I once heard a Senior Pastor say, “This is a church that is primarily for the unchurched and for new believers. If you want to listen to deep sermons and really grow as a Christian you’ll probably have to go elsewhere.” At least he was honest. Not surprisingly, members who had been Christians for a few years tended to drift away from the church and head to nearby alternatives that placed greater emphasis on discipleship and growth. This same pastor suggested that these other churches were “sheep stealing” but in my mind they were simply providing what Christians both want and need. They were providing milk instead of trying to mollify the people with a steady diet of skim milk.
My son turned seven today and I was just thinking about what a big kid he has become. I can remember when he was tiny and when all he wanted was to nurse. I can remember when Aileen and I could grill up two nice steaks and have a good and reasonably cheap meal. As Nick got older he started to eat real food, so Aileen and I would grill up our steaks and make a pot of macaroni and cheese for the kids. It was still a cheap meal. But not anymore. Today we have to make up enough steak for four of us. Nick has realized that steak is far better than macaroni and he wants to dig his teeth into that meat. This is a good and natural progression for him! In fact, our doctor is just a little concerned about Michaela who seems to like her milk too much. She doesn’t have much of an appetite for anything else and just wants to nurse. This is fine for now, but will need to ease off soon if she is to maintain a healthy rate of growth.
It seems to me that this is exactly what the author of Hebrews meant when he wrote, “About this we have much to say, and it is hard to explain, since you have become dull of hearing. For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the basic principles of the oracles of God. You need milk, not solid food, for everyone who lives on milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, since he is a child. But solid food is for the mature, for those who have their powers of discernment trained by constant practice to distinguish good from evil” (Hebrews 5:11-14). If my seven-year-old was still feasting on milk and refusing meat he would not be a healthy kid. He would be weak, sickly and starving. The quick progression from milk to meat is good, natural and necessary.
In the last two weeks I read a couple of books that got my mind working. The first, The Faithful Preacher by Thabiti Anyabwile, provided a brief biography of Daniel Payne. Payne, who lived from 1811 to 1893, believed in the importance of an educated pastorate rather than simply allowing anyone to preach who somehow felt called to the task. While he was primarily interested in educating pastors, he knew that the church, and the African American church in particular, could never outgrow its level of education. The second book, The Faith of Condoleeza Rice by Leslie Montgomery is a biography of Condoleeza Rice and one that discusses the turbulent years when America was wrestling with the issue of race. Nearly a century after Payne, the African American population knew that if they were ever to attain equal footing they would need to be educated. As long as they were kept uneducated, they would never be able to gain equality. Rice is a living testimony to the equaling effect of education, having risen to a position of unequaled prominence for an African American woman.
As I thought about this, I thought of the many churches out there, and many average evangelical churches would fit this mold, that are somehow afraid or unwilling to really educate the laity. They deliberately attempt to keep the laypeople ignorant of theology. They provide endless amounts of fads, entertainment and “Christian living,” but refuse to clearly and deliberately teach deeper theology. They do this, I think, for two reasons. First, these pastors believe that their people are simply not interested in learning real theology. This would be particularly true in churches where a lot of those attending are unbelievers. But in a church where most of the people are truly saved, there will be a hunger for meat. Second, these pastors want to keep the people ignorant in order to avoid having to defend themselves against the inevitable questions. Those who are kept ignorant are unable to ask deep and probing questions about leadership, theology and other issues. A pastor can keep himself from having to face the difficult issues by keeping his members unaware of them.
I am grateful that many Christians are realizing that if the church is ever to avoid going into eclipse in this culture, we will not necessarily need greater and stronger leaders, but we will need an educated laity. I was interested to see that just today Thabiti Anyabwile, reflecting on what the African American church needs to do in order to be reformed, writes about this very subject.
Popular education. We need to figure out a way to provide air cover for those soldiers on the ground laboring for reform. That “air cover” comes, I think, with popular education. How many of you reading this post came to a Reformed understanding of the faith through Ligonier Ministries—their radio broadcast or TableTalk magazine? My journey began there. Well, how does Ligonier see themselves? As providing education somewhere between Sunday school and seminary. In other words, it’s a solid effort to reach the average Christian with educational resources that create the ambient atmosphere for growth and change. We need to do two things, I think. One, we need to figure out a way to get more Ligonier material and other material like it to our congregations. We don’t have to replicate everything. Use the good stuff already out there; introduce our people to great teachers and their resources rather than letting the local Christian bookstore stock their shelves with the cotton candy that sells and passes as Christian literature these days
I think this is as true for evangelical churches in general. An educated laity—a laity that knows the Bible and thus knows and serves God as He really is—this will be the key to building a stronger, healthier church.






Comments (27) »
1. Bill Kinnon
March 5, 2007
12:31 PM
Tim,
As much as I dislike the term “laity” as I believe it creates an artificial separation in the priesthood of all believers, I couldn’t agree more with your post regarding the need for proper education of the entire body of Christ. Too many evangelical churches are oriented only towards “gettin’ em saved” rather than raising up disciples. As if their profession of faith is an end unto itself.
2. Josh Rives
March 5, 2007
12:53 PM
Maybe churches could spend less on technology and entertainment value and invest in more staff who can take the time to teach and build relationships with the church members.
Just a thought…not that we need more people in “paid ministry”
3. carissa
March 5, 2007
1:04 PM
1. it would be cool if more churches did catechism.
2. i have always wondered about this education thing in the church. what about churches in poor urban or rural areas where education itself is not the highest priority and is even (in some ways) unavailable? what about non-north american churches, churches in developing countries and indigenous churches across the globe?
it’s fascinating to me that God would give his revelation through the written word. unlike spoken language, humans do not have an instinctive ability to read. yet the fact that God chose written scripture for special revelation, and not music or visual arts etc, seems to suggest that literacy is important to christians whether we like it or not. i often come across christians who say they’re “not a reader” and therefore aren’t interested in the abundant written resources available to christians. but it seems that God has called us all to be “readers.” i would almost call it a spiritual discipline…?
4. Michelle-This One's for the Girls
March 5, 2007
1:42 PM
Excellent post.
My husband labors diligently to give the flock a theological education each week. It can be a difficult task among a rural, UNREADING people; but he feels it is his responsibility.
5. The Cutting Truth
March 5, 2007
3:56 PM
Here’s the ugly truth:
Nobody cares about theology.
There are a few exceptions of course. Namely, there are two types of people who are interested in theology:
1. Those who have gone to seminary. They have spent a lot of money on education and books, and have acquired quite a bit of knowledge. It pleases them to talk about theology because it makes them feel smarter, holier, and generally better than people around them. And it pleases them even more to decry the dearth of theological understanding among “the flock” for the same reasons, only more so.
2. Those who have a peculiar taste for theology. It’s not that they’re especially more spiritual, or have a deeper hunger for spiritual things. But they just have this quirky interest. The way some people have a quirky interest in studying turtles, or reading up on WWII, or in orinthology or in acanthology or in uranography or, well, in theology. People who are interested in theology (for its sake alone) are often just as weird as those interested in acanthology or uranography, but are usually a lot more sanctimonious.
Other than these two classes of people (who often like to write blogs decrying the lack of theological depth in the church today), most people don’t give a whiff about theology.
Please don’t kill the messenger here. I’m not saying theology is unimportant. I am only making a keen and accurate observation here about the average church folk: it’s an observation, not an endorsement, I’m making. But the simple truth is that people do not care about theology.
And I’m going to make another observation which will surely draw some ire. Some of the holiest, godliest people I know do not know the difference between something as simple as calvinism and arminianism. On the other hand, some of the most nauseating of believers I’ve had the misfortune of knowing can articualte the differences between say, Kantian Ontotheology and Heidegger’s metaphysics.
6. Sarah
March 5, 2007
4:55 PM
The ‘ugly truth’ that nobody cares about theology is creating a Church that doesn’t know true doctrine well enough to recognize deception when it creeps in subtly. That is why we’re commanded to continue on in learning what is true doctrine.
I am amazed by the genuine Christians around me that accept such things as centering prayer, the new apostolic movement…etc without question or checking their Bibles first. I think the responsibility for this falls on us as much as on our pastors.
7. Josh
March 5, 2007
4:59 PM
I once heard a Senior Pastor say, “This is a church that is primarily for the unchurched and for new believers. If you want to listen to deep sermons and really grow as a Christian you’ll probably have to go elsewhere.”
I am appalled at how many times I have heard this sort of thing from the pulpit. “We’re just simple folks around here…” is the standard reply when you ask about it.
I think in the medical world, if you get a child that doesn’t progress, they call it ‘failure to thrive’.
Josh
“…the word of God is not bound.”
—2 Timothy 2:9
8. Matthew
March 5, 2007
5:17 PM
Another problem is that many church’s who see the importance of theology are often very poor when it comes to concern about evangelism and the lost. Instead, they like to pride themselves on their ability to ‘disciple’ the members of their flock to mature faith while never realizing a basic theological truth. There is no mature spirituality without evangelism. One of the basic tenets of a mature, faithful and passionate believer is that they cannot help but share the gospel of Jesus Christ with others.
5. The Cutting Truth
Your two categories are sadly accurate…at times. However, there are also individuals who are passionate about theology, not just because they went to seminary or it scratches their itch, but because they have seen the effect it has had on their relationship with Jesus Christ. Furthermore, they promote the pursuit of theology so that others may also deepen their understanding and experience of rich communion with Jesus Christ.
Grace and Peace
9. James
March 5, 2007
5:20 PM
From my experience, the Cutting Truth (#5) is on to something. Especially his last paragraph.
Michelle (#4) also hits a nail on the head… most Christian people do not read T-H-E-O-L-O-G-Y ! They don’t read anything of substance really.
10. Brian @ voiceofthesheep
March 5, 2007
5:26 PM
Tim,
Our church makes recommendations each month of books to read, and also provides its members with free copies of Tabletalk magazine to anyone interested, in addition to expositing the Word and providing rich teaching outside of worship on Sundays.
At our previous large SBC church (as a teacher), I was shocked over and over again at the lack of discernment on the part of the congregation (and even many of the teachers) with respect to solid resources vs. terrible ones. Looking back, I think at least one important reason for that was that the church as a whole wasn’t (still isn’t) getting any good godly leadership and direction and discipleship from the leadership that you and Thabiti mention.
Thabiti is right, we don’t have to reinvent the wheel, either. There are great resources available…we just need to get them into the hands of the church. Sadly, though, many in the church today would choke on the meat of those solid resources.
11. Jane
March 5, 2007
5:51 PM
Perhaps we are wrong to use the term Theology. I see it this way. I am in love with my God and therefore delight in learning about Him in every way I can. He has revealed Himself in His Word. I want to understand Him. If people want to live with their spouse or children, they have to study them to love them better. It goes the same for growing in our relationship with God.
12. Kate
March 5, 2007
6:07 PM
Speaking from personal experience (and including myself), there are certainly people out there who like the meatier stuff, but have trouble getting it in church, and must always be self taught.
A step further, I have been dismissed in the past because I am a woman and “needn’t bother with the deeper stuff” when I went to ask questions of some men more knowledgeable than I on a particular topic. What crock!
But I would agree that the prevailing attitude I see in church is an anti-theology one.
13. Armen
March 5, 2007
7:20 PM
Excellent post!
Funny - on another blog some of us have mentioned this issue as a certain church has this in their ‘about’ page
“No long boring sermons filled with terminology you don’t understand, just messages that relate to real issues in your life!”
A horrendous testimony in my opinion, showing their desire for shallow Christianity.
But let’s get to the issue here, and that is, anyone who doesn’t have ANY desire to understand theology isn’t saved.
Why? Theology means “the knowledge of God” and if people don’t have a desire to have a knowledge of God then they’re still in darkness. Even my mum, who has a hard time learning, loves to hear deeper truths - even if she doesn’t understand them the first time.
One time I was taking a youth Bible Study and I spoke about ‘Limited Atonement’. During it, I noticed some looking a little lost, so I said to them, “Don’t worry if you don’t understand this all today. You’ll get a little bit, and then the next time you hear someone mention it you’ll get a little more, and the next time, and so on…”
The following week there was a Bible conference on, and one night the preacher mentioned the topic. After the service, a few of the young ladies came up to me and said, “Hey! He was preaching that same thing you were speaking about.”
The lack of desire for theology is an indication of the chaff in the church. Ok, so they don’t have to memorise the ‘terms’ (Pneumatology, Anthropomorphism, etc) but they should strive at some point (sooner rather than later) to understand what they teach.
The Cutting Truth-
Unlike the agreement you have received from most people about your observations (which I respect), my observations would be different. Categories of people are:
i) Those that are saved, love God and are seeking to go on with him, will and do have a desire for theology.
ii) Those that are saved, but are stuck in a rut with no spiritual progression (in other words, ‘backsliden’), and rarely want to learn something new. They don’t want to tax their brain when they come to church so they don’t want to hear theology.
iii) Those that are not saved at all. Theology (in general) does not interest them at all. If it does, they are likely to be an apologist for some other belief system, or an unconverted biblical ‘scholar’.
Anyone who is into theology, but has not got a passion for souls, is stuck somewhere between the first and second group.
Comments 2 and 3 (Josh and Carrisa), are as good as the post itself. Excellent observations.
I do you remind you however, this is all my opinion and I respect that not everyone may agree.
God bless!
14. Craig
March 5, 2007
7:33 PM
While I understand and agree with your basic assumptions about an educated laity, I am afraid that the issue is even deeper than you suggest. I am coming to believe that it is the pastors who don’t know what they believe and therefore could not teach theology, even if they wanted to do so.
My experience, and it may not tranfer outside my own church, but I think it does, is that the congregation is restless, uneasy and looking for answers. It is the pastors who are resistant to deeper teaching because they have never experienced it, don’t know what they don’t know, and honestly believe they are delivering what is needed. They are continually dumbing down their teaching, because they don’t see response from the congregation and mistakenly believe that it is from a lack of understanding, rather than a lack of Jesus and the majesty and sovereignty of God.
I totally disagree that nobody is interested in theology. Followers of Christ who are being led by the Spirit naturally desire the deep things of the Lord. Understanding is a function of the Spirit moving in a believers life. Many times it is new believers who want theology and are receptive. It is only after we have innoculated them with partial truth that they become resistant.
And yes, I am a member of the laity.
15. Jabbok
March 5, 2007
8:26 PM
I remember when I first read “By His Grace, For His Glory” and thought it was the most wonderful thing I had ever read. I carried it with me one day when I was having lunch with another pastor because I was excited about the truths I had read and I wanted to share them with him.
He read the front and back covers and then tossed the book onto the table. These were his exact words: “My people don’t give a hoot about this stuff, they just want to know how to hack it on Monday.”
This man cheated on his wife a few years ago, while pastoring a church. He is now divorced, alone and selling used cars.
Our pastor is, and has been, preaching through Romans. We are now in chapter 16. This past Sunday he told us that he was looking forward to next week when we he would preach from verse 17.
“I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them.”
He gave us a taste of what he has to say. Most of it dealt with divisions based upon personality and points of view, nothing was ever mentioned about “Doctrine” I’ve never heard him mention anything concerning doctrine.
I once read that the early settlers to America brought three books with them: (1) A KJV Bible. (2) A copy of Pilgrim’s Progress and (3) A copy of Calvin’s Institutes. I wonder how those poor, uneducated, rural farmers hacked it on Monday?
16. SteveE
March 5, 2007
10:04 PM
It would be foolish of us to assume that a particular level of scholarly delivery of a sermon was going to be, in any fashion, an indication of anything as regards what maturity level a congregation might be.
Especially since, no matter what level you choose to preach on, you are going to be missing large portions of any congregation. A group comprised from every facet; from newly reborn to elder could have no other possibility.
I would say that is why God placed the emphasis of our growth and maturity squarely on our, individual, shoulders. We can learn a lot, from a lot of sources, but only if we have the desire to grow and imporve; only if we have the love for God that we should. Shepherds and Ministers may lead, and show us the way, but the individual sheep must face God alone.
17. Mark Tubbs
March 5, 2007
11:10 PM
Armen (Post # 13),
Re your comments to Cutting Truth - you took the words out of my mouth (or should I say the keys off of my keyboard?), specifically point (i). Praise God that it is not my experience of the church I attend, and God grant that more Christians seek to grow in the love of Him.
18. erik raymond
March 6, 2007
2:55 AM
Tim,
Thanks for the post. Our senior pastor recently commented during a series on justification that, “christians need to grow up, it is time to learn some big words and get the thumbs our of our mouths” amen.
see you at the Shepherds’ Conference
19. Travis Seitler
March 6, 2007
7:48 AM
Tim, you’ve got me thinking again! Particularly related to part of the Hebrews passage you quoted:
“For though by this time you ought to be teachers”
Teachers? Could that be the problem? What if it was rare for a pastor to be seminary-trained? What if discipleship under your pastor(s) was the path you took to become a pastor yourself? Perhaps in such a situation the pastors would be more eager to feed their flocks some meat.
Perhaps when we delegate the responsibility to train the next generation of leaders, we’re far more likely to not bother training them at all.
20. Josh
March 6, 2007
9:42 AM
I think you’ve got something with that delegation thing. It’s much too easy to ‘hire that done’.
Josh
“…the word of God is not bound.”
—2 Timothy 2:9
21. Phil
March 6, 2007
10:31 AM
I’m late to the conversation, but it’s a good one.
What if by education we didn’t mean indepth study of systematics, the creeds, or any of the other fields of study which normally come to mind when someone says “theology.” What if by education we simply meant that the “laity” needed to be educated in the Word?
What if the church invested time, resources, and staff in a process of teaching the congregation how to read and understand the bible for themselves? What if pastors walked their people through the processes of doing a basic bible study? What if leadership participated in guided discussions of OT or NT narratives, and dialoged with their people about questions raised and potential answers and applications found in the text?
What if, instead of treating the bible as something which can only be used if one has a good concordance handy, the leadership “educated” the “laity” about the basic historical contexts and peoples of the biblical text, and then assisted the people in learning how to bridge the ancient context with our more modern context?
Can you imagine walking into a class on, say, Charles Dickens, and for a whole year doing nothing but hearing the teacher talk about how to have a more successful life, during which talks he/she quoted a sentence or two at random from one of Dickens’ books — never even trying to show why the quoted passages were even related to one another? At the end of the class, would one know or understand anything of lasting value about Dickens, his time, the issues which concerned him, or the body of literature for which he is famed?
If our experience of such a class on Dickens would clearly be a failure, why do we expect that applying the same (failed) educational practices within a church context would be a success?
22. Alive2Christ
March 6, 2007
10:50 AM
It would be an interesting study to see how much influence shallow youth ministries have on this subject.
Recently, when discussing some current unbiblical church trends and how they are infiltrating youth ministry, a local youth pastor (who can’t wait to become a Sr. pastor mind you) once remarked, “Well, I don’t really know where I stand on all that stuff, I’m not a theologian.” Thankfully, a passionate lover of theology stuck his bony finger in the young man’s face and sternly said, “Yes, you are a theologian! You are a pastor of God’s sheep and you better know what you believe about God!”
My fear is that many a youth ministry (led by shallow youth pastors) fosters a distain or ignorance for theology. Then, those youth pastors become Sr pastors in 5-10 years and the trend simply continues.
All I can say is, “Thank God for seminary-trained youth pastors or youth pastors who love theology.” May we not be guilty of just throwing whomever is available at our youth to shepherd them with gizmos and trinkets!
23. Phil
March 6, 2007
11:11 AM
I appreciate your sentiments, Alive2Christ, but having seen a number of “bony fingers” being shook at people, sometimes myself, I’d have to say as a loving correction/exhortation the practice is rarely effective.
Perhaps the youth pastor doesn’t want to be seen as a theologian because he’s never known a “theologian” or “lover of theology” in the church who had the slightest bit of success (and often little interest) in articulating how that theology actually matters in the life and worship of the Christ-follower.
Now, I’m not saying that sound theology doesn’t matter; I think it does. In most cases, however, the theologians write their tomes, and the pastors struggle mightily to work with the day-to-day lives and problems of God’s people, and never the twain should meet. It seems to me that both ought to be working harder to show how theology informs and deepens our spiritual lives.
All of which comes back to what I think the problem is. The problem is that a whole lot of people are interested in transmitting information of one kind or another, but it seems like very few are actually interested in whether or not true education is being accomplished.
Producing a body of knowledge, be it in written, aural, or visual form is not the same thing as educating. And simply mastering, intellectually, a body of academic knowledge is not the same thing as growing in Christ.
24. wfseube
March 6, 2007
11:28 PM
My goodness, I can’t remember a blogpost that has generated such a rich set of comments!
One of the oddest things I’ve read on this subject came from one of the kings of the Emerging Church, Dan Kimball. He wrote about this in his book titled (what else) “The Emerging Church” and talked about how younger people (believers) really do have a hunger for theological topics, but they are seldom provided with the “meat” that they seek. He pointed out that when he preached on topics that involved some theological concepts and terminology that those sermons were the ones that generated the most interest in follow-up. (I have to qualify my first sentence of this paragraph - I say that it’s “odd” because the stereotype of the EC folks says that group would shy away from such things. I think Kimball is different in this sense, from what I’ve seen)
I have to wonder if it’s the pastors that are at fault and not the “laity” - many evangelical pastors have bought into the Rick Warren/Bill Hybels preacher-tainment theory that milk and fun (“bread and circuses”) is all that the congregations want. I personally think that’s wrong, and the problem is more of a lack of ability by pastors to teach “theology” in a way that is understandable. I suspect that most who try to teach “theology” teach it the same way they learned at seminary, rather than following the cardinal rule of presenting/preaching - “know your audience.” Don’t preach in a way that assumes a degree in Biblical Studies, etc. Teach the concepts, use the Word, but do it in a way that can be understood by a non-theologian.
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bill
25. Dave
March 7, 2007
3:38 PM
Speaking as one of the laity and also a Sunday School teacher, I thoroughly enjoy participating in theological discussions and enjoy teaching the crucial doctrines of scripture and the church.
Here is where I feel we have gone astray in the some local churches:
Pastors, in general, seem to has strayed from what I chose to call “being a Pastor” (and probably more importantly and accurately a Shepherd for the flock) and have intentionally gravitated towards this job title of “Pastor/Teacher”.
Though there is nothing inherently wrong with this (and one could easily argue from scripture that Paul used similar words), it gets confusing when sermons becomes teaching lectures on theology and and tend to become doctrinal disortations. Sunday participants are “worshippers”, not necessarily students.
I think the laity would better be served, if a pastor would more carefully consider their audience and carefully pray about what those people who attend really need on any given Sunday morning. They need to be called to worship, given encouragement, and need to hear the Word of God in a manner that meets them where they are and equip them (the saints) to live a Christian life the rest of the week.
This is not to say that doctrine and theological teachings do not have their place in the life of the church. A pastor must be deeply involved in a teaching ministry and especially in teaching other men, so that they then can lead stong and effective bible studies and teach the Word of God from a clear and correct doctrinal position.
Should more pastors back off trying to teach on Sunday morning (through a sermon format), possibly spend less hours trying to teach/explain Greek and Hebrew to a congregation in a 40 minute sermon, (only covering a few short verses in the process), I feel that the “laity” would be better served. A side result (by-product) might be additional time left in the week for a pastor to actually get out of the office, away from his computer, and out in the “real world” to meet with members of his flock where they live and work.
In the end, theology and teaching on church doctines cannot and should not be ever be abandoned, but they also should not be presented in such a way that listeners become “uninterested” Sunday morning attenders. The Christian mind is a terrible thing to waste and sadly, some pastors may be contributing to this by their insensitivity to what the “sheep” need for food.
Dave
26. Craig Barnett
March 8, 2007
4:02 PM
Good post Tim. I fully agree that all Christians need to be better educated in “theology” and doctrine. As was said in #13, every Christian “does theology” because theology is the knowledge of, or study of, God. Every Christian has some knowledge of God, the question is, how accurate is that knowledge? We have to study to gain accurate knowledge - partly because we have to overcome cultural and linguistic barriers to an accurate understanding of Biblical teaching.
Make no mistake, theology drives practice. An example: If you believe that salvation is purely by God’s choice, not by man’s choice, then your evangelism will generally consist of proclaiming the Gospel, but leaving the outcome of the message up to God. If you believe that salvaion is a result of a person’s choice to respond to God’s invitation, then you will do whatever is necessary to make that choice attractive - more attractive than the opposing choices in the world. You can see where each of those paths might lead. The trajectory, though, was started by the person’s theology.
So, bottom line: everyone has a theology - the only difference is how educated and thought-out it is. And, that theology has implications for their day-to-day behavior and conduct.
27. Bill Burns
March 10, 2007
12:25 AM
First off, Tim, excellent post! There are lots of good, thoughtful comments above. Just a couple interactions with a couple three.
Re: Cutting Truth’s comments - While I’d concede there are those two types in the church (i.e. folks who have a quirky, almost hobby…or hobby horse-ish interest, sort of akin to stamp collectors, and WWII buffs, or those cem…er Seminary-trained bloviators who keep a sort of academic stiff arm out to all comers, I would simply say, like another commenter points out, that there are plenty of others, folks who see the value of a well-considered theology, for themselves in their own walks with God and for the larger Church.
Like Jane points out above, we relate to God, like we do to our spouses, families and the like, on a personal level. In order for healthy relationships, we strive to know the other more fully and more accurately. It’s certainly not an exact science, but theology _is_ the “Queen of the Sciences.”
We derive a great amount of who WE are from who others are to us. Our parents give us both genetic and personality traits that in a sense, define who we turn out to be. We are shaped by others, also; our children, our spouses, our friends and co-workers and neighbors.
Likewise, we derive a huge portion of who WE are, by knowing more about who _God_ is. That’s the value of a well-considered theology. I think Jane’s hit the nail on the head (and in a lot fewer words, too).
Just my .02