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Wednesday September 12, 2007

Christians and Social Media

Making an impact on the world of social media.

On Saturday I had 11,000 unexpected guests drop by. One of my stories got picked up by Reddit and StumbleUpon, two of the big social media sites, and it ended up on the front page of both sites concurrently. This caused about 11,000 people to drop by my blog in a matter of hours (on a Saturday, no less, when traffic to these sites is probably far less than it is during the week). I was out and about and busy for most of the day so didn’t really notice much happening, but a quick check of my statistics monitoring later in the day showed that about 1,500 to 2,000 people per hour were dropping by while the stories remained on the front pages. This is the first time one of my articles has been picked up by these sites. It was far less thrilling than I might have imagined, especially because it was just a silly story I wrote a couple of years ago that offered nothing at all profound.

I guess there is no real way of knowing if the people who poured in to read the article that ended up on these sites actually stuck around to become regular readers. I’m guessing none of them did, or certainly not many (though if you are the exception I’d be interested to know it). These social media sites have an amazing ability to drive traffic, but I’m not sure how adept they are at driving long-term visitors, especially to what is rather a niche blog like this one. I suspect that most people visit these sites to get a quick entertainment fix and are not looking for any kind of long-term commitment!

It got me to thinking, though, about how Christians might take advantage of social media. After all, it seems that if a story ends up on the front page of Digg or StumbleUpon or Reddit, people click and read. It is no doubt a safe assumption that the vast majority of people using these sites are completely disinterested in anything even resembling the gospel. Most of the stories that show up on Digg (the only one of these sites I tend to keep an eye on) that deal at all with Christianity are firmly opposed to it.

Digg is one of the ways information moves these days. The site has caught on like wildfire and has spawned hundreds of imitators. But none of them have the sheer power of Digg. The term “the Digg effect” refers to the site’s ability to send so many visitors to a particular site that the site’s server can’t handle the capacity and gives up the ghost, at least for a time. A whole mirroring program has been put in place to attempt to make links visible even after Digg has crushed the server. A single story on Digg’s main page can bring in tens of thousands of visitors in a very short time. If a story ends up on Digg and a few of the other sites, well, you do the math.

The concept is simple but brilliant. Wikipedia sums it up well: “News stories and websites are submitted by users, and then promoted to the front page through a user-based ranking system. This differs from the hierarchical editorial system that many other news sites employ.” In other words, individuals post links to stories and the user community gives these stories either a “digg” or a “bury.” The stories with the most Diggs make their way to the front page where they are seen by hundreds of thousands of visitors, producing a veritable flood of traffic. The other social media sites each have their own features, but they work in roughly the same way—users submit stories and they are democratically promoted or demoted.

It is an interesting system. The stories that are promoted are often well worth reading, though certainly they need to be read with discernment and the headlines must be read carefully to ensure the reader knows what he is likely to see when he clicks.

The biggest problem I’ve found is the unbearable stupidity of so many of the comments—and perhaps even the majority of the comments. Digg seems almost incapable of producing good, useful or interesting discussion. This article is a case in point. The article describes the “hero” of the Minneapolis bridge collapse and his efforts to avoid media exposure. His desire for privacy even led him to decline a photo opportunity with the President.

Mr. Hernandez was not available to comment on the offer; Ms. Schwartz said he left town for northern Minnesota late on Friday, overwhelmed by the attention and concerned that his co-workers were being overlooked. He spent the weekend fishing. When President Bush’s staff contacted him to request a photo opportunity, “He was just, like, ‘Nope,’ ” she said.

Here are some of the comments provided by the Digg users:

  • he should have taken him up on the opportunity and called him out on some **** when he was there.
  • He should have gotten an “I’m with stupid ->” t-shirt! :)
  • I’m guessing it was more of a ‘photo opportunity’ for Bush rather than for the kid.
  • Well good for him, coz BUSH IS AN IDIOT
  • lol. Owned. I wouldn’t want to be in a picture with that ******** either.
  • If he was a real man he would have taken the opportunity to speak his mind.

Enlightening, isn’t it? Unfortunately, this kind of discussion is endemic within Digg and other social media sites. And the people who leave such comments are the same kind who are involved in promoting stories to the main page. Needless to say, this means that stupid stories by far outweigh good ones and frivolous content outweighs serious content. A story bashing President Bush is on the fast-track to tens of thousands of visits; one supporting him may as well not even be submitted. Again, some of the stories are certainly interesting and worth reading, but one certainly does need to look for the diamonds in the rough.

And so I wonder if Christians could use Digg and other sites to try to drive people to the occasional good article. Say, for example, that a blogger wrote an article that refuted five of the most common claims of today’s most prominent atheists, or someone wrote an article showing why we can trust the gospels. Or what if there was a ten minutes video clip (with transcript) of John Piper sharing the gospel? Wouldn’t it be an amazing thing if these could be promoted to the front page and be seen by thousands or tens of thousands? It would require a coordinated effort, I’m sure, and might even be destined to fail (is it true that there are a very few people within Digg who have an outrageous amount of influence in demoting certain stories?). It would be nice to be able to promote just a few kernels of wheat amidst all the chaff.

For those who participate in social media, I’d be interested in knowing how such an effort might work. I’d be interested in knowing if it is even feasible. Can sites like Digg be salvaged, or are they destined to primarily only ever promote content that is unbearably light, inconceivably stupid? Can Christians hope to make an impact in the world of social media?

Comments (33) »


1. Kristina
September 12, 2007
10:44 AM

I actually have found a few sites through Stumble! that I’ve bookmarked and visit on a semi-regular basis. I’ve also gotten in the habit of submitting good, interesting, Biblical articles from various places just in case. There’s a lot of garbage out there and if nothing else maybe if someone comes across one of the articles I’ve submitted they pause and consider this radical truth that is the Gospel.

The thing about Stumble (I don’t use Digg) is that you can choose general topics you are interested in. So really, I suppose the only people that are probably going to see the articles are those who have chosen to see that topic. Even if Christians were only ones to see various articles other Christians have submitted it can be used to encourage people who have never otherwise heard of a site.


2. Barrett
September 12, 2007
10:47 AM

Tim,
Interesting thoughts. I too have noticed that it is usually the intellectual atheist (or the unintelligent Christian) that gets the front-page time under the category of religion on some sites. While I think an effort to “digg” a Christian article would be worth it, it would definitely be an exercise in grace for the Christian commenters that would have to respond to the majority of hateful comments that would arise. As I’ve seen that it is difficult enough to keep my cool when responding to fellow Christians, I would be wary to test my character against a hate-filled atheist with an agenda.

As far as it goes, I thank you for your A la carte feature. This is something I’ve come to look forward to regularly, and although I’ve already streamed and read the majority of the Christian articles you bring up, I enjoy the occasional oddity you find, such as the site that hosted the article on breaking open a AA battery for watch batteries. This is interesting stuff that I am thankful you take the time to highlight, as well as the deeper stuff you regularly highlight.


3. Tim Challies
September 12, 2007
11:36 AM

As I think about this further, I wonder if people would be interested in working towards a Digg clone that would be kept distinctly Christian. I’m not entirely sure how we could ensure that it remains Christian in content and attitude, but I’m sure it could be done. Is there something to be said for social media and democratic discovery of resources?


4. Joshua
September 12, 2007
12:07 PM

Mr. Challies, I believe that a social network such as Stumble or Digg would be helpful and could always be closed if it got to a point of too much junk.
I personally would visit it seeing what articles were available and would visit more if I knew that the comments were going to be “clean”. It is difficult to visit google.video or youtube because of the comments that are left.
Thank you for your ministry.


5. Austin Storm
September 12, 2007
1:14 PM

Good observations. I very half-heartedly tried to create a Christian digg (reformednewsonline.com) but didn’t commit the resources to get it off the ground.

Honestly, Christians aren’t much better when it comes to the level of discourse online. One of my friends who is a proponent of the so-called “Federal Vision” (FV) was just told anonymously to do something very obscene to the devil’s bottom.


6. Austin Storm
September 12, 2007
1:20 PM

Aand yes, a small cadre of users exercise inordinate control over which stories make the digg front page. Not to mention users in “digital sweat shops” who digg stories for money. As you have experienced, the exposure a dugg story can bring is pretty incredible.

Honestly, my frustrations with digg are the same as my frustrations with all of “web 2.0”. Namely, democracies don’t work. The “democratization of information” has led to a lot of really inanity and trolling. I’d like to see a digg where certain people are priviledged, and a little bit of heirarchy is introduced back into the process. Something where people can assign “trust” to certain users, and those users’ opinions consequently carry more weight.


7. Tim Challies
September 12, 2007
1:24 PM

I’d like to see a digg where certain people are priviledged, and a little bit of heirarchy is introduced back into the process. Something where people can assign “trust” to certain users, and those users’ opinions consequently carry more weight.

That’s roughly along the lines of what I was thinking. Rather than making the ability to Digg something that is open to anyone, what if there were only a select group of people who did the digging. While that would rob the site of some of the social media features, it would at least ensure that certain stories never saw the light of day.


8. Kevin
September 12, 2007
1:29 PM

Tim,

Count me in. Whatever it takes to get credible christian articles viewed by tens of thousands on a regular basis!


9. Tim Challies
September 12, 2007
1:40 PM

Ask and you shall receive. Desiring God just posted this on their site:

The gospel in 6 minutes.

Let’s muster some ideas and then see if and how we can get this video onto Digg…


10. Russ
September 12, 2007
2:01 PM

It seems to me that there already is a decentralized form of what you are talking about. It is distributed among a loose grouping of blogs including Challies, Justin Taylor, Pyromaniacs, and so on, especially Between Two Worlds; when Justin links, people read.


11. James
September 12, 2007
2:04 PM

I’m game, more than willing to participate in any effort that would drive just a few to view or hear the Gospel message.


12. Tim Challies
September 12, 2007
2:06 PM

It seems to me that there already is a decentralized form of what you are talking about.

Quite right. My thought was simply that we could aggregate these resources and many of the other good ones out there (just because these guys get the traffic doesn’t mean that there isn’t tons of good content elsewhere) and then allow people to pre-filter even the best of this stuff.

The end-user, then, would see only the best stories as filtered by a team of “diggers.”


13. Timmy Brister
September 12, 2007
2:48 PM

Tim,

I really like the idea of putting a collaborative effort in getting the gospel out through the instrumentality of social media. Man it would be great if the blogosphere could all really come “together for the gospel” through our blogs …


14. Kevin
September 12, 2007
2:48 PM

Tim,

Ask and you shall receive. Desiring God just posted this on their site:

The gospel in 6 minutes.

This was submitted to Digg 123 days ago. Now I see what you mean. It has 3 diggs


15. Tim Challies
September 12, 2007
2:56 PM

I’m not sure that we can muster enough people right now to Digg the link effectively, but if you want to give it a shot, you can access it right here.


16. Barrett
September 12, 2007
3:03 PM

Tim,
This conversation reminded me of something my friend Brian wrote about in July. It appears that there is already someone ahead of us working on this very idea. I don’t know much about it, but I don’t know much about digg either. Perhaps some others that are more familiar could help him out with it. The URL is www.castlechurch.org. It really is a great idea, if enough people get behind it.


17. AC
September 12, 2007
5:00 PM

Hey Tim, if you really want this idea to work, why dont you put the link to the John Piper 6 Minute Gospel on the front page? Maybe under “A la Carte” or something? You can leave it up there for a week for a week or two, imploring your readers to digg it!


18. Ben Stevenson
September 12, 2007
6:59 PM

Tim,
The link you give in post 15 - would it not be better for Digg to link to this or this rather than the article about getting content onto Digg?

I think that using blogs, Facebook, Digg, etc can drive traffic to websites. Comparing the viewing figures for Desiring God’s Don’t Waste Your Life videos on Youtube is interesting (here).
Many of those videos have under 200 views, but the Why Did the Bridge Collapse video has over 50,000 views - probably due in part to the many links it got from blogs - that video temporarily got in the top 10 most linked videos on YouTube.


19. Tom Gee
September 12, 2007
7:12 PM

Sounds like a great idea. I’ve dugg (digged?) it.

I put a reference on reddit.com. Just search for “6 minutes”.

Let’s see what we can do with these engines!


20. Trin
September 12, 2007
8:19 PM

That’s roughly along the lines of what I was thinking. Rather than making the ability to Digg something that is open to anyone, what if there were only a select group of people who did the digging.

For instance, editors that controlled what stories made it to the front page? Slashdot works about this way, they take submissions from users and the people running the site, the editors, pick which stories actually get posted. It supports comments and community moderation of those comments.

Anyway, the point is that the code which Slashdot runs on is available via GPL (open source), if you are serious about trying to pursue such a thing and if you don’t want to start from scratch.

Oh, and I Furl’ed the DG link.

Josh Martin


21. Nathan Jewett
September 12, 2007
11:33 PM

That’s roughly along the lines of what I was thinking. Rather than making the ability to Digg something that is open to anyone, what if there were only a select group of people who did the digging. While that would rob the site of some of the social media features, it would at least ensure that certain stories never saw the light of day.

Tim, I believe you have an excellent idea in the works. The key is finding a qualified panel of moderators that can properly discern what articles are worthy of further attention. The advantage to most of these social media sites is the diversity of information presented. To some extent, this diversity would also be fruitful for discussion among the Christian community. However, that’s where you have to keep the tension in perfect balance; just enough diversity to spark thoughtful discussion and true contemplation, but not so much that it compromises the validity of the site as a whole.

Anyway, just my thoughts on the subject. Like many have said, great idea.


22. Ray
September 12, 2007
11:39 PM

This is a good idea. The top digg today is How to hide beer in office? [PICS] Whats better than a refrigerator mod to get some beers in the office. http://digg.com/design/How_to_hide_beer_in_office_PICS

We really could read something better!


23. Dana
September 13, 2007
2:35 AM

Everyone has their own, Tim. We could, too, if we really wanted to. GOPhub.com was started for similar reasons…If you are really interested, you could probably talk to someone over there about how they are keeping it distinctly conservative.

I would guess that in the beginning you might have to have some heavy moderation, but once you have the core members numbering high enough, they would vote items up or down based on the values the community set out.


24. Ben Stevenson
September 13, 2007
6:18 AM

Maybe more Christian blogs should put links at the bottom of blog posts which make it easy to add stories to social media sites like Digg. BBC News recently added buttons at the bottom of each page. Some blogs have them, for example, see the bottom of this blog article which uses addthis.com to make adding links on sites like Digg easy.


25. Ben Stevenson
September 13, 2007
9:33 AM


26. AC
September 13, 2007
9:44 AM

We already have what seems to be a Muslim person responding to the 6 Minute Gospel Post! May God use our efforts to bring glory to Himself by saving this person from his sins!


27. Bill
September 13, 2007
12:18 PM

I am not convinced that digital communication has much over face to face communication when it comes to truths that touch upon our world-view. Perhaps I’m a bit “old school” in this view. but I do wonder if we as a culture (not to mention as a North-American church) spend far too much time worrying and fussing about technology and the “show” rather than focusing on people and relationships that are costly and imbued with the actions that express love.


28. Ben Stevenson
September 13, 2007
3:44 PM

Bill,
I think we need to make sure we focus on relationships in the “real” world, as well as online. After all, if people respond to the gospel, then hopefully they will be joining a local church - so perhaps in some sense it makes sense to focus our efforts on our own locality and sharing the gospel with people living around us.
However, I do think the internet can be a useful way of communicating. Many people spend lots of time online so the internet is one place we can spread the gospel.


A couple of months ago, Kerry Gilliard (aka Black Calvinist) noticed there were not many explanations of the gospel on sites like YouTube, so put this video online.


29. Kevin
September 13, 2007
4:39 PM

Tim,

Only 28 diggs in 26 hours, not the greatest start. Any ideas?


30. Ann Addison
September 14, 2007
11:17 AM

Well, I’m late reading this post because I’ve been busy on StumbleUpon. : )

I’ve been checking out StumbleUpon and Delicious for a few months now and I find them both to be useful and informative in different ways. I have found Digg very difficult to penetrate with my small furtive efforts.

I find that on StumbleUpon many people are interested in Christianity, but sadly lacking in doctrine. It has been said that the most fertile ground for evangelism in America is the church. I count on people stopping by my SU blog to be people interested in Christianity, but with a wide variety of knowledge, experience and being both regenerate and unregenerate.

Friending is very helpful on most social networks. Friending helps you to filter your content and to push content you deem worthy. We need a good way to find each other on existing social networks in order to make an impact. I think we could use Facebook as a centralized place to form groups such as “Delicious Reformed Christians.” The purpose of these Facebook groups would be to help us find each other in the specified social network (Digg, StumbleUpon, Delicious, etc.) and by that make a greater impact. This also might be a helpful way to feed people into a “branded” new reformed Christian social network.

On my regular blog, I placed links to my StumbleUpon and Delicious pages and that has helped with networking between platforms. I see traffic going both directions even though I rarely promote my own blog because I really use that blog to promote good content elsewhere on the web. lol

We should never neglect face-to-face encounters, but social networking will be very useful for the gospel in coming years.


31. Ben Stevenson
September 16, 2007
9:06 AM

This screenshot of Google Video shows that views of John Piper’s “The Gospel in 6 Minutes” video rose because of this post (on the right of the screen there is graph of views).


32. Kristina
September 16, 2007
9:25 PM

I added DG’s post with John Piper’s Gospel presentation to Stumble. If any of you have Stumble and want to help push this just go to the link.


33. Jeff
October 8, 2008
10:21 AM

I too believe that there needs to be a Christian Alternative to Digg. That is why I created GODSurfer.com

GODSurfer.com has yet to hit critical mass but it is not just another Digg Clone that is using open source software. I built this site from the ground up using ideas from Digg. GODSurfer.com has been around for the last 2 years.

I believe that Christians are just starting to come online now and GODSurfer is in a good place for people to really start using the internet to get, and spread the word of God.