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05/31/06
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Wednesday Ramblings

Michaela is four weeks old today. Last night was the first time since her birth that I experienced the combination of a bad sleep followed by an early awakening. She and I sat in the way-too-hot living room (we’re in the midst of an early heat wave) for a few hours this morning as she tried to sleep and I tried to find something worth watching since my eyes were far too heavy to read the systematic theology book I’m working my way through. Needless to say, there are slim pickings in the early morning hours, but I did find some interesting religious programming. Here are a few mostly cynical lessons I learned this morning while watching the religious programming available to me (something I have not had opportunity to do since my three-year old was about Michaela’s age):

  • Beth Moore has the biggest, most expressive eyes I’ve ever seen. Her eyes are like dinner plates and are constantly changing with her always-impassioned preaching teaching. I think Moore is perceived to have more credibility than many other teachers because she uses terms like “the present participle.” She digs into the Greek and tries to do some level of exegesis on her texts. Unfortunately, as others have pointed out (see an excellent review of one of her books at Modern Reformation) and as I’ve seen in my brief experiences of reading her books and curricula, she tends towards the mystical and experiential. “Basically she says, don’t let theology and doctrine confuse you when you can figure it out with God for yourself in a way that works for you.” There are far worse teachers out there, but there are also better ones. And of course there’s the issue of her being a female preacher teacher.
  • When a church is composed almost entirely of white people, the cameras will continually zoom in on the one or two black people in the congregation. When a church is composed almost entirely of black people, the cameras will continually zoom in one the one or two white people in the congregation. And speaking of cameras, if you’ve ever been at a church where they record footage of the congregation, you’ll know how difficult it is to worship God while a camera is pointed in your direction.
  • The hosts of “Lifeline” affirmed that it is an evil generation that seeks for a sign, yet they spent their entire program asking some young preacher all about the signs he has experienced. There was no mention of the message he preaches. They spoke only about signs and wonders, often insisting that these have all been verified and documented. As they spoke to him, gold dust began appearing on his clothes. Apparently this is a common occurrence for him. A university in Scotland once tested this gold dust and found it was purer than 24 karat gold. However, it is a heavenly substance so although it usually looks like gold, it is often a different substance altogether, so don’t try testing it on your own. He also has emerald dust appear on or around him and this portends a financial miracle. Jewels falling from the sky (which don’t hurt when they hit your head) are also a common sign from God. God once even turned a cup of hotel water into “wine” which is actually a heavenly beverage he can only barely describe, though he did provide a photograph. And, of course, everything he does is directly commanded by the voice of God.
  • Some self-styled prophets think nothing of reading passages from their own books and concluding with “this is the word of God.” The mere thought of reading my own writing and announcing “this is the word of God” terrifies me! And well it should.
  • The King James Version of the Bible is the refuge of many of the most heretical teachers. It seems odd, but I suppose they feel this version lends a certain credibility to their ministry. I have a feeling that a person who sells gives away “miracle olive oil soap” has really worked his way through the issues surrounding the biblical texts and has determined that the King James is superior to other translations.
  • Joyce Meyer has reinvented herself. She no longer storms across a stage barking at the audience about their failures. She now sits sedately discussing issues of health and wellness.

I had to conclude that “Christian” television is no better now than it was three years ago even in the absence of Benny Hinn and Robert Tilton.

I was speaking with my sister this morning and were talking about having our daughters, both of whom are three, begin to send each other letters. They both love to dig the mail from our mailboxes, but there is never any mail addressed to them. Maryanne mentioned that she never gets personal letters anymore, and truth be told, neither do I. In fact, the only personal letters I ever receive are ones from long-lost friends asking me to support their most recent ministry venture. Email is a pretty poor substitute for a good old fashioned letter, especially when every letter I receive just asks me for money.

Denny Burk, who serves as assistant professor of New Testament at Criswell College in Dallas, has an excellent article at BP News. He writes about Brian McLaren’s statement about Da Vinci Code. McLaren said, “Frankly, I don’t think it has more harmful ideas in it than the Left Behind novels.” Burk responds: “The more I hear from emerging church leader Brian McLaren, the more I fear he is not competent to be a leader of God’s people…The problem with what McLaren says here is that he cannot (or will not) distinguish what is malignant from what is benign. No one goes to hell merely for believing dispensational premillenialism, a theology of the end times that is portrayed in the ‘Left Behind’ novels. Yet anyone who denies the deity of Jesus most certainly will, and this is precisely what is argued in ‘The Da Vinci Code.’ You don’t have to like dispensational premillenialism to see that its teachings about the end times do not come anywhere close to the damning heresy reflected in ‘The Da Vinci Code.’ Any pastor that cannot (or will not) see that isn’t competent to hold the office.” You can read the article here.

Finally, I apologize to those of you who do not enjoy book reviews. My wife pointed out to me that I have posted quite a few lately. That is true and yet I have a couple more to do. I’ve been reading a lot lately and have accumulated a list of books that I need to review while I can still remember what they are about!

Wednesday Ramblings

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1. Jeri
May 31, 2006
10:41 AM

Sometimes those sleepless nights can be pretty conducive to wise insight!

When I hear enthusiasm for Beth Moore I always think about Kay Arthur, who I like very much but who doesn’t get the press Beth Moore does. And when I hear about Joyce Meyer I really think about Kay Arthur.


2. candyinskerras
May 31, 2006
10:49 AM

I am so repulsed by Christian T.V. My husband checks it out once in awhile but I absolutely cringe when it is on. What a circus!


3. Greg Smith
May 31, 2006
10:51 AM

Seriously, how can people not like your book reviews? I love them. I cannot count the times I have been to the Discerning Reader site in the short time you’ve had it up. I wish there were more reviews, not less. I also enjoy you insights on most of the subjects you write about.


4. Brian Thornton
May 31, 2006
10:54 AM

My daughter, Rachel (10), absolutely loves to receive mail. Thankfully, my Mom is very good at frequently sending our children cards addressed to them personally.

What a great idea to have you and your Sister’s children write to each other. For some reason, I think a hand written note takes more thought than something pounded out on a keyboard (no offense to all those who get their worth from their internet presence).


5. c p hall
May 31, 2006
11:08 AM

Tim, Your ramblings brightened my morning, and the dinner plates comment almost made me spit out my coffee.


6. Brian Thornton
May 31, 2006
11:09 AM

For some reason, I think a hand written note takes more thought than something pounded out on a keyboard (no offense to all those who get their worth from their internet presence).

Including myself…


7. Tim Challies
May 31, 2006
11:10 AM

“When I hear enthusiasm for Beth Moore I always think about Kay Arthur, who I like very much but who doesn’t get the press Beth Moore does. And when I hear about Joyce Meyer I really think about Kay Arthur.”

Hmm. Seems to me you’ve got Kay Arthur on the mind. I’m sure there’s a cure for that… :)


8. Ron
May 31, 2006
11:14 AM

I was in China earlier this month. I was flipping channels searching for something in English. Imagine the horror of seeing Creffelo Dollar on the tele. It confirmed my thoughts about him: If China allows him, it certainly isn’t the gospel.


9. Tim H.
May 31, 2006
11:15 AM

I’ve been making an effort to write more handwritten personal letters. As a college student, I love to recieve them myself. I was doing well for a while, but have slacked off lately. Email is just so much easier. :-/


10. Van H. Edwards
May 31, 2006
11:47 AM

Tim, I look forward to your book reviews. I have picked up several books based on your recommendation that I would not have otherwise.

Thanks.


11. WES
May 31, 2006
11:47 AM

I too, have a four week old, battling bad sleep but usually do the early morning 5AM shift but regretfully don’t have cable so I have no Christian TV to throw my boots at. What’s your thoughts on the Babywise stuff, ‘Parent Directed Feeding’ and ‘let ‘em cry cause they are manipulating you’ ‘don’t want to spoil them even when they are < 6 months old’ bit? We think it quite harsh.

I always thought her eyes were like two hypnotic watches bouncing back and forth in and out.

Wes


12. phil
May 31, 2006
12:42 PM

keep the reviews coming!


13. James H
May 31, 2006
1:35 PM

Wes:

I was thinking of my own 5 children having read this post, and what I was thinking was this: why is Tim up late when the child is already 4 weeks old? Funny thing, my wife has trained using the method you’ve spoken of, and we don’t have sleepless nights!

I’m only writing because I thought it was ironic that you and I had the same thought. In any case, Tim, I must say that the dinner plate eyes comment made me guffaw!!

Loved the commentary. Aren’t daughters sweet? I, too, like to watch the Christian TV just to say, “whoah.”

—James H


14. Brian Thornton
May 31, 2006
1:37 PM

Isn’t Babywise the secular name for the Growing Families International stuff (Growing Kids God’s Way) run by the Ezzo’s who used to be members at Grace Community Church?


15. Nancy
May 31, 2006
1:42 PM

Love the reviews. How dare you touch the holy grail of Women’s Ministries :) . Sadly in my experience helping lead Women’s ministries, there are some ladies who will only attend a Bible study if it is a Beth Moore study.


16. Jeri
May 31, 2006
2:11 PM

“Hmm. Seems to me you’ve got Kay Arthur on the mind. I’m sure there’s a cure for that… :)”

A trip to the Discerning Reader website? :)

And speaking of that I forgot to say earlier, and in agreement with Greg above, that the book reviews are invaluable.


17. WES
May 31, 2006
2:17 PM

My orignal message should have said; ‘What’s your thoughts on the Babywise stuff, ‘Parent Directed Feeding’ and ‘let ‘em cry cause they are manipulating you’, ‘don’t want to spoil them even when they are less than 6 months of age’ parenting method? We have found this treatment to be quite harsh on an infant.’

Apparently, Babywise and Ezzo are not the same, http://www.ezzo.info/babywise.htm. I’ve never heard of Ezzo, may check’em out.

Wonder why it didn’t post my last sentence, o well? Sleep deprivation keeps one humble, I guess. (Correction for my last post: 5AM is the late shift not the early shift.)


18. bchallies
May 31, 2006
3:13 PM

I now commit myself to sending mail to my assorted little ones!


19. Blake Law
May 31, 2006
3:15 PM

I’m writing hand letters at least once a week back home to my girlfiend who I’m courting this summer while I’m working at a camp in Texas. Not because i think it’s any better than email or phone calls, but because I just think it will make her happiest—and yeah, I do love getting her letters too! She says we can save them and pull them out in 30 years. She’s right about that—and I’d be astounded if any email I write will be around then


20. Tim Challies
May 31, 2006
3:30 PM

“She says we can save them and pull them out in 30 years.”

That is true! Let’s see you do that with an email!


21. Irish Calvinist
May 31, 2006
3:35 PM

Ron: Nice Creffelo Dollar reference.

I have often thought that if Bunyan would’ve had a televangelist in Pilgrim’s Progress no doubt that would’ve been his name.


22. deborah
May 31, 2006
4:13 PM

Wes,

My husband and I did not use the Babywise book with our first but did with our second. What a difference, #2 slept through the night by 8 weeks, #1 didn’t until 8 months. Having happy, well-rested parents is better for the child. I am curious what you thought to be harsh. I found it to be a gentle guiding of the child’s schedule to match your own.


23. Brian Thornton
May 31, 2006
4:24 PM

Wes…FYI…this is from the first line of the site you referenced above:

Please note: Babywise is the secular version of Ezzo’s Christian church class curriculum, Preparation for Parenting — also known as Along the Infant Way.

For all…please be very cautious of anything coming from the Ezzo’s. There is much documentation on their history. Will be happy to provide it if interested.


24. mpethe
May 31, 2006
4:39 PM

Which systematic book are you working through?

I’ve just started: A New Systematic Theology Of The Christian Faith - by Robert Reymond … like it so far.


25. Tim Challies
May 31, 2006
4:57 PM

“Which systematic book are you working through?”

I have been reading a prerelease copy of “Salvation Belongs to the Lord” by John Frame. It is due out next month and is very good so far.


26. WES
May 31, 2006
6:01 PM

Deborah,

Because of Brian Thornton’s warning message I went and read a couple of reviews on Amazon. Obviously, I did not know the controversy surrounding the Babywise/Ezzo book (duhh, Ezzo is the author….I need a nap). A friend of my wife gave it to us to read. WOW! Hot issue!!!

We found it ‘harsh’ that this author/Ezzo, encouraged parents to sit and watch there 3 week old baby cry themself to sleep so they, the parents, could soon get a full 8 hours of shut eye. Our thought was, our 4 week old boy eats every 3 hours on the dot. So, I guess I ain’t babywise according to ‘Babywise’.

We really don’t know what ‘parenting model’ to go with regarding sleeping through the night. But, sleeping through the night is not our goal in parenting, especially since our boy loves his Mama so much. Right now, loving our baby is our goal.


27. Kenny Archbold
May 31, 2006
6:14 PM

I almost never watch any “Christian” programming but has anyone seen Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron’s show “The Way of The Master”? I was surprised to find very good evangelical teaching from a reformed Calvinist perspective.

I love all the book reviews!


28. Tim Challies
May 31, 2006
6:56 PM

“But, sleeping through the night is not our goal in parenting, especially since our boy loves his Mama so much. Right now, loving our baby is our goal.”

Amen. From what I understand, Ezzo has some good things to say, but he also does a horrible job of integrating Scripture (ie. God forsook Jesus on the cross, thus setting the precedent for parents to forsake their children when they’re crying at night).


29. deborah
May 31, 2006
7:43 PM

I never took the Babywise class, but I don’t remember any scripture references in the book. It is a shame that I gave it back, so I can’t look at it now. We found that the suggested schedules and ideas matched exactly what our pediatrician was telling us to do. We even know of a doctor that gives a copy of the book to every new parent. I rarely let my child cry himself to sleep (was that even in the book?).

What I found the most helpful was the order of sleep, eat, wake-time then put the baby down to fall asleep by himself, without crying. Most people reverse the awake and eating time so the child learns to associate food with sleep. Most of the controversy I have seen regarding the book seems to be from parents who took suggestions as absolutes, and didn’t modify the schedules to fit their child’s or their own needs. There also seems to be an issue with the 2 to 3 hours between feedings, is it from the start of the feeding or end of the feeding to the next one (the answer is the start of the 1st to the start of the next).

If I am being defensive, please forgive me, it is just that the book was so helpful in setting a flexible schedule so we could function. I didn’t force my child to sleep through the night, I just didn’t set the alarm to wake him up. At 8 weeks, he went 7 hours straight. I was a better parent for having that sleep than I was for the first one who didn’t sleep. FYI, both of my children were premies and were small, and the one we didn’t use the book for actually had a failure to gain weight during the first weeks.

Please use whatever method of parenting works for you, and congratulations to those of you with newborns! I miss that time and it goes so fast.


30. Michael Nevarr
May 31, 2006
7:53 PM

Greetings Tim!

I appreciated your comment about having difficulty worshipping the Lord with a TV camera pointed at you. I agree that such “conveniences” sometimes shatter the solemnity and dignity of worship.

At the T4G conference I had a similar experience. In this instance it was with the distraction of a person just a few rows behind me pounding away hyserically on his laptop computer while John Piper was preaching. I know it may seem like a nit pick but the noisy typing was something that was seriously distracting to almost everyone within earshot.

Without a doubt the unfortunate souls who could not attend in person were thankful to have a real-time account of what was being delivered (as I am sure those who watch watching the TV are), but for the people who spent lots of money to be there in person it was an unnecessary annoyance.

Regards, Mike Nevarr


31. r
May 31, 2006
8:39 PM

I am a mom who used Babywise and loved it. Babywise does not in anyway advocate not loving or bonding with your baby. On the other hand it supprts loving your child so much that you are teaching them skills to last a lifetime. In fact if you took the time to actually read the book you would understand that it is not a “scheduale” it is a “routine” there is a differance. I have known mother after mother who have been helped tremendously from this book. My children where sleeping through the night by 8 weeks and were off the charts when it came to thier growth. If sleeping through the night is not your goal for your child then what is? When will it be, when you are so fustrated because your 1 year old still “loves his mama so much” but you can’t sleep in your own bed because you have a third companion in bed, do you think that is good? Please do not judge parents who choose to use a method that has been proven to not only benefit the child but the parents as well.


32. Brian Thornton
May 31, 2006
9:35 PM

For those not familiar with Babywise or Gary Ezzo or Growing Families International…and are considering using materials from this organization, PLEASE take the time to read the information at this link: http://www.ezzo.info/

It is a very comprehensive look at Ezzo and the controversy surrounding him and GFI, even including links to pro-GFI sites.


33. r
June 1, 2006
7:45 AM

Its amazing to me how many people will believe things written about something on the internet and then just dimiss it because of what the “reviews” say. I would hope that individuals who are interested in using the Babywise book would instead ask around to other parents, I believe you would be surprised to find out that more parents have used this routine then you thought.


34. Francisco
June 3, 2006
5:36 PM

a few thoughts 1. I skimmed thru Arthur’s website. I only regret that she has not an statement of faith upfront. Checking her FAQ’s link I can see faithfulness to God’s word. 2. That statement about Dollar was hilarious. 3. Perhaps politics have blinded Mc Laren’s and may explain his dismissal of Left Behind’s novels and empathy towards TDVC. Straw man never dies!