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01/17/07
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Book Review - Me, Myself, & Bob

Phil Vischer - Me, Myself, & BobI never really caught on to the VeggieTales craze. I was introduced to them by friends when I was in my late teens but couldn’t bring myself to watch and enjoy a kids’ show featuring talking vegetables. I could appreciate some of the humor, but I usually opted out of the VeggieTales evenings others enjoyed. At that time I had no idea, and nor did anyone else, I suppose, what a phenomenon the Veggies would become.

VeggieTales was created by Phil Vischer in 1990 with the first video being released three years later. It was a significant film as it was on the cutting edge of computer animation and was, in fact, America’s first widely-distributed computer animated video production. Where’s God When I’m S-Scared? marked the founding of an empire that has gone on to sell over 50 million videos and countless plush toys, games, neckties and every other conceivable piece of merchandise. The flagship product of Vischer’s Big Idea Productions, VeggieTales was meant to be only the first franchise produced by a media empire Vischer hoped would soon rival Nickelodeon and Disney, but bringing Christian values into a marketplace saturated with a complete lack of values. Writing about these competitors, Vischer says:

By the mid-1990s, the media industry had consolidated so aggressively that the vast majority of children’s entertainment was controlled by just three companies - Viacom, Time Warner, and Disney. Each employing more than 50,000 people, these companies were now so large that one industry analyst described working with them as more like working with nation-states than companies. The problem with these giant, publicly traded media goliaths isn’t that they are immoral, but rather than they are profoundly amoral. They are valueless. They are simply too big to focus on any specific value system or moral code, and instead must be all things to all people. … Why do they sell good values to preschoolers? Because there is money in it. Why do they sell lousy values to the same kids ten years later? Because there is money in it. When faced with the choice between doing what is beneficial and doing what is profitable, these companies chose profitable every time. Their shareholders require it.

Convinced that he was fulfilling God’s dream for his life, Vischer attempted to rival these companies but was shocked to see the empire crumble and fall into bankruptcy just as it seemed at the pinnacle of success. Big Idea was eventually bought out of bankruptcy by Classic Media, the company that now owns the rights to all things VeggieTales. This book, Me, Myself, & Bob is the story of Phil, Big Idea, and VeggieTales. It begins with the author’s birth into a devout Christian family and ends with him wrestling with what the future will hold now that his beloved vegetables are outside of his control.

Laced with the trademark humor that helped make VeggieTales a success among both children and adults, this book is fun and enjoyable to read. There are many laugh out loud moments. And yet there are also plenty of poignant moments, particularly as Vischer begins to see his world crumble and loses the company he worked so hard to build. He makes many astute observations about himself and human nature, admitting that it was his own sin (not just his shortcomings or mistakes, but sin) that contributed to the company’s downfall. He accepts responsibility for causing Big Idea to crumble and apologizes for this.

And then he looks to the future. Unfortunately, in the days since Big Idea, he seems to have spent a great deal of time reading books by authors such as Henri Nouwen and Henry Blackaby. While he feels that these authors have equipped him to live life in a way that will not allow him to repeat the sins of his past, I’m not so sure, based on his reflections, that he is a lot further ahead. The final chapters discuss “living in the center of God’s will” and other troubling concepts associated with men like Blackaby (I’ll admit that these include concepts that may be more troubling to me, as a cessationist, than they would be to my continuationist friends.). And so the final chapters, those that wrestle with the “how?” and “why?” and “what now?” are a mixed bag. There are some valuable and mature reflections, but others that just don’t seem to measure up.

Me, Myself, & Bob was a book I was not expecting. It showed up in the mail and I immediately consigned it to the “don’t bother” pile. I soon thought better of this and was rewarded with what I found to be a fascinating, funny and enjoyable book. While I would not necessarily recommend it for its theological precision, it does contain fascinating biography of Phil Vischer, the company he built, and the characters he created.

Book Review - Me, Myself, & Bob

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1. Colin Adams
January 17, 2007
10:43 AM

Since my two very young children pretty much love the Veggie Tales, I’d be interested to read this book. Actually, after having heard a lot of bad press, I’ve been pleasantly surprised with most of the content. Its not bad. That said, a mild gripe is that often the “lessons” resort to fairly human-centred applications (eg. “Goliath was a big giant, so you can slay the giants in your life”) rather than the more God exalting (“David believed that God alone was King, and through God’s power, defeated Goliath”). I also agree that Veggie Tales has fairly good humour - but I do worry about some of the extra biblical details mixed in there. At some point I’m going to have to tell me son there were NO pirates in the Veggie Tales story!? He won’t believe me - or the bible ;)


2. Nicholas Cardot
January 17, 2007
11:42 AM

Sounds like an interesting book.


3. Ann
January 17, 2007
12:12 PM

The book sounds interesting. You might be interested in a couple of net-casts highlighting Phil Vischer and the demise of his company.

http://www.nuclearity.org/


4. Greg from BC
January 17, 2007
1:09 PM

Tim,

I have never posted on yours or anyone else’s blog before, just never had the guts I guess. I have appreciated many of your writings and enjoyed your ala Carte section.

But what prompts me to write is after reading your review of Vischer’s book and many other articles and reviews you’ve posted over the last year or so, is a disturbing thread that I used to live my life by as well - a narrow-minded tribalism when it comes to doctrine and truth. It disturbs me becaus of the disunity (I know you’re already writing me off b/c of that one…)and hurt that is caused by many in the Neo-Reformed movement (those followers of MacArthur and his ilk - there are many others, but he seems to figure most prominently in your influences, and was in my own life). It is seen in this present review, when after positively reviewing the book, when Vischer goes on to say what has helped him, you feel the need to throw in “Unfortunatley” when recounting it was Nouwen and Blackaby who helped him, doubting their helpfulness because…(my words here)- how could anyone be of anything but harm when they come from a different theological circle or take other positions different from our Reformed camp ! Nouwen and Blackaby were (in the case of Nouwen-deceased) and are great, respected Christian men who have caused us to look at God differently and learn things from a different angle we hadn’t before.

I must say that this doctrinal arrogance has become sickening to me (and I did my own share of it). You know exactly who’s in or out based on who their heroes are or aren’t, and how exactly their positions link up to yours (speaking of ‘yours’ in a collective Reformed-camp sense, not just you), and which Bible translation they use. People like Nowen, Yancey, and even more Emergent people (the horror!) deal with pain and doubt in a real and authentic way that our Reformed heroes frankly don’t. It’s not that MacArthur and his band of brothers are bad men - they’re far from it - but they (no one) do not have a corner on the truth. We need the whole body of Christ to minister God’s grace in “all of it’s various forms” which doesn’t mean: “in all of it’s doctrinal, academic forms”. And if we’re talking about God who is beyond ALL human comprehension, then this is where we have to land. We will never have Him figured out, and I think true worship is impossible when we think we do.

I surprised myself by profiting greatly from a book by a female preacher, and in your eyes somewhat of a liberal, called ‘Leaving Church’ where she deals with all the emotions of loving God yet leaving the ministry. Sure, I didn’t agree with everything, but there were Godward thoughts that blew me away. And that’s how it works - we don’t buy the whole bag of anyone - even if it’s put out by P&R Publishing - and even if they quote from the ESV!
But we have to acknowledge that we ALL bring our pre-understandings into the Bible and thus we will always miss something that someone else gets because of what their tradition emphasized.

I’m just concerned that these types of reviews and articles do more to divide and hurt true Christians based on peripheral issues, by labelling people ‘Liberal’ ‘compromisers’, thus anyone who has profited from them, if they believe you, feel their growth was false and suspect. We focus on controllable issues (easy to critique and feel righteous in doing so) while neglecting the weightier matters of the law - such as love.

I really do believe we’ll be surprised when we arrive in Eternity.

Sorry for the terrible length, but I feel it needed to be said.

Thanks.


5. donsands
January 17, 2007
1:40 PM

Thanks for pickin’ that book out of the “don’t bother pile”, and for the review. My wife may be very interested in reading it.

I don’t know much about Blackaby or Nouwen. Are they in the same mold as a Brian McLaren? If so, that would be scary for Mr. Vischer.

I don’t see where you spoke where it would cause disunity and hurt.


6. Tim Strickland
January 17, 2007
1:50 PM

Hi Tim,

Enjoyed the review and enjoy your site - just a little confused about the negative reference to Henri Nouwen and Henry Blackaby. They seem like different people to lump into the same sentence. What are your concerns with each, particularly with Blackaby? I have found him to be very helpful and when I have heard him speak he calls people to holiness and repentence and to seek after the Lord.

Again, appreciate your work - just a little confused/concerned about this reference.

Thanks, Tim


7. Brian @ voiceofthesheep
January 17, 2007
1:58 PM

I had a whole long response to Greg, but then realized it would have taken this thread off topic (sorry David, you don’t get to kick me back into play this time).

I am sad to hear that Vischer has found direction and meaning in the theology of the likes of Blackaby and Nouwen. I pray he takes the time to read Scripture above all, but also the likes of Koukl (Stand to Reason) when it comes to decision making and the will of God.


8. Joel
January 17, 2007
2:02 PM

I enjoy VeggieTales and will probably read the book. The pharisitic tone in regards to Blackaby and the cessationist/continuationist issue seems unnecessary.


9. John Lee
January 17, 2007
2:35 PM

I have to agree with Greg from BC. This site is a breath of fresh air in its spiritual insight, love for Scripture, and fine writing. It is a breath, however, tinged by more than a whisper of elitism.

As related to the post, it would have been a tragedy if Vischer had bought into the philosophy and writings of nihilists or secular universalists as absolution to his downfall. But I can hardly see how it is “unfortunate” that he found his way out of his spiritual morass through the writings of God-loving men as Blackaby or Nouwen.

It is almost akin to saying that it is unfortunate that he was influenced by Peterson’s The Message. Only the ESV can lead one back to Him, after all.


10. Kyle
January 17, 2007
3:22 PM

Man, why’s everyone so down on ESV in this thread?!

Kyle


11. Tim Challies
January 17, 2007
4:37 PM

I used the word “unfortunately” because I feel it is unfortunate that Vischer became enraptured with Blackaby and Nouwen. From reading this last couple of chapters, it is clear that they led him towards a kind of mysticism that was foreign to him, but which attracted him. I’m quite sure that it was not a good thing. I have seen up close and personal where a dedication to mysticism can and does lead.

Don’t think I’m suggesting that Vischer has fallen from grace or anything like that. I just think he has followed a poor path in his quest to regain his confidence in God after his world fell apart.

“The pharisitic tone in regards to Blackaby and the cessationist/continuationist issue seems unnecessary.”

I don’t think there was anything pharisaical about my tone. I merely expressed a concern (see above).

“They seem like different people to lump into the same sentence. What are your concerns with each, particularly with Blackaby?”

I lumped them together because they are now Vischer’s two primary influencers (or so it would seem). My concerns with Blackaby primarily revolve around his mystical bent and his views around seeking and doing the will of God. I consider these views dangerous and unbiblical.


12. Ryan Wale
January 17, 2007
4:39 PM

Mr. Challies,

Just a word of encouragement…when I read the review, I thought nothing of the comment in question. You read with discerning eyes and mentioned your observation in the review. I for one appreciate your candor…continue being a faithful Berean, brother!

Sola Deo Gloria


13. Jane
January 17, 2007
4:42 PM

Every believer draws a line somewhere when it comes to personal theology. Those commenting on Tim’s line just draw their line at a different point than Tim would. I’m a longtime reader of this blog and while there are instances where I feel like Tim is coming down too hard or splitting hairs with certain authors, others could very well accuse me of the same. We all have a line we draw between good theology/bad theology, we just differ as to where.

We all have the freedom to say by the conviction of the Holy Spirit what Christian teaching/resources we find helpful and what resources we find less helpful or even detrimental. I duly note Tim’s comments in this area but I reserve the right to read for myself and form my own opinions guided by biblical conviction.


14. pilgrim
January 17, 2007
9:15 PM

Vischer also got poor business advice.

Veggie Tales are good for what they are. Some people get all uptight as if the Veggies were meant to be a kids main source of theology. Such a view would be way off. But as entertainment? They can be quite funny—but they have gone downhill a bit…


15. Kelly
January 18, 2007
12:39 AM

Not to complain too much, but you tend to reference something in your posts — like, say, lectio divina — noting you have an issue with it, but never elaborate in a future post about it.

What about “living in the center of God’s will” is troubling? What does Blackaby have to do with it? What does being a continuationist have to do with it?

I’m not commenting to complain; I’m a faithful reader who’s just confused by your post.


16. Tim Challies
January 18, 2007
7:28 AM

“What about “living in the center of God’s will” is troubling? What does Blackaby have to do with it? What does being a continuationist have to do with it?”

I really do need to address God’s will in a series of posts. Perhaps I’ll try to tackle that in a week or two (when I have some time to write it all).


17. C.H.H.
January 18, 2007
8:35 AM

This looks like an interesting read.

I’ve always had issue with the Veggie Tales movies that try to re-tell Bible stories. It’s not like there’s a shortage of reverence for Scripture these days that needs to be corrected…! They’ve been at their best when they’ve simply told funny, entertaining, and morally instructive stories like Madame Blueberry.


18. Todd H.
January 18, 2007
9:14 AM

“I really do need to address God’s will in a series of posts. Perhaps I’ll try to tackle that in a week or two (when I have some time to write it all).”

That would be greatly appreciated! I too, was going to ask a similar question, asking for an example of what Blackaby has said/written about God’s will that is dangerous and unbiblical.


19. Adam J.
January 18, 2007
10:42 AM

“I really do need to address God’s will in a series of posts. Perhaps I’ll try to tackle that in a week or two (when I have some time to write it all).”

For those that struggle with this or are interested in reading more, I highly recommend “Decision Making and the Will of God” by Garry Friesen. Garry takes a sound bibilical look at this topic, which is often overlooked IMHO.

I look forward to your articles on this Tim!


20. Brian @ voiceofthesheep
January 18, 2007
11:03 AM

Greg Koukl at Stand to Reason also has outstanding material on decision making and the will of God.

You can see Blackaby’s decision-making model here. One of the major problems I see (as one who has gone through the training) is that in Blackaby’s model, 75% of the way God supposedly speaks is subjective (prayer, circumstances and the church)and 25% is objective (the Bible).

It is just such a fuzzy, inward, emotional, personal experience format for trying to ‘hear’ God speak. As my pastor said a couple of weeks ago, we’d be a lot better off if we would focus on God’s revealed will, instead of spending so much time trying to figure out His secret will.


21. Dan Evans
January 18, 2007
5:24 PM

Hi Tim,

Concerning all the questions about “Decision Making and the Will of God” I agree with Adam J that Friesen’s book is very good, but another good one is “Step by Step: Divine Guidance for Ordinary Christians” by James Petty from the Christian Counseling and Education Foundation of Philadelphia (associated with Westminster Theological Seminary). I will be teaching an 8 week course on Divine Guidance from this book at our church beginning in the next few weeks.

Tim, Maybe you could do a book review on it.

Grace and Peace, Dan Evans


22. Rachel M.
January 20, 2007
7:32 PM

Personally, I recommend “The Fire Within” by Thomas Dubay. But maybe that’s just me.


23. Aaron
January 21, 2007
10:59 PM

Having also read Phil’s book, I have to say I disagree that Phil’s portrayal of his encounters with Blackaby and Nouwen could be problematic, whatever one believes about Blackaby or Nouwen. From my perspective, it appeared that Phil was most affected by the stories of Abraham nearly sacrificing Isaac, the Shunammite woman, a realization that although Noah achieved great things through building the ark, he simply followed God during the first 500 years of his life, and that “vision” in “without vision the people perish” is not a 21st century puish to have a vision statement as it is about waiting for a vision from God. Blackaby helped him focus on Samuel’s story. Nouwen helped him realize the people around him were more important than mass producing children’s media—and would probably have a more lasting effect.

All in all, a good, humorous read, whatever your theological leanings. I hope more will take a chance to enjoy it and enter in the conversation.


24. Steve
January 22, 2007
2:57 AM

While I don’t pretend to vilifiy, or pay homage to any particular set of authors, priests, ministers, or preachers….I find that I tend to agree with “Greg from BC”, in form if not in content.

I have listened to, and read about TULIP, and Armininism; Calvinism and Reformed theology. I have heard and studied the sermons from the “greats” of both sides, and from multiple dozens of other trains of thought. Like many other times, I figure this post will go unrecognised, and passed over, as well.

Primarily because we…christians, operate under the idea that teachings we hear; that conform so closely to our own ideas, must therefore be correct. I draw this next analogy from the Foodnetwork….as odd as that might sound. Specifically, from the “Throwdown with Bobby Flay”. Bobby’s intention is not to dishearten or defeat the chef he challenges…but rather to make this chef step beyond his normal boundaries and come up with something new. To challenge himself with an unexpected and difficult task.

We as Christians are just like those challenged chefs. Only, we think that because our challenges are not placed on a platter for judgement, that, that means we are where we ought to be. Our performance is judged by how well we adhere to the rules and regulations of those we consider heros. Unfortunately, that has a tendency to be extra-biblical heros. The discrepencies of five hundred years between what Calvin taught and what scripture teaches is discarded. What Arminius corrected and changed, later on is dismissed, and still not what scripture teaches. At least not fully. The glaring differences between the two, and the fact that neither answer all the questions well, that is up for debate because no one figures they know enough to actually say they have an answer.

Why? Because they don’t. No one does. The answer is not in either, because both require you to adhere to a man’s idea. Because they sought to tell you what God expected. What He does. Who He is. What He thinks.

In spite of the fact that God said these things are not able to be understood by us, were not told to us, and are not what we’re about…these form the basis of the theology most use. No one considers that God was not telling us about Him, or asking us to figure Him out. What His plans were and where they lead. He simply gave us some simple tasks…to do, live, be, and act as children of the living God. To seek and save the lost by telling them of the Good News, that God want’s man to repent and come to Him.

But we cloud that, and contort it. We humanize it and bring it down to our level. We instill it with out knowledge and our understanding, and in doing so, filter all of the Godliness and Holiness right out. We are not servants and humble preists…we are scholars dealing out our vast knowledge of an unknowable God who has revealed little or nothing of Himself in His word, except that which pushes forth His adgenda of reaching and saving the lost. All else is the pride and foolishness of man.


25. Lynn
January 22, 2007
2:12 PM

I believe the true test of a person’s theology is not so much in how well he can intellectually articulate it (though that can be fun!) but rather in how it affects the way he lives. Does our theology move us into a life that honors and glorifies the Lord God and make us look a little more like Jesus? Does what we believe about Him cause us to LOVE better, FORGIVE quickly, SURRENDER all, SERVE and SACRIFICE daily? Having the priviledge of knowing Phil Vischer up close and personal, and watching him walk through the last 17 years or so of his life, I have personally witnessed the transformation of a man through his humble willingness to surrender to the power of God and His Word. Henri and Henry, and others, were brief stops of refreshment and encouragement along a treacherous, but triumphant path of full surrender to the Lordship of Christ in his life. Phil was taught by God not by man…and that is why his life reflects the God he serves. “Me, Myself and Bob” is not a book about theology but about surrender and being born anew by the Spirit of God from a life of self and self-directed ambition to a life that looks, well…….more like Jesus.


26. Cristina Irizarry Santiago
January 30, 2007
3:09 PM

I really dont see what the big deal is with the whole theology aspect of the book. Whats wrong with wanting to live at the center of God`s will?! I seek it everyday…

Please lets be careful with turning yoo fanatic...Ive come from a fmaily where that has only led others farther from God and who He really is.


27. HT
January 30, 2007
7:43 PM

What the real issue with Veggie Tales and the book is Vischer’s seduction by secular market drivenness that he aimed to compete with. Can we expect God to bless a “dream to compete” with materialistic market driven consumptionism, using Christianese to move product as was the primary aim of Veggie Tales, despite the “values tone” of Vischer? I have greater questions about Phil’s processing of how he aimed to build a Christianese version of child product consumptionism to compete with Disney, et. al. Certainly that can’t be in God’s will or interest, can it?