me. Thanks for sharing!


2. Samantha
May 22, 2007
12:33 PM

Once God reveals to us His sovereignty and His other attributes, the more and more we fall in love with Him…the more He causes us to love Him.

We are so bent on changing Him into our image, when we should be concentrating in being changed into His.


3. Ray Miller
May 22, 2007
12:55 PM

Re: God in a Box Perhaps the underlying issue for reformers is not so much that we have tended to box God inside our very precise statements of doctrine but that we have concentrated so much of our attention on the Father alone even though this concentration is very honoring to Him and He is most worthy of our eternal praise and worship.

Specifically, it would be refreshing to hear more sermons from our leading reformed preachers and scholars about the role of the Son and the Spirit in the accomplishment of God’s eternal purposes including His ministry of reconciliation and redemption for those who have been chosen by Him to exalt and enjoy Him forever.

My heart burns with great intensity and adoration and love for the Trinue God who in sovereign majesty drew me to Himself. I am thankful for Dr. Bruce Ware who so passionately and clearly has reminded us of the particular roles and responsibilities of each the three persons of the Trinity. When we contemplate the overwhelming presence of the Trinity we most assuredly realize the impossibility of perfectly understanding God let alone any attempt to place Him in a box.

Ray Miller Niagara Falls


4. Ann Addison
May 22, 2007
1:23 PM

Tim, excellent post! I look forward to reading the series. I would like to Digg this post, but I don’t see and appropriate category. Under podcasts they have a category for religion, but I don’t see one elsewhere. I cannot find where to post this. Any ideas?

I would love for some reformed folk to be able to friend each other on Digg. I like to use Friends for story filters. I don’t post much, but like to read there, but prefer to read stories others have recommended. btw, I’m mousenaround on Digg.


5. David Giarrizzo
May 22, 2007
3:06 PM

Tim,

Thanks for your thoughts. As I was reading and saw the bottom of the post approaching, I thought to myself, “No, don’t stop yet!”

I can’t wait to read more of your thoughts on this subject. Born and raised in the home of a Reformed Baptist pastor, I have also thought about how Reformed Baptists put God in a box — though not to the extent that I hope you continue to share.

Also, it was wise of you to include the quotes from “The Forgotten Trinity” — very appropriate! I have stood next to James in years past as he shared the Gospel to Mormons outside their temple in Mesa, Arizona, and I have heard him explain to LDS individuals who were not understanding the reality of the Trinity the very thing that you quoted from his book: “He defies our categories and our feeble attempts to comprehend Him. If He didn’t, He wouldn’t be God.”

EXACTLY!…If we could comprehend the almighty God of the universe, what kind of God would that really be?

Thank you again, Tim, and keep ‘em coming!

David Giarrizzo


6. Mark
May 22, 2007
4:10 PM

Ray, I admire the frankness of your post and your desire to explore more deeply the attributes and roles of the Son and the Spirit.

Many of ‘our leading reformed preachers and scholars’ have and do in fact devote significant attention to the roles of the Son and the Spirit, in the realization that we know the Father only through the agency of the Son and that the Spirit came to testify to the Son.

All the following are books unless otherwise noted. Just a smattering of what’s out there:

John Piper: Seeing & Savouring Jesus Christ, Fifty Reasons Why Jesus Came to Die, etc.

R.C. Sproul: The Glory of Christ

Kris Lundgaard: Through the Looking Glass

Sam Storms: Convergence, The Glory of Christ CDs

C.J. Mahaney: Living the Cross Centered Life, The Main Thing CDs

J.I. Packer: Keep in Step With the Spirit

MacArthur, Sproul, Piper, Mahaney, Dever, Mohler: Preaching the Cross

And ‘The Nature of God’ by A.W. Pink from Moody Press not only explores the attributes of the Father, but the attributes of Christ.

Thanks for bearing with me for posting this list, Tim.


7. Brian @ voiceofthesheep
May 22, 2007
4:44 PM

Boy, using the term “placing God in a box” can have so many different implications on so many different levels.

If any description of God I formulate comes from Scripture, is that putting Him in a box? Or, is making an unbiblical caricature of Him putting Him in a box?

For example, if I say that God will only draw to Christ the ones who are saved, and He will save no one else, is that putting Him in a box?

Or, if I say, God is obligated to save everyone who sincerely prays a prayer asking Him into their heart, is that putting Him into a box?

In other words, is putting God in a box having a biblical theology about who God is as revealed in His word, but going no further…or is it having an unbiblical theology about God which ends up not being the real God anyway?

Is it possible to have correct theology and still put God in a box? If so, how?

Thanks.


8. Roger
May 22, 2007
9:06 PM

I appreciate the fact that you are tackling this important topic. There is such a fine line that must be walked in this discussion. The concern about putting God in a box leads some to question truth. Perhaps that’s what Brian is getting at in his post. Rob Bell, in an article in Christianity Today says, “The Bible is still in the center for us but it’s a different kind of center. We want to embrace mystery, rather than conquer it.” In the same article, Kristen Bell is quoted as saying, “I grew up thinking that we’ve figured out the Bible, that we knew what it means. Now I have no idea what most of it means. And yet I feel like life is big again — like life used to be black and white, and now it’s in color.” This from a pastor and wife of a large church in Grand Rapids, Michigan.

Somehow we have to really learn what you mentioned in your post — that what we know of God is absolutely true, but there is more that He has not revealed. The truth He has given us is understandable. There’s a kind of false humility in backing away from the assertions of Scripture under the guise of not wanting to put God in a box.

We need to declare boldly and with certainty what we know is true of God while at the same time remembering out position of creatures who do not know God completely.

I’m looking forward to reading the rest of the series.


9. afrikaner
May 22, 2007
10:52 PM

Wow what box are we going to look at first? * the reformed box? * the arminian box? * the dispensationalist box? * the liberal box? * the legalist box? * the antinomian box * the north American box? * the Asian box? * the Australian box? * the cessasionist box? * the charismatic box? * the KJV box?

So many boxes - but no box will never, ever contain God and to some extent God has found His way into all sorts of churches which have tried to box Him in …. despite the boxes, to the praise of His glory.


10. Marc @ The Jonah Syndrome
May 23, 2007
7:12 AM

Great post and great comments. I’m going to address Brian’s as I think I resonated most with his concern about “theology” boxing God.

The best illustration I’ve heard on this topic came from none other than Piper and he used a mountain analogy. He asked those who were there to imagine climbing a mountain. It’s a journey and it’s hard. You go after it. It takes work. He said (And I’m paraphrasing here) “Imagine getting to the top of that mountain only to look out across the horizon and see thousands more that are out there. So it is with God. While ascending to the top of a mountain with Him here in exhilirating and awe-inspiring, spending eternity to discover the remaing mountains out there will be an unending joy with our Creator because there will always be another one out there”.

As I read the post, that’s what I thought about the most. We do have definite ways to know God here, but they are NOT all that we will know about Him and even when we enter into eternity with Him, we will spend the rest of time discovering more. There is a definite need for “Biblical” boundaries here. But there is also a forward-looking anticipation to discover what we don’t know yet.


11. Brian @ voiceofthesheep
May 23, 2007
9:26 AM

Marc,

I agree with your comments, and Piper’s analogy of the mountains creates a good picture of how inexhaustible God is…and will be for all eternity.

I fear that some use the charge against others of putting God in a box in such a way that implies that what is still unknown about God may change or alter or even nullify what is already known about Him, or they will say that we were just not meant to know the real truth, even though whatever is in question has already been revealed in Scripture.

That was the main reason for my questions. If someone does indeed have correct theology…and they hold hard and fast to that theology…are they putting God in a box? Can I hold to correct theology and hold that there is still a vast amount about God that I do not know? Can I hold hard and fast to what I do know with the confidence that whatever I don’t yet know about God will not change what I already know as revealed in Scripture?