Today I want to point to just a couple of items that have been waiting in my Bookmarks folder.
Boring Sermons
At a recent post on her blog, Deb Burton says this: “Your child thinks Sunday morning sermons are boring. The pastor is just another talking head, like all those grown-up shows with political pundits. His body language shows it. You think the pastor is right on the money - he’s biblical, he’s topical, and he has a decent presentation.” And she is pretty well right, at least as my children go. They love and respect the pastors at our church but don’t have much interest in listening to their sermons.
Aileen and I have varied between trying to force them to sit properly while keeping their eyes focused on the front to bringing notebooks and allowing them to just write or color or whatever catches their fancy, provided they sit reasonably still. We have sometimes rejoiced at what they have drawn from the sermon and at other times despaired at what has passed them by. I am always eager to hear what other parents do and how they try to coax some tangible benefit from the sermon on behalf of their children. And so I’d like to ask, how do you, as parents, engage your children in the sermon?
What Africa Gives
I’ve been reading with some interest a series of articles written by Kevin Myers and printed in Ireland’s The Independent. While he is harsh in his judgments and while he is seemingly something of a curmudgeon, he is also refreshingly honest and counter-cultural, I think. He raises some issues that on the outside seem so black and white but, upon further reflection, become far more difficult. At the very least I think his columns are worthy of some consideration.
In his first article, he says, with a bit of hyperbole, that Africa is giving nothing to anyone — apart from AIDS. He wonders at the usefulness of sending aid to African nations and points to the example of Ethiopia. You remember, I’m sure, how in the mid-80’s the Western world rallied to send aid to Ethiopia to save her starving children. That assistance allowed Ethiopia to surge in population from 33.5 million to 78 million in just those few short years. Myers says, “Unlike most of you, I have been to Ethiopia; like most of you, I have stumped up the loot to charities to stop starvation there. The wide-eyed boy-child we saved, 20 years or so ago, is now a priapic, Kalashnikov-bearing hearty, siring children whenever the whim takes him. There is, no doubt a good argument why we should prolong this predatory and dysfunctional economic, social and sexual system; but I do not know what it is. There is, on the other hand, every reason not to write a column like this.”
His concerns are many.
Africa’s peoples are outstripping their resources, and causing catastrophic ecological degradation. By 2050, the population of Ethiopia will be 177 million: The equivalent of France, Germany and Benelux today, but located on the parched and increasingly protein-free wastelands of the Great Rift Valley.
So, how much sense does it make for us actively to increase the adult population of what is already a vastly over-populated, environmentally devastated and economically dependent country?
How much morality is there in saving an Ethiopian child from starvation today, for it to survive to a life of brutal circumcision, poverty, hunger, violence and sexual abuse, resulting in another half-dozen such wide-eyed children, with comparably jolly little lives ahead of them? Of course, it might make you feel better, which is a prime reason for so much charity. But that is not good enough.
As the “begging bowl” is passed to the West one more time and as African nations come looking for foreign assistance (assistance that is necessary should they wish to avoid widespread famine), Myers asks “why on earth should I do anything to encourage further catastrophic demographic growth in that country? Where is the logic? There is none.”
Needless to say, this article ignited a good deal of criticism. In a second article he justifies his first. And again, he raises interesting issues of morality.
Ethiopia has effectively gained the entire population of the United Kingdom since the famine. But at least 80pc of Ethiopian girls are circumcised, meaning that no less than 24 million girls suffered this fate, usually without anaesthetics or antiseptic. The UN estimates that 12pc of girls die through septicaemia, spinal convulsions, trauma and blood-loss after circumcision which probably means that around three million little Ethiopian girls have been butchered since the famine — roughly the same as the number of Jewish women who died in the Holocaust.
So what is the moral justification for saving a baby from death through hunger, in order to give her an even more agonising, almost sacrificial, death aged eight or 13? The practice could have been stamped out, with sufficient political will, as sutti in India once was. And the feminists of the west would never have allowed such unconditional aid to be given to such a wicked and brutal society if it had been run by white men.
But, instead, the state was run by black males, for whom a special race-and-gender dispensation apparently applies: thus the two most politically incorrect sins of our age — sexism and racism — by some mysterious moral process, akin to the mathematics of the double-negative, annul one another, and produce an unquestioned positive virtue, called Ethiopia.
This next paragraph has haunted me since I read it:
I am not innocent in all this. The people of Ireland remained in ignorance of the reality of Africa because of cowardly journalists like me. When I went to Ethiopia just over 20 years ago, I saw many things I never reported — such as the menacing effect of gangs of young men with Kalashnikovs everywhere, while women did all the work. In the very middle of starvation and death, men spent their time drinking the local hooch in the boonabate shebeens. Alongside the boonabates were shanty-brothels, to which drinkers would casually repair, to briefly relieve themselves in the scarred orifice of some wretched prostitute (whom God preserve and protect). I saw all this and did not report it, nor the anger of the Irish aid workers at the sexual incontinence and fecklessness of Ethiopian men. Why? Because I wanted to write much-acclaimed, tear-jerkingly purple prose about wide-eyed, fly-infested children — not cold, unpopular and even “racist” accusations about African male culpability.
The population surge in an area that cannot sustain such numbers is leading to inevitable trouble. “We are heading towards a demographic holocaust, with a potential premature loss of life far exceeding that of all the wars of the 20th Century. This terrible truth cannot be ignored.”
Myers does not suggest that we allow African children to simply starve, as if this would be pragmatically moral. Rather, he writes all of this to make the world aware of the complexity of the various possible responses. “I am lost in awe at the dreadful options open to us. This is the greatest moral quandary facing the world. We cannot allow the starving children of Ethiopia to die.”
Why do I write about his columns? Simply because I feel he points to an issue that quickly dissolves from black and white into various shades of gray. There is often much more to an issue than it may seem at first. There must be a better way of dealing with the coming crises in Africa.





Comments (33) »
1. Stephen
August 1, 2008
9:59 AM
My wife and I have four boys, ages 2, 4, 6, and 8. We ask the 6- and 8-year-old children to try to either write or draw two or three things the pastor says. The 4-year-old is asked to sit quietly without disruption, sometimes coloring the back of the bulletin, and it’s enough just to keep the 2-year-old quiet. We’ve found that the oldest two get far more out of the service than we remember getting at that age.
2. Stephen Murray
August 1, 2008
10:21 AM
Myer’s articles do show up the ‘gray’ in a big way. It is an extremely complicated situation. My concern is that Christians, even those in Africa, are not really looking carefully at the options open to us for the future. There is a growing minority who are involved in various mercy ministries and NGO’s around the continent but by and large the church hasn’t tackled the issue. That at least is the sense I get from reading about the church in the US and my impression from the local church here in South Africa.
Stephen Murray
Cape Town, South Africa
3. Steve
August 1, 2008
10:31 AM
For our kids at least we always found that if we let them do other things (draw, read,etc…) they seemed to retain the most stressed parts of the sermon. They always appeared to not be listening, but when we got home and discussed the main topic around the table during lunch, they would invariably repeat the lesson learned. It always amazed me what they “heard” while they were not “listening!”
4. Bruce
August 1, 2008
10:44 AM
Our situation is Africa is caused by a common disease in the West—a desire to solve everything with money. We have assumed that any social problem—African starvation, crime, poor school performance, even parents’ lack of time spent with kids—can be solved by throwing more money at the problem. But, money is simply a resource and, in a fallen world, that money is often used in sin. This has been shown countless times.
We can only solve these problems by bringing them fully into the light of day and being very careful to designate and monitor how resources are used to reach our clearly defined goals.
5. MzEllen
August 1, 2008
10:51 AM
We always let our kids “doodle”. With my daughter especially, her ears work better if her hands are busy. When she was doodling, many times she could recite big chunks fo the sermon word for word.
On Africa. Regardless of how we feel about birth control, the population simply cannot be increased even more without the ability to sustain itself. Gray area? Absolutely.
Can we allow the children to starve? Boarding schools might be the answer - even for women. Set up Christian boarding schools (many parts of the world have boarding schools and they’re not necessarily a bad thing) to teach women to be self-sufficient and productive and to teach their children to sustain themselves as adults. Feed them very well as long as they’re at the school. The possible results:
1) men would have to learn to do the work
2) women would be educated and fed
3) children would be educated and fed
4)women would be living separately from men and less likely to multiply the population.
The schools would have to be voluntary (nobody would be forced to stay), yet the pressure would be on to stay, or food would be limited to what is on the street.
Coerced…maybe. But in the long run, forced education is better than what they’ve got going on now. In the US and Canada, we force our own kids to go to school…and for many kids, free lunches are the reason parents send them every day.
6. BrianG
August 1, 2008
10:52 AM
Myer’s article is eye-opening, and it exposes a truth about the level of moral degradation humanity can achieve. The thing that must be kept in mind is that those starving children, are just that… children. They are innocent, and have not committed the crimes which they MIGHT be guilty of in the future. They have enormous value and have it for NO OTHER REASON than the fact that they were created in the image of God. Using ‘Quality of Life’ arguments i.e. “why save a child that is going to have a terrible life”, is the same argument that pro-abortion advocates use in the Western world to justify ending unborn life. Consider that carefully when examining the work of journalists who might stray too far with this line of reasoning.
7. Kwame Nyarko
August 1, 2008
1:02 PM
In as much as this journalist ends by saying he is not advocating that ‘we’ allow the starving children in Ethiopia to die, I am still very very much amazed that one can sit and pen such words (his previous statements) down.
Maybe it’s because I’ve not seen what Myers has seen and I don’t understand. However the little that i know based on living with many Ethiopian and other African orphans (and two of them very closely) for 2 years in a boarding institution, I am surprised that this:
“So what is the moral justification for saving a baby from death through hunger, in order to give her an even more agonising, almost sacrificial, death aged eight or 13?”
can be said. I have heard of situations that were only going from bad to worse but by God’s grace changed to good. As someone has stated, this type of thinking is similar to that of pro-abortion advocates. It is only God who knows what will actually happen to that baby by age 8 or 13 and not any man. As men, who think we know it all and can analyze and reach an ‘almighty’ conclusion pertaining to everything, God’s wisdom will always be foolishness to us. I pray we don’t think we know it all.
We can all say that Myers has something to say about Africa and Ethiopia in particular. As often referred to as the forgotten continent, I and many others, are thankful that he spends his time writing about Africa and her sons and daughters. Whether his points are helpful to those that are actually in need, or are helpful in alleviating the obvious needs in Africa, only God knows.
However, I would share my major concern based on two points
1. That Africans think there is the need for foreign aid to solve the problems on the continent
2. That Foreigners think that Africa needs their donations to solve the problems of Africans.
Please don’t misunderstand me because I am not saying these donations should stop, but rather that this mentality (both ways) only feeds a cycle of one-sided dependence that if not stopped (the mentality) will only delay whatever solution could (Lord willing) come out of the donations. Isn’t this unending pattern of give give give getting old?
I don’t think foreign aid is absolutely needed to solve the problems on the whole continent because the continent already has the resources (in all its form and facets) to rectify Africa’s problems. Only God knows when a pulling together (or working apart but cohesively) of African resources will begin, in order to help deal with the woes of this continent.
My prayer and hope for Africa is that this mentality will gradually change. It may take years and years but may we not give up. For this mentality to begin to change, Africa will first and foremost need
1. A true and clear scripture-based understanding of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
With the faith and prosperity gospel coupled with a seeming lack of understanding of biblical doctrines where the prosperity message is not known, bad situations are getting worse.
2. Leadership
I am convinced that leadership will have a huge part to play in this renewal of mind. Leadership that will not be completely corrupt and selfish in all it’s agendas, will help.
I would say with an educated people who will work that they may eat, instead of waiting that they may be fed, the donations from the West and beyond, can add to what can be done to help Africa and its starving people in the long run. In the short run, I pray that whatever available help can save lives and that the best comes out of these lives saved.
May God help us all, Amen!
KAN
8. michael
August 1, 2008
1:07 PM
Separating the men and women by force (call it coersion if you like). Biblical?
Allowing the children to die. Biblical?
Sending more money. Biblical?
My point is this, you must find a Biblical answer to the problem, not just a “make the American feel better” answer. What is that answer, well, it’s longer than a blog comment and I’m certain it will take more effort. Try this though, REACH THE MEN WITH THE GOSPEL! Men, no matter the country are the problem and the answer as far as leadership goes. Teach them the Gospel and how to lead as God has shown us in His word. Then pray fanatically for conversions. True, life changing, heart altering conversions. Apart from this, the women and children are doomed to their current fate no matter how much education, money, or anything else we throw at them.
9. Sharon
August 1, 2008
1:25 PM
We’re with Stephan — our tactics vary with our kids ages (baby, 2, 5 and 11). Our 11-yr-old takes better notes than me! But, for the younger ones, we’re convinced that they’re getting TONS of benefits from sitting through the sermon, even if they don’t “hear” much of it — i.e. the value of the preached Word and our submission to it.
10. Flora
August 1, 2008
1:34 PM
The cynicism expressed in the Kevin Myers’ articles is typical of the response I received when I tried to tell some of my rich relatives in Scotland about my son-in-law’s work and need of support. He flies missionaries, doctors aid-workers etc into Sudan, with Mission Aviation Fellowship.
Our Western culture is ‘cruising’ on the influence of previous generations of Christians and the ‘common grace’ that God so graciously gives. If He removes His Hand of blessing and how we deserve it, we are capable of similar depravity - What happened yesterday,on a bus in Manitoba , when a young man was stabbed and decapitated in front of horrified fellow passengers, should remind us of this fact.
As Michael says above, only the Gospel and conversions will make any change in Africa or anywhere else.
11. Stan
August 1, 2008
1:35 PM
When I was a kid, I complained to my parents that the sermon was boring and didn’t make much sense. So they handed me pen and paper and told me, “Write down what you don’t get and we’ll discuss it afterward.” Great! Now I’m forced to listen AND take notes.
12. Jenny
August 1, 2008
2:52 PM
I just got back from a short term mission trip to Malawi, and I understand a little of Myer’s frustration. There is no quick fix for Africa because like all the other continents, it is populated by sinners who need the saving grace of Christ. Colonialism, tribalism, big man politics, Marxism, Islam, and natural and man-made disasters have taken their toll on the entire continent over the last 100 plus years. Africa needs Christians who are diligently seeking to follow Christ, making disciples and promoting integrity and justice. Many are there already; pray for their growth and impact.
13. Chris Larson
August 1, 2008
2:55 PM
At the Sunday lunch table, we have offered a small candy for each child up to their age for every point or fact of the sermon that they can recall.
14. Larry Geiger
August 1, 2008
3:29 PM
My two boys were always required to participate in all elements of the service. They sat quietly when sitting was appropriate, they rose and stood with us when standing was appropriate, and as soon as they could, they sang with us. However, we allowed them to zone out and sometimes draw during the sermon time. They seemed to be like Steve’s kids, even though they seemed distracted during the sermon, they also seemed to be picking up more than we thought.
I personally believe, from observation, that parents should encourage more participation and not allow the children full run of the pew during the entire service. This seems to be the practice now a days.
Calvary Chapels do not allow children in the service after the praise music time. I have been to a few of their services, and I have to say that I like it that way. There are very few distractions and the entire congregation was attentive. I sometimes think that we try to do too much in a single, one hour service each week. Teach the flock, speak to unbelievers, train children, worship, commune, sing, etc. all at the same time.
15. Chris
August 1, 2008
4:13 PM
On Africa: I think you’re right, Tim, to at least allude to the fact that it is part of a Christian’s calling to be actively concerned about such plights.
I think aid—financially or otherwise—from the church is warranted. That’s not so gray. Sacrificial giving is part and parcel of the church’s mission. It’s a little more gray when we start talking about what our (non-theocratic) governments ought to do in response. And to that, I have only an inkling of an answer: there are plenty of social services children and single mothers need on this side of the Atlantic, and their needs, it seems to me, had better be attended to first.
16. Kristy
August 1, 2008
4:26 PM
We raised our children to sit in church from a early age. They have been taught to sit still. When they were younger we let them draw. They seemed to pick up on points of the sermon even when they didn’t appear to listen. Also, we believe that the father, as the spiritual leader of the home, should lead in family worship for at least 5 to 10 minutes. This helps them to learn to listen and mimics what church is all about. As they learn at home to listen and respect dad as he leads, they will learn to listen and respect the pastor as he teaches.
17. Jay Fontanini
August 1, 2008
4:36 PM
Maybe it goes without saying for readers of your blog, but first and foremost, for children to get something out of the sermon, they need to be in Worship, not in a “Children’s Church” program that cuts them off from the means of grace. Since faith comes by hearing, our desire should be to have them listening.
Help your children be active in worship by preparing yourself. Review the sermon text before Worship and select a few key words that you know the preacher will be saying a lot in the sermon. Then, encourage your child to squeeze your finger or use some other silent signal to let you know every time he hears the words. It may sound like a game, but he will hear more than just the key words, and so will you.
Many parents despair over themselves not getting as much out of the sermon as they focus on their children. Perhaps it is true that you will hear less, but which of us would not prefer to have our children hearing the Word of God?
Finally, the best way to prepare your children to worship on Sunday is to worship throughout the week at home as a family. Prayer, singing of hymns and psalms, and the reading and discussion of Scripture will bear fruit in multiple ways, one of which is their ability to be engaged in and enjoy worship. In contrast, don’t be surprised with inattentiveness if you only place them under the extending teaching of the Word once per week.
18. Steve 2
August 1, 2008
5:40 PM
Perhaps it’s the model of children’s church as it’s typically done that’s the problem for those that don’t like it as an alternative to the “adult” worship service?
What if children’s church included all of the elements of “regular” church service (songs, prayers, Scripture reading, sermon, offering, etc.)?
I offer that merely as an idea; it may or may not be a good one.
19. Jason Robertson
August 1, 2008
6:08 PM
Since I do the preaching, I try not to be boring! One of the ways I have remedied that is to be cognitively aware that I have a mixed audience to which God is speaking through the means of preaching, and all should be addressed.
Thus I always try to verbally address the youth or children at appropriate points throughout my sermon, either with effective eye contact, verbal address, or something that may just come to me.
Voice inflections, friendly facial disposition, good use of humor that all ages can laugh at are all important skills a speaker should hone.
As for kids in general, I have found that the closer that they sit to the front the better they listen. This is probably true because there are less distractions, as well as a greater sense of being part of what is happening on the chancel.
If all else fails, give a child time to mature into corporate worship. Eventually he/she will. And it is better for them if they want to be there than if they are forced.
20. Jim
August 1, 2008
8:20 PM
There is not a population problem in Africa. God commanded mankind to go forth and “multiply.” Many African families still do this, and westerners pass judgement upon them because most westerners have decided that children are not a blessing, no matter what God says. The problem is not with population, but with the fact that much of the population is unregenerate and unrestrained by God’s common grace in certain areas.
21. Kathie M. Thomas
August 1, 2008
9:54 PM
Our church has children’s church so there are always activities and lessons happening at their own level, rather than making them sit in church with the adults. We do have services that include the whole family throughout the year but for the most part, the children are celebrating, worshipping and learning in an environment that was designed for their particular age group and understanding.
22. Mary
August 1, 2008
11:10 PM
My boys 6, 8 and 10 bring their Bibles so they can look up the passage and follow along. My 10yo writes great notes and the younger 2 will often copy out a verse from the text. When we get home from church, morning and evening, they take turns reading the text and then share what they have written. I am always amazed with what they remember and how it often complements what dad has been teaching at home. I can’t imagine having them in a SS class and everybody hearing a different message. Our minister is great at addressing them throughout the message and defining some of the difficult words from the songs and sermon. Unfortunately our 4yo has trained himself to sleep through both Sunday services. We’ll have to work on him. Glad you asked the question, Tim. I enjoy hearing what other people do.
23. Chris Brauns
August 1, 2008
11:13 PM
I like what Jason said on two counts. As the guy preaching, I try not to be boring. And, I think it helps the kids to sit closer to the front.
I interact fairly often with the children … If I am preaching from a narrative text, I might ask them to fill in a couple of details early on in the sermon. It always amazes me how some “doodling” child (including one of my own) will immediately raise their hands.
My kids know that I’m going to ask them after church: “What was the central thought of the sermon?” I ask that more to evaluate my preaching then to evaluate their listening. But, I think it is good to teach even little children to look for the “bullet,” i.e. “Tell me in one sentence what the pastor said.”
If they learn to sit quietly, I think that is a great beginning. And, they’ll learn more than you would expect.
24. Jerod
August 2, 2008
12:03 AM
Tim,
I just recently (within the last year) wrote a quick entry in my blog regarding my children and church. I have one boy of 6, one girl of 4 and one girl of 2. A book that was very helpful for my wife and myself was Parenting In the Pew by Robbie Castleman. The book is very practical and focuses on trying to actually get your kids to pay attention rather than to just sit their and try to get through another boring sermon.
I hope this helps.
By the way I have been leading a morning mens group at church and we are currently working through your book. It has caused some very good discussions and I look forward to the rest of our study.
Thanks,
Jerod Foss
25. David West
August 2, 2008
2:34 AM
Until recently we had our children in the main service with us. This is difficult at times, but by 2 years our children (we have four) have all been able to sit still for the service. The most trying has been 12-18 months, as they are busy, noisy, and don’t understand your correction. Between 18-24 months we find they are able to start sitting quietly, although we may have to stand up in back with them or take them out for a few minutes. When we do, it is not to let them run around, but to talk to them about the importance of sitting still and being quiet in church. When they are old enough to read, we have allowed them to read the Bible while listening to the sermon. I like so many ideas that others have posted and will be discussing some with my wife.
About 8 months ago we started attending a church which has a Children’s program during the main service. This caused us a little turmoil as we had trained them to be with the adults. Since they will one day be adult worshippers, this modeling is powerful. I wonder if youth who rarely attend an adult service know how to worship as and with adults when they turn 18? The program at our current church is for ages through 9 years and is doctrinally rich, Christ exalting, and mostly run by parents who understand the needs of children and parents alike.
We are happy to send our children (the 2 yo is still with us and the 4,7,9 are in the kids program) and looking forward to our oldest joining the adults soon and possibly implemening some of the ideas posted here.
26. Nathan W. Bingham
August 2, 2008
6:38 AM
Both my girls are very young, so this is something that I will need to tackle in the coming years. I appreciate your sincerity in asking for guidance Tim.
It is encouraging that most comments are that children pick up more of the sermon than adults generally give them credit for, but the comment that stood out the most for me was from Jay Fontanini. Thanks Jay for such a detailed comment with some really practical tips.
27. Hillary
August 2, 2008
9:16 AM
Bruce wrote,
I just came back from a disaster affected area and heard of stories where money aggravated instead of helped the disaster recovery effort.
That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t donate though, there is definitely a need for foreign aid. Just choose which organization or missionary you’re donating to wisely and prayerfully.
28. Scott Brown
August 2, 2008
1:55 PM
Tim, I applaud your devotion to engaging your children in the blessed experience of worship and preaching in the church. As you imply, we should have confidence knowing that children get something out of everything they experience. So we should abandon the idea that “my child gets nothing out of ‘big’ church.” Plus, nobody gets everything out of anything, particularly a sermon. I would like to suggest that even though over the last 50 years we have adopted this practice (age segregation), there is no biblical basis for age segregation in worship. It is easy to prove the principle of age integration from scripture, but almost impossible to be conclusive about age segregation using scripture alone. There is great value for a very young child experiencing the deep and authentic worship of the church. Something is being transferred as they hear the preaching, experience the worship and prayer and thy give of the family resources during the offering. As they grow up, their understanding will increase. They don’t get everything, but they can get something from observing the fervency and genuineness of the church’s expression of love for God, dependence upon Him, and joy in Him. Children progressively understand what a parent and the wider church family loves and appreciates. It is the cumulative effect of year after year, as their well is filling up with the sweet water of the knowledge of God.
29. Ian Vaillancourt
August 2, 2008
2:54 PM
Quick note re: kids and listening. My kids are too young, but as a pastor I’ve found John and Noel Piper’s little pamphlet ‘The Family: Together in God’s Presence’ very helpful. Noel has some amazing tips and John has some amazing rationalle for trying to get kids to sit through sermons by age six or so. A six year old at church began drawing pictures of words she heard me say when she was five. Now she is on to writing words she heard me say. She usually approaches me after the PM service to show me. They are sometimes really cute (e.g. when she drew an ant because I said ‘antichrist’…and her drawings of me complete with glasses crack me up), but as time has gone on I’ve seen her really start to pick up some key words. Last week I talked with her about how much of a blessing it is that she gets to hear about Jesus so often, when most of the kids at school do not. She is really starting to ‘get’ some things. But the pamphlet and master it! I hope my two year old will be up for it in a few years. They also advocate getting kids excited re: baptisms, testimonies, missionaries, etc. really good stuff.
Ian.
30. Reg Schofield
August 3, 2008
12:01 PM
The west is guilty of many things and one is the attention deficit celebrity disorder that happens all the time. We move from one horrific story to the next in a blink of an eye . Thinking that some how just throwing money at the problem will solve it . In essence we believe in the overall goodness of man , and if we can just educate them enough , have clean water etc.. that it will all get better. Didn’t Bob Geldof even lament how little has changed . Well unless man has a change in heart , and the gospel of Jesus Christ takes hold of a dead wretched sinner , who is able to do all sorts of evil , and in that I condemn myself , than regardless of how much changes , the depravity of the human will remain. During the great revivals , it has been pointed out that many vices almost stopped completely because the hearts and affections of men changed towards those of God. This is one thing we need to pray for , a revival in Africa and that God would send missionaries to preach the gospel. Secondly we need to place our money very strategically , I have been told that it is far better to sponsor a child than to give money in general and lastly , we need the western governments to turn off the tap , regardless of what Pope Bono tells us , if those in charge do not play by our rules. But first and foremost Africa needs the gospel because a transformed man will become a protector and defender of the down trodden , then watch what could happen because with God all things are possible , there is still hope .
31. Darren
August 4, 2008
5:32 PM
I’m with the other pastors who chimed in…I’m boring?! It can’t be. Although we don’t need to go out of our way to segregate, I am very comfortable having my 6yo and 2yo in a solid teaching time where they are learning something more foundational than what I am preaching on in the next room. Kids can certainly be trained to sit through the sermon but that’s not the goal. For families who dedicate themselves to training their kids in Scripture and Worship every other day of the week, it is OK to place them in the hands of qualified brothers for 45 minutes.
That being said, we preachers could go out of our way to make it easier on the 6yo. If I can take the time to make sermon notes or powerpoints, then I can take the time to make kids notes. Here is the idea (and my wife helps with this): take the central verse and encrypt it on the notes. The kids work on decoding the verse and they learn the verse in a better way. Also having a word search with longer terms is a way to familiarize themselves with a word. Also, the kids look for code words in the sermon. As I transition from point A to point B I quickly give the code word which sets the kids off for their next clues, which of course are related to the sermon. It just takes time but is worth the reward.
32. desean jones
August 4, 2008
7:22 PM
I’m a single mom with a 5 year old. I find that the more instruction she has at home the more she connects with in the sermon. We read the Bible at Breakfast and supper; we do our memory verses, the Nicene Creed and the Communion message every day.
The pastor was talking about Ps 51 and mentioned David and Bathsheba and she said “oh, King George and the Duckie” - from Veggie Tales. Many times she will act as tho she is just sitting there and in her mind a million miles away or ‘writing’ in her notebook and the pastor will use a Scripture that we’ve read or memorized and she immediately responds.
dj
33. Francois Viljoen
August 9, 2008
8:56 AM
I found this post incredibly thought provoking.
I’ve also been to Africa. I lived in Nigeria for two years. I also saw things that just left me feeling “what’s the point?”.
I cannot offer any solutions, except to say that we are here to live a life that firstly brings glory to God, and secondly to love those around us.
Loving someone does not always mean giving them something. Sometimes giving can even be harmful ( http://liberta.co.za/blog/financial-freedom-quick-tip-14-watch-out-for-harmful-helping/ ), and like you mentioned, more to make the giver feel good than to help the people being given to.
But non the less, we are called to love, whether this makes a difference, or not.
Francois