The value of inviting and pursuing correction.
A couple of days ago I wrote a short article called Her Good or Mine. The purpose of the article was simple: to ask whether I really try to help my wife seek after godliness or whether instead I try to help her seek after my own selfish goals. Do I try to help her become ever more conformed to the image of Christ or do I selfishly try to help her become conformed to some standard I have set. I must not have made this point very clear because a few people used the article to accuse me of being a domineering husband who scolds my wife like a naughty child.
Now I’m certainly not the husband I could be and am not the husband I’d like to be, but I don’t treat my wife like a child (and checked with her to make sure I’m not blinded to my own faults in this way). However, I do take sin seriously not only in my own life but in the life of those who are near to me. I seek to help my wife grow in godliness and sometimes this can only be done by occasional loving confrontation—I confront her with evidence of sin in her life and, if necessary, seek to show her why this is sin and why she should address it. I try hard not to play the role of the Holy Spirit, the one who convicts us of sin, but only the one who makes her aware of a sin and potentially its outworkings and effects on those of us who are closest to her. I agree with those who said that it is the role of God to bring about change. I agree entirely. Yet I also know that God often uses people as the agent of change or, at the very least, to be the one who makes another person aware of a sin.
I’ve often heard C.J. Mahaney share a story about being in a restaurant and spotting a well-dressed businessman heading out of the store. He was wearing a suit and tie and was dressed to make the big sale. But he walked into the business world with a big splotch of cream cheese on the side of his face. C.J. uses this as a metaphor for sin in a person’s life, showing that sometimes a certain sin may be apparent to everyone but the person who commits it. And from there he teaches on the need for inviting and pursuing correction. It is not enough to desire to be corrected when there is sin in your life. Sometimes you need to deliberately seek correction.
After I read some of the comments about my first article both on this site and on other sites, I spoke to Aileen and said, “You do know that it is always open season on my life, right?” And what I mean by that is that I am always open to her coming to me to confront me with sin. Again, this is not shouting, screaming, accusing, vindictive confrontation, but loving, compassionate, biblical confrontation that seeks to draw the other person closer to Christ. I want to reaffirm to her that if there is sin in my life, she is uniquely placed to see it before anyone else and I want her to address it before anyone else. I would far rather have her address my sin than to head out into life with a big old chunk of cream cheese hanging from my beard. I know that she feels the same. My close friends will attest that I also seek correction from them. They know me well and I want them to make me aware of sin they see in my life. I try not to be only reactive when it comes to sin, but to invite correction. And I don’t think anyone has taught me more about this than Mahaney. In his books and blogs and sermons and sessions at conferences I’ve often been challenged with his understanding of the need and value of this kind of correction. And in my own life I’ve seen its value.
And this is what I was discussing the other day. I was simply suggesting that I have had to be careful when addressing sin in the life of my wife that I am addressing sin from God’s perspective and not from my own—that I am addressing behavior that offends God and not just me.
Let me end with some valuable advice I’ve heard C.J. dispense a few times. Gentlemen: set aside two or three hours when you can be alone with your wife and free from interruption (if you are not married, do the same with a close friend or your pastor and ask questions that will probe deeply into your behavior). Then ask her two very specific questions. Where do I need to grow in serving and leading you? Where do I need to grow in serving and leading the children? And without anger or defensiveness, allow her to speak to you about your sin and about your life. Invite correction, pursue correction, and let the Spirit convict you of sin, knowing that He will provide the power to overcome it.






Comments (17) »
1. Georges
August 9, 2007
11:41 AM
You are right on Tim. It’s unfortunate you where misunderstood by some in the other post.
My wife and I can testify to the importance and joy found in inviting correction one from the other. Like you said, this has nothing to do with disciplining our children. It’s a different subject and one that is well worth pursuing.
The challenge you mentioned concerning our motives in correcting is very important and real. It is a good question to ask ourselves. You’ve done well to bring it up. Thank-you!
2. Steve Burlew
August 9, 2007
12:50 PM
I appreciate your heart, Tim. It’s the same heart that I remember seeing several months ago when you and I bunked together at Twin Lakes Fellowship. I well remember, and even still cherish, those late night talks that we had. Without a doubt, this is the Tim I met then, and have come to know since. Your ending questions are a challenge to me personally, my friend. Our family is soon headed out of town with about 100+ people from our church for a camping weekend. Several hours alone with my wife may not happen in the next few days, but I should be able to at least pose those questions to her for a subsequent discussion. After 22 years, you’d think I’d know the answers, right? Hmmmmmm. Thanks, brother! Keep pressing on!
Steve B.
www.trophiesofhisgrace.blogspot.com
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PS - When can we “go public” about our January idea?
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3. Ken
August 9, 2007
1:10 PM
Tim-
I beleive that you made your point clear if the person that is reading has a base knowledge of the Biblical relationship between husband and wife. Thank you for your encouragement for us to strive to challenge each other (husband and wives) to confrom to the standards that Jesus has set for us and not for the standards that we set for each other.
I appreciate your contributions to a serious dialogue that needs to filter through our churches and our society as a whole!
Blessings!
4. donsands
August 9, 2007
1:31 PM
Very nice post. A mixture of encouragement and admonishment for me.
Difficult for me to sit with my wife for two to three hours. Not that i don’t love her, and love to be with her, I’m just not that mature in that area. Yet.
I keep on believin’, prayin’, and kickin’, by His grace. Keep on blogging, you’re very good at it. God bless.
5. Kristi
August 9, 2007
2:17 PM
I read your previous post and comments, and I appreciate your honesty in touching on these kinds of personal issues. Just last night my husband and I sat with another couple and discussed “When Sinners Say I Do” and the topic of loving reproof / sanctification and intimacy in our marriages. My husband and the other husband are both pastors, and we talked about how sometimes Christians and especially leaders in ministry shy away from using what God is doing in our marriages to vulnerably teach and comfort others along the road. All that to say I do so appreciate reading posts like that one, and you need not worry about man but about pleasing the Lord. He knows your heart even more than Aileen does (I know you know that).
One thing my husband did say last night during our discussion is how he tends to do the opposite, which is neglect to point things out to me. He rarely brings sins to my attention partly because he is so super easy-going and partly because I am already intensely hard on myself spiritually and partly because we are sinning in our laziness. But thank God that his grace in Jesus covers these multitudes, and we can keep growing under His protection and love!
PS - I am using FF because I tried and the comment form is still not being recognized in Safari. You’re probably working on it still, but I thought I’d mention it. Awesome redesign by the way!
6. Kristi
August 9, 2007
2:27 PM
Oh! Now I remembered what I initially wanted comment. Sorry I’m hogging all your whitespace!
My senior pastor and his wife came over last week (He’s wonderful - Buster Brown), and the two of them strongly suggested to us that one of the best things we could do beyond (or perhaps instead) of the 2-3 hour date time / chat time is to take a whole 24 hours to have a “getaway” at least once every 7-8 weeks. We have kids ages 3,2, and 1, and I guess we thought it would just be impossible, but they urged us to make this happen in any way we can so that we can have the benefit of a whole day’s cycle to think, ask questions, goof off, rest, and just be with each other. It’s so simple, but I’m thinking this is going to help us tremendously to see clearer, talk more, and be refreshed amidst the busyness of daily life and growth in our walks together.
I think God blesses our efforts to love our spouses with a gracious, thoughtful, and intentional love.
7. Tim
August 9, 2007
11:09 PM
I understand the point you’re making. I’ve heard messages like those you refer to from C.J. for many years. I’m not quite persuaded that this is an action that we are called to.
Certainly we are called upon to confess our faults one to another but I’m not aware of Scripture that tells us to scrutinize one another or place ourselves before others for their scrutinizing.
Who are we to judge another man’s servant?
I would welcome any Scripture to support this idea.
8. Jason Ruzek
August 10, 2007
12:17 AM
Thanks for continuing with this, Tim,
The most obvious passage for me in addressing the fact that I must want to be corrected and be prepared to graciously correct is 2 Timothy 3:16-7. Scripture isn’t sufficient to rebuke, correct, teach and train in righteousness if we are not to be rebuking, correcting, training, teaching or being rebuked, corrected, trained or taught. At least two of these, and possibly all of them are the very actions of others that have bugged me, and bug other people, at points when we all need it the most.
I also am turning Proverbs 27:17 over in my head. It seems as though the sharpening is presented as desirable, but in following the analogy, getting dull spots on our souls ground down to a point hurts a lot. And that is another person doing that to us for our own good.
Is that eisegetical or not? It seems not, in light of the 2 Timothy passage. Any opinions?
But don’t you judge me!
Jason
9. Don Fields
August 10, 2007
8:52 AM
I’ve thoroughly enjoyed both articles on this topic. You are right on point! In our desire to love our wives as Christ loved the church there is a sanctifying ministry that we are to have in her life (Eph. 5:25-27). Your previous article pointed out a very important point that we are to confront sin from God’s perspective, not ours, and for His glory, not our happiness. Some people must have completely missed your point.
But this sanctifying ministry isn’t for husbands alone. It is for all of us, wives especially (Gal. 6:1-3). Thanks again and keep up the good work!
10. Sarah K
August 10, 2007
5:39 PM
Tim (comment 7):
I think the question you are asking is in itself a sort of example of the principle being discussed: you have your position, but you are humbly asking for input from others. That is a great example!
As someone who was rather resistant to this teaching when I first heard it (and who still struggles to be humble and reap the full benefit from it being practiced!) I’d just like to share a few scriptures that have helped me.
1 John 1:7: But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin. —This verse directly links our fellowship with one another to our walking in the light before one another, which I believe means humbly sharing our lives with others to benefit fromt heir biblical input.
Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it? — If I rely on my own discernment to identify my sins, I will miss a whole lot! Yes, God’s spirit can and does convict me, but sometimes the tool he uses is loving correction from my husband or a godly friend. It can be very easy for this sinner to ignore the still, small voice of the Spirit, but it is harder to ignore the audible voice of a fellow believer!
Galatians 6:1-2 Brothers, if anyone is caught in any transgression, you who are spiritual should restore him in a spirit of gentleness. Keep watch on yourself, lest you too be tempted. Bear one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ. — I think that if believers wait to “restore” a brother or sister until he or she is in flagrant, obvious sin (adultery, etc) they have probably missed many opportunities along the way to lovingly ask questions about heart attitudes that may have been demonstrated in less obvious ways (marital discord, anger, bitter words, etc.) Once when a friend overheard me and my husband speaking a little snippily to each other, she loved me enough to graciously ask me about it. She didn’t assume she knew what was going on—she just asked, and my husband and I were so grateful. It enabled us to see our situation more clearly, identify a pattern of unkindness that was creating disharmony in our marriage, and seek to address that by God’s grace. Who knows how long that could have gone on, reaping more bad fruit, without my friend lovingly taking a look at my life.
1 Peter 5:5 Clothe yourselves, all of you, with humility toward one another, for “God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble.” — For me, I believe that my reluctance to ask others for input in my life, or to receive input from them, stems from nothing more than pride: I don’t want other people to see sin in my life. I want to take care of it all by myself, between me and God, and really the reason for that is that people will then think better of me. But I have found that when I ask for input, or when input is given (with grace, of course) I receive so much more help, insight, and accountability as I pursue change. Perhaps it would be helpful to consider why you find yourself resisting the idea of this type of accountability.
Just a thought!
I don’t see this process so much as a matter of scrutiny, but as a matter of taking advantage of the clearer, more objective perspective that others have on my life. Because I am a sinner, with a deceitful heart, it is a lot harder for me to see my sin than to see sin in my husband—and the same goes for him. We need each other’s help to see our own hearts, by God’s grace. I believe this is how the Bible teaches that the body of Christ is supposed to work—in various ways through friendships and marriages and small groups and accountability relationships.
There are other verses but these are the ones that came to mind. Blessings as you seek God’s truth in this area!
Sarah K
11. Tim
August 11, 2007
12:19 AM
Thank you Sarah for taking the time to explain your understanding of this issue.
I clearly remember when this teaching became prominent among churches. It wasn’t long after the fall of Jim and Tammy Baker. The key word of the day was: ACCOUNTABILITY. Soon everyone began organizing and re-organizing to make certain that there were boards of over-seers and others who served as a cushion. Men who had ministries that were very much in the public eye began explaining how their organization was structured to prevent the type of fraud and dishonesty that was spread across the television screen. Men like Billy Graham, Chuck Swindoll, Adrian Rogers and a host of others began detailing how their ministries were governed.
It wasn’t long after this that the ACCOUNTABILITY message was broadened to include every facet of our lives. Bill Gothard got on board, Tim and Beverly Lahaye, James Dobson and every other want-to-be Seminar Minister began spouting plans and programs of ACCOUNTABILITY. Books were written, money was made and everyone got on board. This type of message and ministry is as common place today as Dispensationalism was in the 70’s.
My heart is deceitful and desperately wicked. The next question in that verse says: “Who can know it?” The obvious answer is, I can’t know it, my wife can’t know it, my children can’t know it, my pastor can’t know it nor any of my friends and acquaintances. Only God knows our hearts.
I’ll be married for 31 years in September and I don’t recall ever having a conversation with my wife about sin in her life nor has she ever approached me about sin in my life. This does not mean that we view ourselves as being sinless or see each other as sinless. We don’t believe it is our duty to bind one another’s conscience to our own understanding of righteousness and Christian behavior. This would be a bit presumptuous.
Having said all of that, I’ll close by saying that I don’t believe this practice is completely off course. There is always room for instruction and correction. BUT, there is a line…
12. Jason Ruzek
August 11, 2007
11:04 AM
Tim,
Have you ever rebuked anybody or has someone else rebuked you been thankful for it?
I am pleased for the condition of your marriage, and you ability to help in the growth of your family by actions and not by words is very commendable. However, there are many, many biblical examples of people with deceitful hearts correcting others with deceitful hearts.
This works for Mr. Challies, myself, and others who have posted. Why are you seeing fit to rebuke us on what you see as the presumptuousness of our actions in applying the direction and anectodal examples of the Bible (in using our admittedly deceitful hearts) using nothing other than the guidance of your experiences and your own heart?
I am merely saying that it is Biblical to do so, and if one does not do so that most certainly does not make them un-Christian, but to rebuke biblical action is not a great idea.
Looking for (and occasionally finding and recoiling from) “the line”,
Jason
13. Tim
August 11, 2007
4:22 PM
Hey Jason,
I’m sorry you feel that what I’ve written is a rebuke. I wouldn’t classify it as such because I’ve not identified or made reference to any sin or sinful behavior on the part of anyone who has written here.
I understood the point of the original article to be about confronting specific sin in our spouses life. It wasn’t made clear what sin was being referred to. My wife grew up in a home where playing cards was considered a sin. So, who would need to be rebuked? Me for playing cards or her for holding to a belief that isn’t supported in Scripture? There’s the line. We can’t always presume that we know what is best or right.
14. gary
August 11, 2007
4:49 PM
I read both your posts on this Tim, and was encouraged by the first, and challenged by much of it and again encouraged by this one. Though i’m confused as to how you were taken up wrong in the first place. Thanks for these posts bro’
15. Jason Ruzek
August 11, 2007
5:21 PM
Tim,
Thanks for that. It honestly wasn’t so much that I mind a rebuke, Lord knows I need ‘em. My concern was something else.
But enough of that.
The issue with legalism or subjective areas in which the Spirit is working in a person is a huge concern in this matter and, from what you have written, it seems that your take on this is magna-appropriate for your own situation. If your wife grew up in a dontdrinkdontchewdontgowithgirlsthatdo environment, and she has a good relationship with the Lord currently then - and I am just theorizing based on others I have known from similar backgrounds - she may have an already hyper-sensitive approach to this area and, again similarlly to a friend of mine, sometimes you may have to help her out of her self-condemnatory tree, as opposed to fine-tuning biblical aspects of her life.
My wife and I both grew up in Catholic churches where licentiousness ruled, just confess it away and yer good as new! So both she and I need to have certain Biblical principles pointed out to us occasionally. Often, someone has presented something from the Bible to me, and I would tell them tot get lost. But the word as delivered by the saints worked on me, and I would much later come around.
So my perspective in this matter seems as perspectival as yours.
Blessings to you and your wife and family,
Jason
16. donsands
August 11, 2007
5:33 PM
” The obvious answer is, I can’t know it, my wife can’t know it, “
There’s not an across the board not knowing what’s in my heart, as well as knowing someone else’s heart.
There will always be a certain mystery to it.
But I don’t think it’s as black and white as some may think.
I know what I’m thinking, and why, many times. And my wife, after 34 years knows my heart a little as well. Not completely, but we can know a heart.
Out of the heart proceed good and bad. The fruit of the heart is seen.
Where the heart is focused is it’s treasure.
And again I would say there’s room for grace here as well.
Just a few thoughts I had, for what there worth.
17. jennifer
August 13, 2007
3:25 PM
Hi Tim!
I just wanted to say that I read the first post (I’m a bit behind in reading posts…), and I immediately ‘flagged’ it in my inbox as something I thought my husband and I could discuss. I thought it was well said! I was sorry to see that you had to clarify yourself in a second post, but I know that both articles will serve my husband & I well! So… thanks!!!
-Jennifer :-)
your friend from Na