The Benefits of the Catechisms
Catechisms were an important part of my life when I was a child. I grew up in a Reformed tradition that placed great value in the Catechisms. Some would argue they placed too great an emphasis on catechetical instruction. From a young age I was able to recite large portions of the Heidelberg Catechism and eventually learned every one of the questions and answers. Many of them are still fresh in my mind while others reside in the deeper recesses, able to be drawn out with just a little bit of coaxing. Every Tuesday evening, from the time I was in sixth or seventh grade to the time I was ready to make a public profession of my faith, I sat in the church and received instruction from a pastor or elder. We went through the Catechism several times in that span, learning the framework of Reformed, biblical theology. Sunday evening sermons at church were also usually dedicated to the exposition of Scripture drawn from a particular question and answer. On many Sunday afternoons my father would gather us around him in the living room and we would be taught from the Shorter Catechism, memorizing many of those questions and answers. Truly as a child I was soaked in Scripture and sound Reformation theology.
I despised Catechism classes and almost always dreaded Sunday afternoon instruction with my father. Tuesdays became an occasion to see which of us in the class could memorize the least, so that when it came time to recite our answers, we would either read them from a hidden crib sheet or have them whispered to us from a friend while avoiding the glare of the instructor. Many Sunday afternoons my parents lamented how little we cared about what was so precious to them. But despite my best efforts I did learn the Catechisms and I did learn a great deal of theology. When I reflect on all that I might have learned in those occasions I am sorry and ashamed that I did not learn more. But when I reflect on all that I did learn, I am profoundly grateful that my parents, pastors and elders were far wiser than I was and persisted in this instruction. I am convinced that this instruction has played a very important role in my life and formed a theological foundation that is still firm today.
There is no substitute for investing in children when they are still young. The catechisms that have survived to this day and have stood the test of time are worth knowing. They are worth teaching to our children. They are worth teaching to ourselves.
Later in I began to examine Christianity outside of the Reformed fold. I was faced with terms and theology that were foreign to me. I had never heard of this thing called the rapture and burst out laughing the first time someone explained it to me, convinced that he was pulling my leg! One of my greatest surprises, and one I found most disconcerting, was the constant discussion in mainstream Protestantism about knowing God’s will and receiving guidance from Him. Before leaving Reformed circles I had never heard anyone claim to hear from God nor had I really seen people wrestle with issues of God’s guidance. These were foreign concepts to me.
It took me some time to figure out why this was not a struggle for me. I did not wrestle with issues of God’s guidance because I had been taught firm principles from my years of catechetical instruction. Read these words by Sinclair Ferguson (taken from his book Faithful God):
Christians in an earlier generation rarely thought of writing books on guidance. There is a reason for that (just as there is a reason why so many of us today are drawn to books that will tell us how to find God’s will). Our forefathers in the faith were catechised, and they taught catechisms to their children. Often as much as half of the catechism would be devoted to an exposition of the answers to questions like the following: Question: Where do we find God’s will? Answer: In the Scriptures. Question: Where in particular in the Scriptures? Answer: In the Commandments that God has given to us.Why were these questions and answers so important? Because these Christians understood that God’s law provides basic guidelines that cover the whole of life. Indeed, in the vast majority of instances, the answer to the question ‘What does God want me to do?’ will be found by answering the question: ‘How does the law of God apply to this situation? What does the Lord require of me here in his word?’
I think Ferguson is exactly right. I have seen Christians wrestle and fight almost to the death with issues of guidance. More often than not, they finally take refuge in some type of circumstance or irrelevant detail that provides only brief comfort or assurance. I know of a person who made a major, critical decision in life based upon tossing a Bible in the air three times and randomly placing his finger upon a verse on the page which the Bible had fallen open to. I know of people who have made decisions based on hearing a particular person on the radio at a particular time or based on stirrings, feelings and emotions.
The catechisms, based as they are on firm Scriptural principles, do not allow for any of this. They are firm: we find God’s will in the Scriptures, particularly in the commandments. We listen and obey. God gives us great freedom to know and do His will within the situations in which He has placed us and by using the gifts and talents with which He has blessed us. Making decisions should not be difficult. Hearing the voice of God and receiving guidance from Him is as simple as opening the Scriptures.
This is just one of many examples in which I know that years of catechetical instruction have been a blessing to me and have helped me avoid the trappings of poor theology. I am grateful, now and always, that my father and theological forefathers were faithful in teaching and applying Scripture through the catechisms. I hope and pray that I will so bless my children.




Comments (40) »
1. jonathan erdman
April 19, 2006
11:34 AM
I once heard of a silly group of Christians who made a major, historical decision based simply upon the casting of lots!
(See Acts 1:26)
2. Chip
April 19, 2006
11:43 AM
I have been amazed at the ability of my young daughters (8 and 4) to learn and understand the information from the Westminster Shorter Catechism. I reword the questions into sentences they can readily understand but the concepts they really, really get. It has been a wonderful tool and I just can’t imagine trying to educate my children without one.
3. jmark
April 19, 2006
11:47 AM
Jonathan - I think you’ll find they did nothing of the sort. Read the passage. Peter had been studying the word, the people had been praying, through the word and prayer they had narrowed it down to two people and then they drew lots.
And given that Matthias receives no further mention it was hardly a major historical decision!
4. Tom Gee
April 19, 2006
11:56 AM
My wife and I received almost no training at home in spiritual matters. Over the past year, we have become great fans of using the catechism with our kids!
If you have young children (ours are 6 and 8), I highly recommend the book “Training Hearts, Teaching Minds.” It works slowly through the Westminster Shorter Catechism, taking one question every week, accompanied with short, daily discussions to use with your children.
There is great wisdom in that ancient list! I highly recommend it!
5. jonathan erdman
April 19, 2006
11:56 AM
First of all, I think it would be difficult to sustain an argument asserting that being one of the twelve apostles was not of major, historical proportions, regardless of whether Matthias was never mentioned in the Scriptures. These men were major, major leaders in the early church. There was so much turmoil (internally and externally) to deal with that men of great wisdom were necessary if the church were to survive.
So, the apostles used wisdom, prayer and surrounded themselves with the wisdom of the Scriptures, and then narrowed it down to two candidates. Yet for some reason, rather than using the Challies method and just making a decision the disciples used a very “flipant” method of deciding. They literally made a “random” decision. But they trusted that God would guide the “randomness” so that it would be God’s will. I know this does not fit the Challies methodology, but if another believer did something similar I would not criticize them as having “poor theology” or look down on them. If I had this attitude I fear I would be guilty of disregarding passages like Acts 1:26 and not taking into account the whole Word of God. In this situation maybe I would be guilty of “poor theology”!
6. s. zeilenga
April 19, 2006
11:57 AM
Well, I am sad to say I am on the opposite side of remembering things. I remember sitting in catechism classes as a kid on thursday nights and often being bored.
So, needless to say, I don’t remember a single phrase, question, or answer from them. Sigh.
Well, I guess a brief read through them might not hurt. I will have to see if I can locate my book at my parents house.
z.
7. jmark
April 19, 2006
12:15 PM
Jonathan
Its hardly a flippant method if you have a correct theology of guidance
It would have been wrong if they had simply tossed a coin to start with and narrowed it down that way.
Instead they relied on Gods word, on wisdom, and were left with two equally valid choices. What do you do when you have two equally valid choices, both meeting biblical criteria, both wise, and you dont want to show personal favouritism?
You draw lots. Its biblical. But only after you have carried out the other steps.
Tim’s problem is with those who draw the lots first, as their only means of guidance (or some such similar random method).
8. Tim Challies
April 19, 2006
12:18 PM
“Tim’s problem is with those who draw the lots first, as their only means of guidance (or some such similar random method).”
Exactly. And even then I’m not sure that casting lots is still a relevant method of decision making in our day. The Bible gives us no clue to how it works and in no way encourages us to continue to do so. We have a far better tool for making decisions: the complete canon of Scripture.
9. DavidR
April 19, 2006
12:33 PM
On the Jonathan/jmark conversation:
I had always taken the Acts 1:26 passage in the way that Jonathan suggests: that the godly leaders of the early church were using a form of guidance akin to the “Urim and Thummim” of old.
Now I am not so sure. About a year ago, last Whitsunday, I heard a sermon by a wise Bible teacher who held out the possibility that the disciples were getting it wrong, that perhaps they were rushing ahead, that perhaps God had a different idea about who the “twelfth” should be, and that in fact was the apostle Paul. If you think it through (I had to!), there is quite a bit to be said for that view.
It wasn’t pushed dogmatically in the sermon, and I’m not doing so now. I’m offering it for reflection.
On this sort of guidance, see also the (several) comments in Arnold Dallimore’s biography of George Whitfield, at the latters concerns over John Wesley’s following the Moravian practice of drawing lots and looking for guidance from random scriptures. (Got all that?!) It gives one pause, but these two great evangelists inclined differently, and Whitefield grew away from this sort of guidance sooner than Wesley did.
As to the main business, mine was not a catechetical upbringing (or tradition), and I feel the poorer for it. It’s never too late, though.
Meanwhile, I’m also remembering a story that Spurgeon recounts in his “autobiography”: once when sitting in his hotel room in Mentone, he felt compelled to go and sit on the bench outside. He acted on the impression. Soon a woman came and sat down beside him, and a conversation unfolded that answered Spurgeon’s own question: “What am I doing out here!!??” (or words to that effect!).
I suppose there’s guidance, and there’s guidance.
10. jmark
April 19, 2006
12:38 PM
Tim,
I can see a place for lots - I dont believe that God always reveals to us exactly what he wants us to do. Three principles, or layers of filter - what does the bible say? Is this a wise choice (in accordance with biblical wisdom)? And then - Do i have a preference?
God isnt a tight father who only holds out one option to us (of course I understand that he knows the one choice I will make) but I think that Xns get themselves into a bind over decisions where God has given us a measure of freedom. As a father I may hold out three different sweets to my daughter and tell her that she is to pick one. All three are equally good.
The place for lots for me where a person has applied all the biblical criteria, sought to be biblically wise, has no personal preference, or doesnt want to use their personal preference, and they decide to toss a coin, leaving the decision in God’s hands.
Another scenario is where picking one option will take sides - ie a decision in a congregation where both options are biblical and wise, but both sides are in danger of digging their heels in. I would have no problems recommending that they draw lots and trust the Sovereign Lord.
11. DavidR
April 19, 2006
12:44 PM
jmark writes: “…but both sides are in danger of digging their heels in. I would have no problems recommending that they draw lots and trust the Sovereign Lord.”
Sort of like divine compulsory arbitration, then? :)
12. jmark
April 19, 2006
12:48 PM
I personally dont like the teaching that says the apostles got it wrong.
Luke gives no hint that the disciples were wrong despite the fact that Paul is obviously his ‘hero’. Paul doesnt fit the criteria Peter lays down for an apostle Paul later submits himself to eh apostles for inspection.
It seems to be Peter’s reading of scripture that has led him to this point, and that the coming of the Holy Spirit is in some sense only on the whole 12 New Tribes (the apostles).
I think it is speculation based on a view that is uneasy about casting lots, which in turn stems from tendency to underplay to a degree the sovereignty of God.
13. Sam B.
April 19, 2006
12:48 PM
There is a whole side to this discussion that Tim did not mention: the Bible does not always address our specific situation. Should I buy this house? Should I accept the promotion? Should I marry this girl? The Bible does offer principles to guide these decisions, but it does not give us the answers themselves. Oftentimes, after weighing all the options, it turns out that several can be justified biblically. So what do you do then? This is where seeking God’s guidance becomes so helpful. Spending time in prayer and in dialogue with other godly friends is the only way to make these decisions.
In other words, catechism doesn’t answer all the questions. It gives good guidelines, but in the times where several choices are biblically justified, we are forced to seek God’s guidance through the other means he has given us.
14. Sam B.
April 19, 2006
12:51 PM
Wow, four comments in the time it took me to type mine up. Now I sound like I’m repeating JMark. Ha ha.
15. jmark
April 19, 2006
12:52 PM
DavidR
Yup! :)
16. Jabbok
April 19, 2006
12:56 PM
I had never even heard of a catechism until later in my life when my kids were nearly 8 and 11.
I went to Bible college and Seminary and don’t ever recall hearing a discussion or a lecture on catechisms. We spent most of our time discussing the Rapture and how to discern God’s will for your life.
Our family began studying a catechism after I discovered one and read thru it. It was valuable and I think my boys benefited from it.
Good post…
17. Wordlover
April 19, 2006
1:33 PM
Hello Tim,
The question of divine guidance deserves a book-length answer, but let me offer a few thoughts if I may. You seem to have drawn an either-or line, and have opposed the strengths of one side to the distortions of the other. I grew up on the other side of the line, and am now gratefully gorging myself on the solidness of scriptural truth. But I cannot abandon what was real from my past.
Scripture does not, to me, negate personal communication from God. Jesus said, “My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me” (John 10:27). The Spirit He sent us provides companionship and instruction (see John 14:26, I John 2:27). We test our hearing of the Spirit by the word, and we understand the word through the enlightenment of the Spirit.
Your comments center on the question of obedience. In the majority of situations, scripture gives us sufficient wisdom to walk that path, particularly with regard to moral issues. My question is whether obedience is all God desires from us.
Two of the strongest metaphors for our relationship with God are children of a Father and bride of a Husband. In both cases there is a very necessary place for obedience. But if your wife or child obeys you perfectly…and that is all…you would not consider the relationship to be complete. Rather, there is an integral need for communication, communion, connection, that goes beyond actions. Should we expect God to be satisfied with a lesser relationship?
Diane
18. bobS
April 19, 2006
2:02 PM
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19. bobS
April 19, 2006
2:05 PM
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20. Tim Challies
April 19, 2006
2:17 PM
I should point out that this article was about catechisms, not discerning God’s will. IT was not meant to be an exhaustive theology of listening to God or discerning His will.
21. tti
April 19, 2006
2:25 PM
So what’s Tim’s take on the rapture??
22. psimpson
April 19, 2006
2:27 PM
There is also a danger in using circumstances as a means of discerning God’s will. The problem is due to our sinful hearts. I may be more inclined to take negative circumstances as God telling me to stop pursuing a situation if it’s disagreeable to me than if it’s something I want. But I’m glad Hudson Taylor continued to labor against adverse circumstances, rather than to give up. Nearly every great preacher or missionary in history met with opposition or difficult circumstances.
True, we may see God at work in circumstances, as when God opens a door for ministry; Paul mentions in 1 Cor 16:9 that, “a wide door for effective work has opened to me” of which he intended to make use. However, in 2 Cor 2:12-13, he says, “When I came to Troas to preach the gospel of Christ, even though a door was opened for me in the Lord, my spirit was not at rest because I did not find my brother Titus there. So I took leave of them and went on to Macedonia.” Therefore, the best way to interpret circumstances is not to divine from them “good circumstances = proceed; bad circumstances = quit”. Rather, we need the mind of Christ, as the apostle did; we need the wisdom of God as revealed in the Scriptures.
Question: What about burdens? For example, if I have a burden to reach a tribe in Central America, how do I know if that it is a leading from the Lord?
23. psimpson
April 19, 2006
2:34 PM
Sorry, Tim.
We do use the Young Children’s catechism with our children. We do it in the car on the way to school. They actually enjoy it. Then at breakfast one day a week, we usually discuss its meaning and read the Scripture proofs.
I didn’t have the catechism growing up, but wish I had. It’s a great tool for teaching biblical theology to children. Many children’s programs in churches focus on Scripture memory, which is great; however, to neglect the “big picture” of Scripture may leave them see the Scriptures as a set of disjointed, disconnected sayings which you cut and paste as you wish. It’s helpful to supplement Bible memorization by giving them the unfolding “drama of redemption” (to borrow a Michael Hortonism) which the catechism provides.
24. Tim Challies
April 19, 2006
3:50 PM
“So what’s Tim’s take on the rapture??”
To be honest, it hasn’t changed a whole lot. :)
25. Jim Vellenga
April 19, 2006
4:32 PM
Just a comment on the used of lots in Acts 1. In his book Finding The Will of God: A Pagan Notion?, Bruce Waltke points out that after the coming of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost, no where do we find the believers using lots ever again. So while it could have been used before the coming of the Spirit, now believers no longer need to use lots because we are indwelt by the Spirit. The book itself is a helpful read, not long, and I recommend it.
26. Brian Kay
April 19, 2006
5:19 PM
Tim’s points in his essay are well taken, as are Ferguson’s, which he quotes. A great book on Christian guidance which actually comports with all of this is Gary Friesen’s Decision Making and the Will of God. The summary (using my own more Reformed lingo): God’s “decretive will” (that which he will certainly bring to pass) is hidden in his own secret counsels, so don’t knock yourself out trying to “discern” it through various hokey techniques; God’s “preceptive will” (his commands to us) are fully available in Scripture. So, when we face a particular decision, ask whether or not a revealed moral command of God’s preceptive will applies. If not, use your noggin to make a wise choice based on the facts in front of you. That might not sound very supernatural or spiritual, but God is actually honored when you use your brain in such a way rather than trying to make an end-run around the hard work of growing in practical wisdom!
27. Teague
April 19, 2006
7:36 PM
Given the preceding comments, I feel like an ugly duckling in this pond. I have no desire to denigrate catechetical instruction, though I could be construed that way. I think catechetical instruction is very good for children, or for instructing a childish understanding. It is, I think, a vulgar (no prejudice intended) substitute for a study of systematic theology, or for searching out the meaning of scriptures in company with diverse Christians where the interpretive authority of any one of them in particular does not trump that of all the others. Not all are required to be equally conversant in a more comprehensive systematic or historical theology— or even in the scriptures themselves. But I would maintain that there is a difference between the understanding of the Scriptures produced by catechetical instruction and the understanding of the Scriptures necessary to produce a catechetical instruction. I would hope that Christians aspire to the latter.
I would also argue (not here) that catechetical instruction does not serve well in imparting the reasoning and communication skills required to employ scripture in a way that meaningfully serves communication with genuine Christians of other traditional streams, or those holding to ‘unconventional’ interpretations of the scriptures. Do you insist that they all learn your catechism in order to communicate with you? For example, an adult would do well, to strive to be able to communicate with other Christians, say, about their conception of their ‘scriptural’ reasons to believe in a Rapture—apart from derision or the overt imposition of the authority of their own (more formal) catechism.
To be sure, it is a trite observation that the Scriptures were neither given to us in the form of a Socratic dialogue, nor a catechism. Nonetheless, the diverse forms in which the Scriptures were given also serve in properly weighing catechism. Ultimately, I am a little suspicious of any who seem to operate on the presumptive grounds that either 1) the discipline of the intellect is not all that important to Christ in conveying his mind to his people; or 2) that the disciplining the mind is all that is important to Christ in conveying his Spirit to his people (no relevant accusation intended).
28. N. L. White
April 20, 2006
12:09 AM
Teague,
I agree with your take on catechism not being considered full-on meat. However, I believe Challies was merely stating that it is an excellent place to spring from in your further understanding God, His word, and therefore His will.
I enjoyed your post. But I must say that it may have been harder for me to read with comprehension than A.W. Pink. My frontal lobes were still aching the second time through.
29. Janet MacDougall
April 20, 2006
12:59 AM
I love the catechism, and have learned much from the study of both the Westminster and Heidelberg Catechisms.
But it is important to use catechisms are they were originally intended not as ends in themselves but as a systematic introduction into the study of the Bible. If catechism becomes a substitute for scripture, it can be a trap rather than a help.
Occasionally I have run into people who can quote catechetical questions and answers, but are completely baffled when asked to frame the ideas in their own words. Some folk have, unfortunately substituted knowledge of questions and answers for Bible study.
As Christians we need to be immersed in and knowledgeable about the Scriptures themselves, reading and obeying, and meditating on God’s word. A catechism can and should be used to lead us into systematic and careful Bible study, and not as a substitute for knowing the Bible.
Unfortunately, too many graduates of Christian schools do not seem to really know their Bibles. Very sad. This needs to be remedied.
30. Tom Stack
April 20, 2006
8:16 AM
My wife and I likewise are going through “Training Hearts, Teaching Minds” with our 7 and 9 year old, nightly, after dinner. I love that book! The kids enjoy the time together, and enjoy memorizing the questions and answers. And, rest assured, as the catechism Q&A’s are based on the Word, we are also reading with them all the supporting and underlying scriptures.
We have found it to be a great resources and one the kids enjoy and that holds their attention and interest, while pumping them with God’s truths, so when they are older it will not depart from them, but they will have it in their hearts and on their lips!
Tom Doctrine Matters
31. Jodi
April 20, 2006
10:48 AM
I agree strongly with your position on the catechisms! I was taught some of them by my homeschooling mother. Although we were never exactly taught what the reformed faith was (as we were mainstream Baptists in our church going), I know it was greatly because of her teaching that I found the reformed faith so easy to embrace when it came my way. I also know that was the reason I found some of the teachings at the Calvary Chaple I attended after high school so hard to understand: many of them went against some inner, deep understanding which I think came from the catechisms. Now I have a great desire to teach these to my sons while their minds are so capable of memorizing them and storing them for the future help in discerning Biblical truth. A question: do you think it is ever too early to start? My sons are 2.5 and 7 months. Already, my older son is able to memorize the Lord’s Prayer, the Apostles Creed and many of the childrens’ catechisms. I know he is not able to internalize or understand most of what he is repeating, but is it still a good thing to get it in his mind?
32. Tim Challies
April 20, 2006
10:55 AM
”: do you think it is ever too early to start? My sons are 2.5 and 7 months.”
There are children’s catechisms available that are ideally suited to tiny children. You may also want to look for musical versions of some of the catechisms as they can be found and will get the children singing them long before they can say them!
33. David A
April 20, 2006
12:58 PM
Sound theology is not the only thing, but it is everything - because mostly it’s by theology alone- (and not the angels on the head of a pin kind) that will instruct us, and strengthen us in how we should act, and respond, and trust, and pray, and worship, and, and …all in response to what Jesus has done on Calvary.
34. Dallas Pymm
April 20, 2006
1:23 PM
It seems that the many here are recomending the catechisms for children. I have never read any of the catechisms and was wondering if it would be a benefitial to me at 23? Well…that’s not too much older than 7. Do most people here agree with Tim when he says “They are worth teaching to ourselves.”?
35. Tom Stack
April 20, 2006
2:31 PM
D.P.,
Yes, I think it’s worthwhile for you to study them yourself! Here are just 2 resources with which you may wish to begin - both online: Cambridge Presbyterian Church Catechism Notes and Christ Covenant Reformed {PCA}. I reference both of them (especially the first) as supplemental resources in the training of my young ones.
Tom Doctrine Matters
36. Dallas Pymm
April 20, 2006
6:19 PM
Thanks for the resources Tom. I will be sure to check them out.
37. James Hakim
April 21, 2006
7:24 AM
D.P. — at 23, and with most of your mental faculties still in full gear, I would recommend doing the Westminster Shorter Catechism aggressively (a bright young man, such as you probably are, can do it in a week or two) as a warm-up for the Westminster Larger Catechism (the shorter was originally for children and the larger originally for adults). You will find it beneficial not just to your theology but directly to your spiritual vitality. It is so helpful, that if the idea of memorizing it daunts you, then I would suggest at leat adding a reading from it to your daily, personal study—can take less than a minute.
Tim—do you still have an RSS feed for a daily question and answer from the WSC? Was there ever one for the WLC? Could you do these for us and post the links here?
Jodi—Your 7 year old is probably ready for the shorter catechism. My (just-turned) 2 year old and 3 year old do quite well on the “catechism for young children.” If you do 1 question a week, your younger child will be starting the shorter catechism around the age of 6, which is just perfect. But make sure that they are memorizing Scripture too. I don’t know why most translations say “childhood” or “youth” in 2 Tim 3:15, when the word used relates primarily to newborns and even sometimes to unborn children; “infancy”(!) would be a better translation. What a blessing to your dear children to have such a mother who is seeking out these things for them!
Everyone: Dr. Ligon Duncan has posted a fantastic quote on the value of catechism from BB Warfield over at Reformation21.
38. Don
April 24, 2006
8:10 AM
Tim
Thanks for the post - I too had an upbringing based on the WSC. Whilst not appreciating it at all during my childhood and teenage years, I came to see it’s benefit at university. While I was seeing other’s struggling with the concepts of justification and sanctification I was able, by God’s grace, to recall the framework the WSC had laid for me. Now as a father of 3, I must admit I find the wording of the WSC hard work for my kids - do you or any others have recommendation of an updated WSC?
I will look into the resource mentioned by Tom in the mean time.
Don
39. Tom Stack
April 24, 2006
2:22 PM
Hey, Don. As you’ve probably already noticed, the Cambridge Presbyterian Church Catechism Notes are particularly helpful as they provide the Q&A in the Modern English version, and I know that for my 7 and 9 year old, it is much easier for them to understand what they’re learning, and to repeat it in more “modern day” English.
Trust that helps.
Blessings!! SDG
Tom Doctrine Matters
40. Jonathan Erdman
May 4, 2006
3:01 PM
Just a comment on the used of lots in Acts 1. In his book Finding The Will of God: A Pagan Notion?, Bruce Waltke points out that after the coming of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost, no where do we find the believers using lots ever again. So while it could have been used before the coming of the Spirit, now believers no longer need to use lots because we are indwelt by the Spirit. The book itself is a helpful read, not long, and I recommend it. Posted by Jim Vellenga
I think the above point is very instructive.
We may not use lots today, but if we have the fullness of the Spirit of God, then why would we think that the Spirit would NOT lead us in certain situations??? I don’t understand where we get the biblical instruction to simply “make a wise choice” in any and all situations. If we truly have the Spirit of God in us then it seems rather unwise to discount His work in our lives to prompt us. This may seem “hokey” to Tim C. and to some of the people in the above comments, but that’s ok. To say that God most certainly will NEVER lead and guide us by his Spirit finds no Scriptural support as far as I can see and it strikes me as somewhat contrived.
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