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The Hearts of My Children

I hope this article will be the final one in a disorganized and rambling mini-series I’ve written about children. I’ve looked at my understanding of what happens to children when they die, and hope today to explain why I assume my young children to be unsaved. This will not be a theological treatise as much as a personal reflection.

Tedd Tripp’s Shepherding A Child’s Heart has helped formulate my thoughts on this issue. He premises much of the teaching of his book on the understanding that all human beings are worshippers. God created us to worship and we will worship—we will either worship God or idols. Romans 1:18-19 tells us “the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them.” We see there are two responses to the clear revelation of God that is extended to all men. People will either acknowledge and submit or they will suppress. Those who refuse to submit to God will turn further and further from Him and will soon worship idols. These will not necessarily be idols of wood and stone, but may be idols of the heart. In either case, they turn in rebellion away from the Creator. Alternatively, they may submit to God, accept His rule, and live in the joy and freedom of knowing God and of being known by Him. The question is, then, are my children in the former group or the latter?

It seems to me there are three attitudes a parent can have towards the hearts of his children: that a child will have a natural orientation towards God, a neutral orientation, or a natural orientation away from God. I’ll discuss each of these briefly.

Towards God - I grew up in a church culture that held, at least in practice if not in theory, to the understanding that children of believing parents have a natural inclination towards God. Children were rarely challenged with the gospel and much of the teaching in church, home and school was impersonal, dealing more with “us” than with “you.” It was assumed that, unless a child proved otherwise, he was saved by virtue of being born as a child of the covenant. This “presumptive regeneration” led to great numbers of children whose words and actions clearly showed them to be unsaved even though their parents, elders and pastors assumed they were saved and continually assured them of this. And as there were many children, blissfully unaware that their hearts were turned against God, so there must have been many adults in the same state. Not only is this understanding unsupported by Scripture, but plain evidence bears out just how harmful it can be. I am grateful that my parents never held to this, but continually challenged us with the gospel.

Neutrality - The Bible allows no room for neutrality. All human beings, including the youngest children, are either for God or against Him. They either worship God or worship idols. There is no one who is neutral.

Away From God - Ever since the Fall, the natural state of men and women is estrangement from God. The familiar words of Psalm 51:5 tell of David’s reflection on the state of his heart. “Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me.” The less familiar words of Psalm 58:3 are no less convicting. “The wicked are estranged from the womb; they go astray from birth, speaking lies.” From the moment of conception, human hearts are filled with iniquity and seek to go astray from God. The human heart is evil and desperately wicked. Scripture paints a bleak picture of the human heart and the picture begins at the very moment of conception. This is true of my children. They were conceived and born in sin. They sin because they are sinners. They need a Savior.

It is not only Scripture that tells me that young children have a natural disinclination to God. My experience and the experience of many friends and acquaintances proves that a great many children raised in Christian families do not submit to God until years after birth. While it is not atypical for children to express a love of God and to even profess faith in God as young children, more commonly children seem to experience true conversion when they are older. I am one of many Christians who began to pray to God from a young age and who even asked God to save me when I was just tiny. But it was not until I was fourteen or fifteen that I feel I was truly converted and when the faith of my parents became my faith. Suddenly Christianity was not the belief my family held to, but the very truth of God that I knew, loved and accepted. So many of my friends have shared similar stories that I know my experience is not unique. It was not until I was a teenager that I knew I was saved. It was not until then that I feel I truly loved God as Father and Christ as Savior.

I know it is unfair to expect my children to have the same experiences I had. They may profess Christ from a young age, and if they do, I will rejoice. Yet I will also wait patiently, diligently helping them to search their hearts, to ensure they know Christ as Lord and Savior. To this point, none of my children, aged six, three and three months, have professed faith in Christ. They claim to love God and know that they need to love God more than even mommy and daddy. But I have not yet seen true repentance, brokenness or understanding of the gravity of sin. It is entirely possible that one or more of them have already been saved. But I do not assume this to be the case. Rather, I assume that my children continue to worship idols until I see them faithfully and diligently serving God. It seems to me that the task of a Christian parent is to seek to guide children from idols to God. It is to understand that your children will worship something and to shepherd them “as a creature who worships, pointing [them] to the One who alone is worthy of worship.” This is the task I have undertaken.

Until my children express faith in God and provide a credible expression of their conversion, I will continue to share the gospel with them and to shepherd them, as faithfully as I can, to understand that even now they are worshipping something. And when, by the grace of God, they turn to God and submit to Him, I will continue to share the gospel with them, that we may rejoice together in the goodness and faithfulness of a God whose love is so deep and so wide. I have faith that God will save my children, but do not have confidence that He has done this yet. Yet I know that His timing is always perfect.

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1. Chris Poteet
August 1, 2006
11:51 AM

I appreciate your heart in this article.


2. Hillbilly_Calvinist
August 1, 2006
2:03 PM

Tim,

Good post. My oldest two children are 10 and 13. Both of them have been baptized. Both of them claim to want to follow Christ. But I see the focus of there life, and like you, I am praying for the conversion to take place.

This article did give me an idea though. I am going to try and show them what they are worshipping before God. My daughter is easy. She is the 13 year old who thinks she’s 20. Cloths, hair styles, chatting with friends and boys are her agenda (I will lose my hair soon!!!). My son is an easy one as well, video games.

Thanks.


3. Marty
August 1, 2006
2:22 PM

Tim, Excellent post. Evangelism among children is something that doesn’t often take place. Instead they are just taught Bible stories that are easy to turn into pictures, crafts and games. Nothing terribly wrong with that as long as they are also taught the gospel and the need to respond to the gospel in repentance and faith.

What you said about children and the gospel is one reason the publishing ministry I work for produces a gospel tract specificially aimed at children. It is meant to be taught through with children so as to lead them towards faith and repentance. Some have been terribly offended when I speak about such a gospel outline aimed at such an audience - primarily because they have that belief you outlined as children being generally inclined towards God.


4. meg
August 1, 2006
3:25 PM

Tim,

The section of this post devoted to the idea that children of believing parents automatically have a natural inclination toward God was extremely helpful for me, and i think you hit the nail dead on the head here.

By far the most common testimony i hear from my peers as a college student is “i was raised in a christian home but i didn’t start to follow God truly until high school/college/last month.” Very few will be braver and admit that though they were raised in a Christian home, they were never actually saved until they understood and repented of their sin, much later in life.

This hesitancy, even now, to admit that we were unsaved all those years is another fruit of that belief that you discuss in this post. Thanks for clarifiying it so well, I’ve always had a bit of a hard time explaining it, especially as my own parents and many others continue to insist that those of us with this testimony have been christians since we were small children, despite evidence to the contrary.


5. Alex Chediak
August 1, 2006
3:34 PM

Tim,

Makes sense. BTW, I think that many pastors who hold to “instant heaven” for babies who die would not disagree with anything that you’ve said here.

Thanks again for this series, Alex


6. hillbilly_calvinist
August 1, 2006
4:25 PM

Alex Said,

“BTW, I think that many pastors who hold to “instant heaven” for babies who die would not disagree with anything that you’ve said here. “

Alex, I agree 100%. I see no conflict.


7. Tim Challies
August 1, 2006
4:36 PM

“Makes sense. BTW, I think that many pastors who hold to “instant heaven” for babies who die would not disagree with anything that you’ve said here.”

I quite agree. The fact that many or most children of believers do not convert until their teenage years could even be used as an argument for an age of accountability…


8. Jeri
August 1, 2006
5:37 PM

I’m blessed by all these comments! What a good God we serve.


9. Jerry Morningstar
August 1, 2006
7:12 PM

Stupid question: What does BTW stand for?


10. Tim Challies
August 1, 2006
7:26 PM

“What does BTW stand for?”

By The Way


11. Silly Old Mom
August 1, 2006
7:28 PM

I’m in the same boat, Tim. I also have three — almost 7, 4.5, and 3. The older two have professed faith, and I’m checking the trees frequently for fruit (or flowers, at least).

My oldest has attempted to witness to certain people around her (without any pushing from me), so that much is encouraging.

I wonder whether we should have the oldest baptized now, or wait for more obvious fruit, or even wait until my daughter brings it up.


12. Peter D. Nelson
August 1, 2006
8:01 PM

I quite agree. The fact that many or most children of believers do not convert until their teenage years could even be used as an argument for an age of accountability…

I was with you up and until that point Tim. I’m afraid I can see no scriptural basis for an age of accountability.


13. Tim Challies
August 1, 2006
9:01 PM

“I was with you up and until that point Tim. I’m afraid I can see no scriptural basis for an age of accountability.”

Nor can I. I was just saying that people might (and do) use that same argument to support an age of accountability.


14. steveprost
August 1, 2006
9:38 PM

Tim, you create a false trichotomy of three choices of “a natural orientation towards God, a neutral orientation, or a natural orientation away from God” on the part of your children, and then by that presupposition test your experience and lack of certainty to conclude (or err on the side of) the third alternative, “a natural orientation away from God”. There is no room in your choices for the objective and existential reality of Romans 7 for any regenerate Christian who has an “inner man” that delights in God’s law, but simultaneously falls far short and says “oh wretched man that I am” and falls far short of what he knows God calls him to be. A lack of a sophisticated, maturely developed sense of repentance rather than a child-like expressed repentance does not negate the existence of valid repentance.

I think a better model is analagous to that of Paul in Galatians (and in many other epistles by other NT writers) who addresses confessing Christians as Christians who have been saved, but in further explication is very concerned that the hearers prove that their salvation, or election, is a sure real thing rather than a counterfeit one that will have proved Paul’s efforts in evangelizing and discipling them had been “in vain”. That is how we should treat immature adult professors of Christianity, and how I believe we should treat our precious children who belong to our Christian communities and profess Christ as Lord. Warn vehemently, yes, but to even tentatively label and classify them as children of darkness and wrath and the devil, heavens no, ESPECIALLY since you concede some degree of likelihood of regeneration!

IOW, I discern a “light” biblical presumption of regeneration and election on the part of Christian professing hearers in the Christian community that when pressed to explain admits that “not all Israel/Christians are true Israel/Christians” in many cases what is professed and hoped for may not be the objective reality. Although many of my Presbyterian brethren would despise my practice, I treat all my children as Christian in general (I do not go so far as classic Dutch presumptive regeneration) while simultaneously teaching them that they need to “work out their salvation with fear and trembling”, persevere in the faith, run the race of repentance of faith, desparately continually looking to Christ’s atonement and resurrection and his Spirit for strength and power to run that race, making their calling and election sure. It is my experience that my five year old son has a better understanding of what I perceive to be the candid biblical balance one must maintain in immature stages of Chritianity then most professing Christian adults.


15. Brian Thornton
August 1, 2006
9:45 PM

“I wonder whether we should have the oldest baptized now, or wait for more obvious fruit, or even wait until my daughter brings it up.”

I am not aware of any instruction in Scripture to wait for ‘fruit’ before allowing one to be baptised. I believe quite the opposite seems to be the norm in the Bible, from the Ethiopian eunic who was baptised right away, to the jailer, to Cornelius and his household.

As to the rest of this on how to treat your children, the Bible is very clear:

“do not provoke your children to anger, but bring them up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord.” - Eph. 6:4

This was modeled in Timothy’s life, as he knew the holy Scriptures from infancy - 2 Tim. 3:15

Other passages:

These commandments that I give you today are to be upon your hearts. Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. - Deut. 6:6-7

We will not hide them from their children; we will tell the next generation the praiseworthy deeds of the Lord, his power, and the wonders he has done. - Ps. 78:4


16. Custard
August 2, 2006
2:14 AM

I agree we should be telling our kids the gospel. I don’t agree we should regard them as unsaved.

In my experience, very young kids tend to believe what their parents tell them. If you teach them from an early age not to trust strange men, they won’t trust strange men. If you teach them to trust God from an early age (as I’m sure you do), then they will trust God.

They might later decide that actually they won’t trust God, which would then make them backslidden (I’ve been there). If they were genuinely elect, then God will call them back to himself, as he does with all elect backsliders.

Jesus said “But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin…” Evidently, even little ones can “believe in Jesus” even before they can verbalise or express their faith.


17. Silly Old Mom
August 2, 2006
3:53 AM

I am not aware of any instruction in Scripture to wait for ‘fruit’ before allowing one to be baptised.

Nor am I. I’m just paranoid about what Tim discussed — giving kids a false sense of eternal security. Count me as “weak and doubting” in this area. Like I said, I struggle with it.


18. pappadeas
August 2, 2006
7:20 AM

Shepherding a Child’s Heart may very well be the best book I’ve read on parenting. I’ve read quite a few, as my “kids” are now 25, 22, & 21. Age of Opportunity, focusing on the teen years, is an excellent companion to this book, written by Tedd’s brother Paul. The Case for Kids is a seminar given by Tedd and Paul, and is available on video. These are “must haves” for Christian parents. Thank you Tim.


19. Christopher Klemm
August 2, 2006
7:58 AM

Very nice post! Honest and heart felt. I share some of your feelings. Shepherding your children to Christ is a very high calling (and responsibility) for both parents but particularly for the spiritual head of the home. This is a tough area as the Bible states that true repentance is necessary to be converted yet does a child have the capacity to understand they’ve done wrong in the form of being a sinner before God?

I believe a child can and does understand, at the level that they can at that point in their life.

One example comes from my (now) 6 year old daughter. One day she came home and said with a worysome look, “Someone at the kindergarten said to me that if I don’t trust in Jesus, I will go to a burning place forever.” We responded, “The Bible does say that if we don’t repent (apologize) from our sins, and trust in Jesus and do what he tells us to do, that we will go to that place.”

She started to cry and said, “I don’t want to go there.” After that, we did the crying (joyful it was!) as we witnessed the way to Jesus Christ to her. She accepted him and is now very mindful and sensitive to the things she does wrong when reminded and patiently instructed by Mom and Dad.

This is the key. We must not stop there. We must continue on with the teaching because as they grow, they understand more and more which means you can tell them more and more so that they can understand it and apply it, the best that they can.

It is every parent’s desire to see their child give their lives to Christ. They are our primary ministry so hang in there and pray hard together with your wife and be prepared always to give an answer to them…in between your regular teachings and instructions withj them.

May God bless you and use you for the furtherance of His Kingdom!


20. Sebastian Heck
August 2, 2006
8:29 AM

Tim, it’s shame baptism does not come in to your discussion of our children’s “destiny”. Even if we reject baptismal regeneration (which I do!) we should at the very least discuss the possibility that good ol’ paedobaptism has a point: baptism is a sign and seal of the promise of God for our children’s (!) salvation (Acts 2:38 and the likes!). So what’s the point of baptizing our children, if we cannot trust God’s promise for them?


21. Brian Thornton
August 2, 2006
10:04 AM

Acts 2:38 doesn’t talk just about baptism…it also talks about repentance prior to baptism.


22. Aaron
August 2, 2006
11:17 AM

Tim,

The “presumptive regeneration” you speak of seems to be becoming more prevalent in some “theological circles” today (whatever those are). I think the teaching on the new birth in John 3 is absolutely essential in dealing with our children. The new birth / regeneration is a work of GOD, not of man. So we cannot train our children to be born again. They must be born from above to have eternal life. I think we are doing a great disservice to our children when we presume them Christians until proven otherwise. God Himself must take out their heart of stone and give them a heart of flesh. While a somewhat extreme example, I really think the account of Phoebe Bartlett’s conversion (a 4-year old) by Jonathan Edwards should be read by all Christian parents. I know we must be careful there because conversion is not the same for every person and we must remember that this was during a time of revival. But it provides stark contrast to the way many children are “brought up in the Lord” today.


23. B. Minich
August 2, 2006
1:35 PM

Having worked with young boys at a summer camp for years, I can attest to your basic assumption. Most of the kids I’ve worked with, regardless of background, don’t exhibit the fruit of salvation. My primary job is to preach the gospel to these kids, challenging their assumptions about their souls. A lot of the kids come from Christian homes, but that doesn’t change the fact that many of them do not seem to be regenerated. This is why I would always start out the week with a challenge to the kids to examine their hearts, even if they assume they are saved - I want them to look at WHY they think this - what are they basing their confidence on?

On the other hand, I have encountered regenerated kids as well. I’ve seen 8-12 year olds doing things that I can only attribute to God’s saving work. I’ve spent late conversations answering questions about God, what he is like, how do we live for him, how can we know we are saved (that spawned an amazing conversation), and many other things like that. I believe my younger brother was saved at a young age. I know I was saved by the time I was 11, if not sooner. (I know I had thoughts about God and sin before then, but that is the first time I really remember understanding the gospel.) I agree that you should not assume kids are saved because they grow up in the church - I too have seen many who are not, or who came to knowledge of God later in life. We need to be faithful in preaching the gospel clearly, and making them aware of what they must do about it. The rest is up to God.


24. Bill Barnes
August 2, 2006
2:41 PM

Tim,

I may not be completely wired-in to all the points you’ve made on this series and for that I apologize.

I’d like to make a point on God saving infants however that I think is somewhat essential to Reformed Faith. It is God’s prerogative who He will save. This is, in part, why the Westminster Confession allows for special cases like infants (those who are elect) and the severely mentally handicapped (those who are elect). As our Lord says in John 3:8 “The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”

Shall we limit God’s ability to save where He has not limited it?

Soli Deo Gloria,


25. Tim Challies
August 2, 2006
3:27 PM

“I may not be completely wired-in to all the points you’ve made on this series and for that I apologize.”

Bill - I’ve pretty well covered some of this in the previous articles. I’ve affirmed that it is God who decides whom He will save and said we can have confidence that all of His elect will be taken to heaven, regardless of age or capability.


26. Bill Barnes
August 2, 2006
6:58 PM

Right. Sorry about that. Thanks,


27. Nan
August 2, 2006
8:00 PM

“Tim, you create a false trichotomy of three choices of “a natural orientation towards God, a neutral orientation, or a natural orientation away from God” on the part of your children, and then by that presupposition test your experience and lack of certainty to conclude (or err on the side of) the third alternative, “a natural orientation away from God”. There is no room in your choices for the objective and existential reality of Romans 7 for any regenerate Christian who has an “inner man” that delights in God’s law, but simultaneously falls far short and says “oh wretched man that I am” and falls far short of what he knows God calls him to be. A lack of a sophisticated, maturely developed sense of repentance rather than a child-like expressed repentance does not negate the existence of valid repentance.”

Thank you! This is exactly what I was going to say, though surely I would have butchered it and not said it nearly as well. Why look to perpetual diligence in righteousness and repentance as the only sign of true and saving faith in children and yet not place that standard on truly converted adults. I find it silly and sad (to say the least) to place such outwardly regimented signs of salvation and sanctification only upon children. The baby fruit of repentance growing on the baby tree of a baby believer is going to look markedly different than the mature fruit of the mature believer. This fact does not make the baby believer any less of a believer. How often do you find yourself to be failing and falling short of the glory of God? Surely you’ve seen the analogy of the growing cross. When faith in Christ is new the cross seems big and our sin seems big but as we grow as a believer we do not grow in so much righteousness that the cross begins to look smaller because we find ourselves to be ever more sanctified and ever more ready to repent. Rather the opposite is true… the aged believer sees his sin as ever larger than he imagined and the cross as more enormous than he could have ever even hoped when he first believed. You suggest that you actually understood the full gravity of your sin when you were a teenager. Really? the FULL gravity was apparent to you as a teenager? Yes, surely your faith began to grow and put down deeper roots but the valid seed was in the ground and was forming up until that point.
Since you offered anecdotal evidence from your life and the lives of people you know, in a case against offering assurance of salvation to our children who express their faith as children I will offer my own and it must be seen as equally valid because it is my true history and therefore cannot be refuted. I became a Christian as a small child and steadily grew in my faith, never experiencing a harsh rebellion and never feeling that my childhood was invalid merely because I really began to grow in my early twenties. When a fruiting tree begins to bear visible, mature and good tasting fruit it is surely a time for rejoicing but it doesn’t mean it wasn’t actually a fruit tree all along. Just because those roots had not yet formed does not mean that the faith was any less real and less worthy of assurance. How sad for the children that are never offered any assurance of salvation until they prove by outward acts that look like true repentance to us that they have finally really gotten it. If this were the measure I know a good many people who have proven and disproven their salvation over and over again, leaving everyone in a quandry as to the position of their hearts. Isn’t that what everyone’s heart condition is to us until we reach glory? It’s a mystery even to the owner of the heart at times! Children who express faith and repentance in a childlike manner deserve the same assurance of salvation that a newly converted adult receives. While we don’t automatically say, “You prayed the prayer, you walked the aisle so you get a big star now!” we also don’t mark a line in the sand telling them that until they prove by deeper understanding and “eating of solid foods” that they aren’t maybe officially saved. Their understanding of the gravity of their sin and the glory of the cross will grow if they are truly saved. It is not our place to judge in either case, who is regenerate and who is unregenerate… neither our children nor the new adult convert who lives next door to us. We often fool ourselves into thinking that we are alright with God for any number of reasons when real repentance is not taking place on a regular basis. I know this is true of me. We regularly fail even to see the sin and deception in our own hearts because “the heart is deceitful beyond seeking out. Who can know it?” The easy and only answer to that is God. While it is “unsafe” to assume salvation upon infants, it is also unwise to assume unregeneration upon them until proven otherwise. When our sin blinds us even to the rotten condition of our own hearts how are we remotely qualified to read the hearts of others? “Who can know it?” Only God. Prase be to Him. Nan


28. Jimmie W. Kersh
August 2, 2006
10:34 PM

Tim,

I am so glad I have found your site. From a Biblical context you are dead on. I have not allowed our children to make public professions of faith. My oldest prayed the prayer two years ago at church. I asked him if God was speaking to him asking him to become a believer. He said no, he just did not want to go to hell and wanted to go to heaven. I have talked to him almost daily concerning this and he has never heard God calling him to become a believer.

As a youth and education minister I am worried that my church pushes “salvation” as an “easy come” “easy go” kind of thing.

I know that God will do His own thing at His own time with my family. I am not going to sweat the details, He has always been faithful to me and my family and I trust Him to be faithful in this area as well.

Again, thank you for allowing me to be able to read the wisdom on your site.


29. gina
August 3, 2006
12:45 AM

Nan, I think you are right on.


30. Aaron
August 3, 2006
10:16 AM

Nan said: Why look to perpetual diligence in righteousness and repentance as the only sign of true and saving faith in children and yet not place that standard on truly converted adults. I find it silly and sad (to say the least) to place such outwardly regimented signs of salvation and sanctification only upon children.

Looking at outward actions in both children AND adults can be very dangerous. It is not very hard for an adult to live an outwardly moral life and appear to bear the fruit of the spirit and yet the heart is deceived because it is doing all for self. Now this may be harder for a child to “fake” because their parents are with them constantly, but it is still dangerous. We should not simply look to a person’s works or outward actions, but instead look to the heart. The key issue is this: does the child or adult have a new heart or a new nature, and does the child or adult have the love of God for God dwelling in them?

“Children who express faith and repentance in a childlike manner deserve the same assurance of salvation that a newly converted adult receives.”

The problem is, what is considered to be faith? Is it the sight of the glory of God in the face of Christ or just some intellectual agreement to things? I once heard a father tell me that the fact that his children are so obedient is evidence of their conversion. But this is very dangerous! Many children are obedient simply because they fear the rod, or because they want the approval of man (in fact, I would say that’s why most all children are obedient unless they truly are born again). While a mature believer will be more progressed in holiness, there is still a defining difference between all believers and all unbelievers: the love of God. So the question we must ask ourselves of our children is: is the “fruit” and repentence that appear to be happening out of a love for God and His glory, or out of a fear of hell and love for self?


31. Nan
August 3, 2006
12:56 PM

Aaron, I think you are totally right. I do believe though that only God can truly know the heart. It is impossible for us to see perfectly clearly what is going on in the heart of another when even our own hearts can be such a mystery to us. We really have to teach by word and deed that we need to constantly be evaluating why we do what we do… and what ultimately makes our “living sacrifice” holy and pleasing to God as a spiritual act of worship. No matter what, we ought to be discussing the condition of our/their hearts with our children. Even when my kids “do right” I try to talk to them about why they did/said what they did/said because I want them to know it’s the motivation of their heart that matters more than the outward expression. And children can definitely fake people out with their piety — I have one! And I realize he might put himself in more danger than his outwardly naughty brother because he is convincing himself that if people think I’m being good then that’s good enough. Thanks for your comments! Nan


32. Lynn
August 4, 2006
1:58 PM

Tim, since you’re reading, or have read, Ted Tripp’s book, you would enjoy Lou Priolo’s book, Teach Them Diligently. It kind of picks up where Tripp’s book left off. Priolo’s book gives you ideas on how to implement it all. You probably know how to do that already, but I thought I’d suggest it anyway.

Lynn