Further Thoughts on a Faux Pas
We have had some fun the past couple of days discussing whether or not it is rude for a person to ask himself (or his family) to another person’s house. Opinion is divided but it seems that most people are siding with my wife and suggesting that I was rude to ask myself to a friend’s house. I continue to disagree.
But before I make this conversation serious, I wanted to point to a couple of comments that made me laugh. A commenter named Aaron posted some interesting biblical interpretation.
What we need here is some sound biblical eisegesis on the doctrine of the invitation system. For our text, we shall turn to the book of Hebrews:Hebrews 10:25 - “Let us not give up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but let us encourage one another—and all the more as you see the Day approaching.”
First, we note that we must take care not to give up meeting together. So it is apparent that meeting together is good and should be continued. And how should we meet? “all the more.” If the onus of invitational responsibility lies always on the hosting party it is unlikely that meetings will increase all the more. Tim is being faithful to this passage by increasing the “meetings together” twofold by both inviting others over and inviting himself over to the abodes of others. If we all followed such a practice, think how much we could increase our meetings together! And we must not forget to encourage one another. This could mean that we should encourage others to have us over to their place. So I think this system of inviting oneself is not only biblical, but inevitable as we see the day approaching!
I appreciate Aaron’s eisegesis and feel that he builds a strong case, though one that does brutal violence to sound, accepted hermeneutical standards. Of course in this day and age, such eisegesis is accepted and even encouraged. So kudos to Aaron for his eisegetical masterpiece.
Another poster, Andrew, provided the following challenge: “If you can write a valid deductive syllogism from Scriptural assertions/deductions that shows that inviting oneself to someone else’s house is never rude, then she’s [Aileen’s] wrong.” He then said, “There may be a case where Jesus invited himself to someone’s house, perhaps Matthew or Peter’s mother-in-law?” And, of course, Andrew is right. Let’s turn to the nineteenth chapter of Luke.
He entered Jericho and was passing through. And there was a man named Zacchaeus. He was a chief tax collector and was rich. And he was seeking to see who Jesus was, but on account of the crowd he could not, because he was small of stature. So he ran on ahead and climbed up into a sycamore tree to see him, for he was about to pass that way. And when Jesus came to the place, he looked up and said to him, “Zacchaeus, hurry and come down, for I must stay at your house today.” So he hurried and came down and received him joyfully. And when they saw it, they all grumbled, “He has gone in to be the guest of a man who is a sinner.” And Zacchaeus stood and said to the Lord, “Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor. And if I have defrauded anyone of anything, I restore it fourfold.” And Jesus said to him, “Today salvation has come to this house, since he also is a son of Abraham. For the Son of Man came to seek and to save the lost.”
There are two things that we must note in this passage. First, Zacchaeus did not extend an invitation to Jesus. Rather, Jesus simply stated that he would stay at Zacchaeus’ house that particular day. He apparently did so with no remorse and, in fact, suggested that he must stay. There was force behind his reverse invitation such that Zacchaeus felt compelled to obey. Second, note the reaction of this man. He received Jesus not with regret or reluctance, but with joy. Zacchaeus sets a pattern that we would do well to follow.
It is clear, then, that the Bible demands that we invite ourselves to other people’s houses. It also demands that, when asked, we receive other people with joy.
But in all seriousness, I thought the comment made by my mother was profound (and not just because she is my mother). She said, “I have found in life that most people are not interested in getting to know most people. When somebody does have a particular interest in me, I take that as being of the Lord. If they want to come and visit our home in order to get to know us, I feel I am doing God’s work in graciously serving them.” That is the example that was modelled to me when I was young. You may have noted that two of my sisters commented in the thread and both of them agreed with my perspective. Maryanne, who recently went door-to-door in her newly-built neighborhood canvassing for friends, said, “I think a self-extended invitation is a high compliment…and not rude at all, though perhaps unethical in our closed-door society…In suburbia, unless you force yourself kindly on people, they are going to be swallowed up by the garage every evening, and relationships will not happen. So, have at it.” Susanna offered the following advice: “I would say just make sure to offer to bring something if it is over a meal in order to relieve any pressure they may feel which would most likely be about having to make food.” I should have mentioned that my wife all brings a peacemaking salad whenever we go to someone else’s house. She may also bring her famous plagarized spinach dip with nachos.
So as my mother said, if people are interested in myself or my family enough that they ask if they can come over, I understand it to be an honor and privilege and will happily accept the invitation. After all, most people are not interested in getting to know most people. I love people and am always eager to get to know others. If that has to happen in my house and even at a moment’s notice, so be it!
And so I suppose the reverse is true. If I ask another person if he would like to have myself or my family into his house, I would hope the he would understand that I extend the invitation because of my admiration for him. I ask myself to his house because I am eager to get to know him. I would suggest that it is our culture that has taught us that it is an insult rather than a compliment to receive such an invitation.




Comments (15) »
1. maryanne helms
February 1, 2006
10:45 AM
Tim-
I love that you are covering this topic. It is one that is so important. One of the most important things Christians can do is act hospitably. In your own home, or in someone else’s. Hospitality is so counter-cultural! I have a couple of great books covering the topic of hospitality in its various facets. I’ll find them and either send them or tell you where to find them.
2. Ken Fields
February 1, 2006
10:56 AM
Tim,
I invite myself over to your blog everyday! And from the looks of things, many others are doing the same thing! Maybe it’s about time we all said “thanks for having us!”
3. Dallas Pymm
February 1, 2006
11:21 AM
Hmmm…At first thought I would think it rude to invite yourself over to someone’s home. I am not too sure now seeing the scripture above, but I also think that Jesus telling someone He must stay at their home somehow differs from us inviting ourself over for pie.
Why would you not just invite them to your house is my main question? If it is more appealing and could under no circumstance be considered rude, why would you not take this route?
What do you think everyone?
4. Jackson
February 1, 2006
11:22 AM
“Rude” and “polite” are totally defined by culture, so saying that “our culture tells us it’s rude” is as far as you need to go. Different people may have different ideas about rude, but rude is always a cultural thing, so it doesn’t really help your case to say so. You’re just explaining WHY you’re rude. Hehe.
I do know that with my close friends there’s not really a problem inviting myself over, or inviting them over. So the rudeness is also partially dictated by the relationship you have.
5. Andrew
February 1, 2006
12:22 PM
Dallas Pymm: I believe Jesus invited himself over to Zacchaeus’ house so that he would be the “guest of a sinner”. Jesus is pointing out that: “… the Son of Man came to seek and to save what was lost.”
You might even make the conclusion that this is an illustration of God’s sovereignty in salvation. Jesus doesn’t wait for our ‘invitation’ to save us but goes ahead and saves us without our invitation.
6. Julian
February 1, 2006
1:12 PM
Tim said: “So as my mother said, if people are interested in myself or my family enough that they ask if they can come over, I understand it to be an honor and privilege and will happily accept the invitation.”
Careful, Tim… you run a blog with eight or nine hundred people subscribing by feed burner alone. You could run get yourself into trouble real quick—some of us don’t live that far away from you! :)
7. Brad Williams
February 1, 2006
1:26 PM
Tim,
If I’m ever in your area in Canada. I’m coming over. I’ll bring some food, too. Believe it or not, the Cajun folks who settled this area where I pastor came here because they were kicked out of Canada. Anyway, I’m inviting myself over, and if you are in the bayous of Louisiana, you can come by my house for gumbo, jambalaya, or crawfish, whichever you want.
8. Tim Challies
February 1, 2006
1:29 PM
“some of us don’t live that far away from you!”
I met you on Sunday, didn’t I? :)
“you can come by my house for gumbo, jambalaya, or crawfish, whichever you want.”
Can’t say I’ve ever had crawfish…
9. Dallas Pymm
February 1, 2006
2:30 PM
Andrew. I agree with your explanation. It does seem like going to the sinners house was something Jesus wanted to be known, I would also agree with the more subtle observation of God’s sovereign choice.
Anyone else?
10. Jabbok
February 1, 2006
2:59 PM
You’ve never had a mud-puppy? If you decide to try them, make sure you try Cajun crawdads. They’re spicy.
Chinese food restaurants are serving them now but they usually aren’t as spicy.
I imagine that most of the people who would object to inviting themselves over to someone’s home wouldn’t object as much to just “dropping by”. That seems to be more acceptable. “Hey, I was just in the neighborhood and thought I would drop by.” Perhaps inviting yourself would be a better way to go.
11. diablaazul
February 1, 2006
3:21 PM
Tim -
It’s one thing to have a biblical understanding of hospitality in mind and to seek to extend that sort of hospitality to the people around you. It’s another thing entirely to expect, or demand, that same sort of hospitality from people who are unwilling to extend it. That might be what your wife was getting at. If I know or even suspect that my neighbor would be offended if I invited myself over to his place, then it is rude for me to do so.
For example - my family is Nigerian, and in our culture it’s perfectly acceptable to invite oneself (and family) over to someone else’s house. Actually, it’s routine for people to come over completely unnannounced and stay for several hours! We do this all the time with our Nigerian friends - invite ourselves over, or just stop by for a surprise visit. However, we wouldn’t dream of doing that with our American friends, with the exception of close friends, of course. It’s just one of those “when in Rome” things.
12. Andrew
February 1, 2006
4:36 PM
Tim -
I liked the part where you said, “And, of course, Andrew is right.” I mean, really, it’s so obvious! heh heh
13. Susanna
February 1, 2006
5:17 PM
“However, we wouldn’t dream of doing that with our American friends, with the exception of close friends, of course. It’s just one of those “when in Rome” things.”
I think that I can safely say that Tim is assuming that we know he is talking about inviting himself over to the houses of close friends or people he knows fairly well and not just anyone. Let me know if I’m wrong bro!:-)
14. Josh
February 1, 2006
6:16 PM
Personally, I like it when people invite themselves over to my house. That typically means that they have a fondess for me and my family and God’s family. Anyone like that is always welcome. And if for some reason, I can not accomodate their request then I will take the initiative to set up another date.
So, too, I don’t mind inviting myself over to the homes of my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ. It’s because I want to be with them. Of course, some people don’t like that because their houses are more messy than they’d like to let on. So you learn who does and does not like your self-invitations.
That’s just my thought.
15. nhe
February 2, 2006
9:30 AM
Dallas,
I’m with ya - I think that the Zaccheus passage refers much more to salvation than it does to this form of inverted-hospitality.
I don’t quite get it either. I have friends who I call (or they call me) and we say - let’s play some cards (as couples) and then we’ll decide “my place or yours?” based on what the kids are doing that night and what is most convenient for everyone.
There’s somewhat of a balance to be had I think. There’s 2 steps in the process of organizing the event. First, one of the partys say “hey, let’s get together”. Second, there is a discussion initiated by either party by asking the question - “when and where?”
If someone does the “pop-in” (Seinfeldism) on my family, chances are 50/50 that we won’t be home (the kids are doing a lot of stuff).
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