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Friday March 9, 2007

Shepherd’s Conference (VIII)

Every time I’m down here in California, I’m surprised by how much the temperatures fluctuate from day to night. While it is supposed to top out at around eighty degrees by later in the day, right now I’m just about shivering sitting here in the shade. I suppose it must be the humidity that helps moderate the temperatures in the climate I am accustomed to. Either way, it’s pretty chilly right now!

This morning Mark Dever took the pulpit to bring us a message on the book of Daniel. He began by discussing the indigenous threats to our public ministries, threats to our liberties, threats to the free practice of the faith. He spoke of the entrenched secularism of the elites that dismiss the validity of Christianity and the exhausting reality of our addiction to comfort. We live in a culture where condemnation of homosexuality is seen as incitement against homosexuals. Statements denying the truth of other religions are soon to be classified as illegal. Christians, who have long dominated the scene in this nation, are facing the prospect of living in a world that does not give us freedom to state our affirmations and denials. So what do we do at times when we are under pressure as Christians and as Christian pastors when we are told it is illegal to say another religion is false or that homosexuality is wrong?

Of course there are many places in the world where these fears are already realized. Should our lot here in North America become like the lot of Christians around the world, what should we do? To answer this question, he first led us on a brief journey through the first few chapters of Daniel, showing God’s sovereignty through the story. After discussing the typical Sunday School understanding of Daniel as a book pointing to the importance of standing for what we believe, he explained the story differently. The book is primarily an example of what God does with the faithful. The point of the book is that God causes His faithful to survive and in this time and this culture, this is a message pastors need to hear.

He framed the message around briefly exposing three myths (or that’s what he said, but he also provided three anti-myths or three affirmations):

1 - God is our only hope. Daniel exposes the myth of the Godless world. This book shows that all Christians have hope in God. We stand at the mercy of no election, no legislation for God is the Sovereign of this world. His kind faithfulness is the reason for Daniel’s survival and influence. The central feature of this book is not Daniel’s faithfulness as wonderful as that is. Rather, the central feature is God’s faithfulness and this is what we are pointed to again and again throughout the book. To provide one example, we see that temporal power is unmasked in the story of the fiery furnace. At this time where he tries to show his power, He finds out who the true Ruler of the earth is. Nebuchadnezzar has now seen God reveal in his dream and save in the furnace. Later in his life he is once again proud of his power and proud of his reign. When he was made to be like an animal, he learned about the power and sovereignty of God.

Interestingly, at this point Dever broke to provide an evangelistic message. While this may have seemed unusual at a pastor’s conference, the sad truth is that there are unconverted men in the pulpits and Dever felt it wise to call all men to repentance—even pastors.

Returning to Daniel, he sad that the message of these passages in Daniel is to deconstruct the hopes of the people you preach to. Liberate them from lies by your preaching. Take on the errors of pride and the proud human heart and expose their folly. Serve your people by emancipating them from error. The message of these chapters is that God is our only hope.

2 - You can survive. These chapters expose the myth of the hopeless world. Daniel is to be an inspiration for the hope that we need. It is amazing that he survived for as long as he did in a time of absolute monarchs and sending people to death on a whim. From his story we can learn that there are no worldly circumstances you can face that should drain your life dry. Let us labor to keep our hope in the gospel and evacuate our hopes from wherever else they may be. Our hope must be in the gospel.

3 - You will face opposition. The book of Daniel exposes the myth of the moral world. The world at its best rewards righteousness and punishes godlessness but this rarely happens. I want to say to you. “Pastor, wake up. You will face opposition.” We don’t often hear this in the church today. Many preachers today are like used car salesmen, pointing out the good points and covering up the bad, but this is nothing like the preaching of Jesus and the Apostles. Dever showed also that righteousness is no guarantee of avoiding trials. The call of pastors today, he said, is to tar the ark before the flood of God’s judgment comes upon the world. You must teach your people about the Fall and the implications of the Fall in our lives. Some pastors spend much of their lives trying to avoid trials as if they can some how head off the effects of the Fall. Yet according to Scripture, the day we don’t suffer for Christ is the odd day. Our lot is not to escape pain and suffering but to walk through the thorns and learn then about the depths of God’s love.

The fact is that a commitment to God’s glory above our own will normally bring suffering in this world. The exhortation to pastors in all of this is this: Let your expectations for your ministry be set by what God promises in His Word. He promises trials. And how does a Christian prepare to face trials? He must grow in his love for Christ. We must prepare for prison now and set realistic expectations, knowing that the righteous often suffer cruely.

This was an urgent message and one that seemed to ring true with the pastors in attendance. In an are of relative prosperity, an era and culture in which pastors to not typically suffer, it is important to realize that this is the exception rather than the rule. Realistically pastors must expect to suffer and thus they must prepare to suffer.

And since we’re on the subject of Mark Dever, here is a picture I nabbed from yesterday’s candids. I believe at this point Mark was telling me exactly what he believes concerning eschatology. But I can’t tell you what he believes or I’d have to kill you.

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Comments (6) »


1. Bibliomaniac
March 9, 2007
6:18 PM

Hey, I see Clayton Erb on the right edge of that picture!


2. Richard Hutto
March 11, 2007
7:35 AM

Does Mark prefer people not know his eschatology? I would really like to know as one trying to determine where my own stance is.


3. AdamJ
March 12, 2007
4:28 PM

Someone needs to get Tim a Macbook for his liveblogging!


4. Thomas Twitchell
March 15, 2007
11:32 AM

“Let me say that I am no follower of John MacArthur: I agree with him on some things and strongly disagree on others. But regardless of areas of difference, I respect him and appreciate both his integrity and his commitment to the truth of God as he understands it.”

This is a quote from one of the threads concerning John Mac’s statements. Note the last clause. This should concern every Christian that is being confronted by the chanllenge to the Truth. Opinions are by definition not the truth though they may appeal to it or even mirror it. Scripture is given not private interpretation and we would do well to heed the admonition of the Apostle Paul in his warnings to divisive teachers like Mac, “Learn from us what it means to not go beyond what is written.” Paul explains that any revelation that they had received was a gift and not different from that which anyone else had received. There is no other revelation than that which was laid, which is Christ. Let those who say that premillenarianism is the truth, denounce those who say it is not as a false teachers worth of anthema, or admit that they hold not the truth, themselves. Take a stand or bow out. John Mac claims the inside track in the revelation, then let him prove his worth as an apostle of God and declare all others false teachers, or let him admit that he has been teaching opinion as Truth and misleading his hearers. Deaver seems to strike at the heart of this. We must cling to what is true in face of the persecutions that will increase as they have so many times in the past. But, let each put his life on the line for the Truth, not fables as John Mac has done. What one teaches must be true for everyone or it is not Truth, so quit teaching it if it is not, or clearly proclaim it as opinion. The path to unity is in reducing the broad claims of the self-enlightened to the core Truth of Scripture, and establish the clear foundation. Then when those “storms” come the house will stand, but build it on shifting sands of obscure doctrines and it will fall. Follow the teachings of Ephesians, establish the first love and grow in the true knowledge of the Son of God attaining the full stature no longer being infants. There is no such thing as liberty in the non-essentials simply because those things will work their way to the core and the entire lump will be leavened. Scripture forbids us from both the pursuit of vain knowledge and the dissemination of it. If it is only opinion, admit, do not commit to it. When it comes to defending the Scripture, what man will defend opinions with his life anyway. And so we give cause to the world to blaspheme God, for people like John Mac, for all his Truth, undermines the Gospel with his opinions. Now, it is one thing to be convicted and another to be in the light. Those who know the Truth, truly, can proclaim all others pretenders, and should. Do not go beyond what is written and defend it with your life as the only truth, or be silent. Which is far better. The misunderstanding of liberty of conscience has made us no different than the world when it comes to “knowing.” Jesus said it this way, “The Father seeks those who will worship Him in Spirit and in Truth.” Paul, “I know him in whom I have believed.” These are not speculations. And, put together with the rest of the Scriptures about the necessity to guard our lips…and our hearts, for out of the heart flow the issues of life, and by the words of a man’s mouth he will be condemned or justified, we really need to quit giving the praise of fools which then becomes the burning arrows of the enemy that penetrate shields not based in Faith, but if vain speculations, unable to extinguish, vanquish or destroy the arguments wrongly called knowledge.


5. Matt Henry
March 15, 2007
12:39 PM

Regarding T. Twitchell:

Wow! You said a whole lot but backed up none of it. Shame on you! If you dislike John’s arguments regarding his Pre-mil position then interact on a biblical level. What passage did he misuse? Why is it misused? What is the proper exegesis and exposition? Then you can have something to say that has value on this subject. But to simply say that he is speaking “fables,” is a “divisive” man, and is “undermining truth” goes way beyond what is written. You are condemning yourself in your own words.

If you disagree with him, then begin to show your evidence. If not, then it is you, sir, who are being divisive.


6. Michael Elliott
March 16, 2007
11:47 AM

Regarding T. Twitchell
I totally agree with Matt Henry. I’m apalled and grieved at the ungracious spirit in his thread……”not fables as John Mac has done”. Disagree with him, but don’t villify him. Thomas, you need to go to the Cross and get some Grace. Michael