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11/12/06
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Hymn Revival

There is an old phrase which states “absence makes the heart grow fonder.” Yet this is no mere cliche when it comes to hymns. Over the past few years worship music has taken the Christian music world by storm. Artist after artist, band after band fed the craze by releasing albums of praise music, some filled with original songs and some with songs that had been previously-recorded. But with such a finite number of songs available, and with so many of them sounding just about the same, this got old quickly. At one point I compiled fully sixteen different versions of “Shout to the Lord.” It is a fine song, but it can only be recorded so many times before it begins to lose its lustre.

As soon as I saw that the worship craze was in full force I predicted that artists would soon return to the hymns. Slowly I began to notice hymns appearing among the worship songs as artists chose to record their favorite “old-timey” songs. But I believe it was the movie O Brother, Where Art Thou that brought hymns and gospel songs back into people’s consciousness. And perhaps more significantly, it made the record companies realize that people would purchase these albums! The soundtrack to the movie sold in great numbers as people fed their hunger for great recordings of songs like “I’ll Fly Away” and “Down to the River.” And suddenly the bands that once released praise and worship are recording albums of hymns. And it’s a good thing! I have listened to many of these albums and thought I would provide mini-reviews of some of them for you.

I will provide a bit of information about each, including some of the best songs on each album, the amount of interpretation used by the artists (which is to say how much they change or add to the hymns) and the style of music.

Passion, a collection of some of the most popular young worship leaders (including Chris Tomlin, Charlie Hall, Matt Redman and David Crowder) released Hymns Ancient & Modern in 2004. There is some interpretation of the hymns, and a couple have a chorus added to them, but on the whole the artists stay quite close to the traditional tunes. To “O Worship The King,” for example, Chris Tomlin adds the chorus, “You alone are the matchless King / To you alone be all majesty / Your glories and wonders, what tongues can recite? / You breathe in the air, You shine in the light.” Some of the standouts on this album are “The Solid Rock,” “All Hail the Power of Jesus’ Name,” and “All Creatures of Our God and King.” The liner notes include a brief description of each of the songs along with information about the author. It is quite a good album if you enjoy the “Passion” sound and are able to enjoy hymns with a bit of a worship music feel to them.

Amy Grant has released two albums of hymns. Legacy…Hymns & Faith was released in 2002 and it was followed earlier this year by Rock of Ages…Hymns & Faith. Both of these albums are excellent in song choice, musicianship and quality. Grant, because of her marriage to Vince Gill, has access to many of the finest musicians in Nashville, and she takes full advantage. I have not listened to the first album in quite some time so am unable to recall which are the best songs. Highlights of the second album include “Sweet Will of God,” “Abide With Me,” to which she adds a chorus, and “Anywhere with Jesus.” “I Surrender All,” while not a traditional hymn, is another great track. The songs are Nashville-influenced, which is to say that they have a Country and Western sound to them. Grant generally sticks quite closely to the original songs both in lyrics and tune. One notable exception is “Abide With Me.” Usually I would not condone making any changes to this hymn (one of my favorites) but Grant does not take away from its beauty and power with the addition of a chorus and a slightly modified tune.

Jars of Clay has long been known as one of the most talented Christian bands. While their greatest hit was also their first, and they have since lost most of their mainstream following, they have continued to flourish in the Christian market. Their latest offering, Redemption Songs, finds them bringing an end to any hope of recovering their mainstream popularity. Among the highlights of this album, which includes both hymns and gospel songs are “God Be Merciful To Me,” “I’ll Fly Away,” “Our Lord Is Crucified,” and “On Jordan’s Stormy Banks I Stand.” Truthfully, though, most of the songs are extremely well-done and there are none that seem out-of-place. There is some interpretation, but not a large amount. There are several guest artists contributing to this album including such notables as The Blind Boys of Alabama and Martin Smith of Delirious. Redemption Songs is an excellent album, and in my opinion, Jars of Clay’s best.

Indelible Grace & Red Mountain Music: Both Indelible Grace and Red Mountain Music record traditional hymns set to more contemporary music. Sometimes the traditional tunes remain intact and sometimes they are completely reinvented. Both of these series are available from Monergism Books. The four Indelible Grace projects are among my favorite albums. In the same vein, Sandra McCracken and Matthew Smith, both of whom contributed to the Indelible Grace projects, have released solo hymn projects as well (and these are also available from Monergism Books).

Bob Kauflin: Bob Kauflin’s Upward- The Bob Kauflin Hymns Project offers a good list of old hymns, new hymns, and hymns that have new elements added to traditional melodies. It is a Sovereign Grace spin on the hymns revival and is an excellent album. Selections include “Praise God from Whom All Blessings Flow,” “Hallelujah, What a Savior,” and “I Will Glory in My Redeemer.” Samples, lead sheets, etc are available here.

Keith Getty: Keith Getty, best known for co-authoring “In Christ Alone” with Stuart Townend, has recorded several albums of contemporary hymns. These hymns are sung in a wide variety of churches ranging from through contemporary to traditional to liturgical. You can learn about these projects at Getty Music.

Scott Wesley Brown has recently released Old Hymns Made New. He records such favorites as “Praise To The Lord The Almighty,” “The Church’s One Foundation,” and “Immortal, Invisible.” He does a fair bit of interpretation and adds a chorus to nearly every song. The song has a mixed Pop and Adult Contemporary feel to it. The changes Brown makes to the hymns generally contribute to the songs rather than taking away from them. For example, to the song “Come Christians Join to Sing” he adds the following chorus: “Amen to the Lord / Amen to his grace / Amen to the one who is worthy of praise.” Highlights of the album include “Jesus Shall Reign,” “Praise To The Lord The Almighty,” and “Thy God Reigneth.” It is quite a good album, though it does not display the musicianship of some of the other albums listed here.

Bart Millard is best known as the lead singer for MercyMe and the man who penned “I Can Only Imagine.” He recently released his first solo album, Hymned. It is a Southern-inspired collection of hymns, many of which are from the early twentieth century. There is some range in the styles of music, with gospel, blues and country all getting fair representation. Millard adds to the album one original song he wrote in tribute to his grandmother who taught him to love hymns. Some of the best tracks include “The Old Rugged Cross,” Pass Me Not, O Gentle Savior” and “Just A Closer Walk With Thee.” The song choice is strong and the artistry is evident throughout.

Blast From the Past

Here are a couple of albums of hymns from days past:

Our Hymns was a compilation album released through Word in 1989. It featured many of the biggest names in Christian music including Michael W. Smith, who song “Holy, Holy, Holy;” Amy Grant, who sang “‘Tis So Sweet To Trust In Jesus;” Wayne Watson who sang “It Is Well With My Soul;” and Petra, who contributed “Onward, Christian Soldiers.” Phil Keaggy added a unique song which began with an instrumental prelude of “Bach’s Bourree” which transitioned into “O God, Our Help in Ages Past.” Listening to the album now is a little bit comical, hearing the influence of the late 80’s and early 90’s in the hymns.

Rock Power Praise was an album including many of the Christian metal bands of the early 90’s and is not to be confused with Petra’s compilation The Power of Praise. It makes for good comedy these days!

Also Recommended

Hymns Triumphant is a two-part series of hymns recorded by the National Philharmonic Orchestra. Most of the hymns are recorded only in part, with very few being presented in more than one or two verses. The combination of the choir and orchestra is stunning in its beauty. The albums, which are now sold together for approximately $20, could only be better if they included the full hymns.

In the Company of Angels by Caedmon’s Call is a worship album that includes several hymns. While many of the other songs are newly-written, the album has a traditional feel to it and is quite well-produced, even if it cannot break out of the Caedmon’s Call mold.

Long-time readers may recognize that some of this article was posted a year ago or so. I took the opportunity today to update and re-post it.

Hymn Revival

Comments (32) »


1. pilgrim
November 12, 2006
3:20 PM

When I became a Christian and started attending Church again I preferred the lively worship songs, and most hymns didn’t interest me. As time went on I changed—the lively songs wore thin as the shallowness of many of them (not all, but many) became obvious and the depth of most hymns (not all, but most) became apparent—now I judge the songs first on the content of the words, then the music.

But overall I prefer the great old hymns. (But I am not opposed to newer styles—just keep the words deep, meaningful & God-centred—especially that last one.)


2. s. zeilenga
November 12, 2006
3:46 PM

I just finished a hymns CD with one of my friends. I don’t know if hymns will ever really get as wide spread again as contemporary worship but I know there is a place for them.

z.


3. Alberto
November 12, 2006
5:07 PM

Out of curiosity, do any of these albums (of which I have none) contain hymns with lyrics that are distictly Protestant and Evangelical? I ask because I really don’t hear any of the famous singers sing songs that distinguishes them from people such as Roman Catholics.


4. Tim Challies
November 12, 2006
5:46 PM

Alberto - Absolutely. The Indelible Grace CD’s are distinctly Reformed. And here’s a sample from Matthew Smith’s latest (the hymn is “My Lord I Did Not Choose You:”

My heart knows none above you.
For your rich grace I thirst.
I know that if I love you,
You must have loved me first.

My Lord, I did not choose you
For that could never be.
My heart would still refuse you
Had you not chosen me.

I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t find too many Roman Catholics singing that!


5. Nate
November 12, 2006
7:56 PM

I must put a plug in for our Pastor of worship at Faith Community Church in Kansas City, MO. His newest cd, His Faithfulness just came out. This cd is the poetry of missionary Amy Carmichael set to music. Very Good! www.jimspencermusic.com.

From By Thy Cross and Passion

Now by Thy cross and passion, Lord Grant us this plea, this sovereign plea Save us from choosing peace for sword And give us souls to give to Thee


6. Eric Costa
November 12, 2006
8:40 PM

Since others are bragging about their friends….

Matthew Curl, the Music & Arts Director at our church (Intown Presbyterian, Portland, OR) put out a CD a few years ago called Intown Psalms, which is a compilation of songs from one of the old Psalters that he put to new music. His music is splendid. You can listen to free brief samples of each song on the church’s website on the Audio page. He’s coming out with another album this Christmas season, with more hymns, poems and psalms put to new music.


7. MH
November 12, 2006
9:11 PM

Interesting this is finally getting some attention in the blogosphere. It is a phenomenon that has been happening somewhat cotemporaneously with the “Young, Restless, and Reformed” movement. I know many others have noticed this, so it’s not just me, and I don’t think it’s a coincidence.

Another part of this phenomenon that is of interest is the aesthetic movement toward folk culture and idioms. Suddenly and strangely,the “old-timey” is becoming popular (more of a cult following, but still…) among Westerners and particularly among Americans, who are well known for being obsessed with all things new. If I may be so bold, I don’t think it’s merely the next cultural movement, no better than any other. If you haven’t noticed the growing move toward folk culture, I suggest you check it out. You may find yourself refreshed in ways you’ve never been before. There is something lasting and particularly meaningful about culture that’s fostered in the context of community. A mark of this movement is the “new” taste for “old-timey” music (Tim mentioned “O Brother, Where Art Thou?”. You’ll encounter this in many of the other records he mentioned—Indelible Grace, Jars Redemption Songs). Is this just a passing fad? Is this just the new contemporary, worth as much as say a Maranatha Praise chorus? I say no. I say there is something about the convergence of the resurgence of Reformed theology, great hymns, and folky music.

I’m writing a paper about some of this, if you are interested. You can read as I post my way through my research and work here.


8. chuck bridgeland
November 12, 2006
9:55 PM


9. Jamie Cain
November 12, 2006
10:08 PM

Thanks for this post, Mr. Challies. Like some of the other commenters here, I had a “honeymoon” experience with so-called praise and worship music. Without disparaging it, I look back and see little depth to either the songs or my relationship with God at the time.

It wasn’t until we landed in a church that insisted on at least two hymns per service that I began to feel “muscles” I hadn’t really used in a long time come to life. Hearing people sing theologically rich lyrics with exuberance and great joy transformed my relationship with God and my own worship.


10. Danielle
November 12, 2006
10:22 PM

I’ve absolutely loved the hymn revival, too! It seems that no matter what God is teaching me, hymns have something to offer that fits right in with what God is doing in my heart.

Many of the CDs you reviewed have blessed me, too. I’d also recommend the Newsboys’ ‘Adoration’ album—with a particularly beautiful rendition of ‘In Christ Alone.’

The only problem with all these wonderful hymn releases is that, after hearing the artists so beautifully render the hymns, I assume I’ll like everything those artists have to offer—and that’s certainly not always the case :).


11. Dawn
November 12, 2006
11:39 PM

You might find this interesting: Awake My Soul.


12. SueS
November 13, 2006
8:26 AM

Having recently left a non-denominational church that sang almost nothing but P&W songs, I am now revelling in the richness of traditional hymns at our new church. The words and music are nothing less than a balm to my spirit. I’ve heard some of the newer renditions of traditional lyrics set to new arrangements and although some of it is interesting, I find it to be very reminiscent of the ‘60’s fold music and it all sounds alike after a while. What I want to find, and it seems to be a very difficult task, is well done, traditional hymn recordings. Ideally, I would love to find recordings of hymns taken from the Trinity Hymnal, using the original arrangements.

I recently received a cd by Kory Welch, the son in law of John MacArthur, entitled, Enduring Praise. It includes such pieces as “Amazing Grace”, “The Love of God”, “What Wondrous Love Is This”, and “Be Thou My Vision”. Mr Welch has a wonderfully pure tenor voice which is matched by superb orchestration, some of it with a Celtic flair. It is a beautiful album and I wish I could find many more like it.


13. C.H.H.
November 13, 2006
9:02 AM

I wonder if, 15 years from now, today’s music will appear comical, or if that was just some ackward stage we went through in the 80s.

Last winter, on a road trip, a friend and I listened to hours and hours of vintage Petra. Once you can get past the initial hilarity, it’s actually great stuff. But it does take time to stop laughing.


14. James
November 13, 2006
9:21 AM

How about Psalms? I once had to laugh when someone mentioned a list of the “top 100 Christian songs ever.” I wondered how many of the ones that God Himself wrote were not included.

I know that RUF (from which Indelible Grace emerged, if I recall correctly) has written some new tunes for various Psalms. I especially love their setting for Luther’s version of Psalm 130—talk about something an RC could never sing.

With all of the resources that you come across, Tim, have you found much in the way of new settings for Psalms?

Thanks, James


15. Charlie
November 13, 2006
9:33 AM

Tim, I have a question

On the passion CD, with “O Worship the King”, does the artist really stay true to the hymn? I have heard the new rendering before and am quiet disappointed with it. The new rendering takes away the first part of the second to last stanza and the last part of the last stanza. The original last two stanzas in “O Worship the King” goes like this:

“Frail children of dust, and feeble as frail, In Thee do we trust, nor find Thee to fail; Thy mercies how tender, how firm to the end, Our Maker, Defender, Redeemer, and Friend.

O measureless might! Ineffable love! While angels delight to worship Thee above, The humbler creation, though feeble their lays, With true adoration shall all sing Thy praise.”

The new one takes away “Frail children of dust, and feeble as frail, In Thee do we trust, nor find Thee to fail,” and “The humbler creation, though feeble their lays, With true adoration shall all sing Thy praise.” Then combines the two remaining stanzas.

They take away, in my opinion, one the the best parts of the song. declaring my complete weakness in my own power and my reliance on the power that God provides.

Does the CD keep the original words?

Charlie


16. Joey
November 13, 2006
10:17 AM

Tim,

Are you familiar with the music of Fernando Ortega? To borrow a line from Barbara Mandrell, he was doing hymns when hymns wasn’t cool.

He’s been putting out the most beautiful music for at least 10 years now. Every CD he does usually has at least two classic hymns, and some of his CDs are strictly hymns. I’ve even been surprised to find that some of the songs on his CDs were actually written by him, yet they sound like they could’ve been written 200 years ago.


17. Matthew Smith
November 13, 2006
10:25 AM

Monergism doesn’t yet have my newest CD (All I Owe) that has the hymn “My Lord I Did Not Choose You” (which Tim quoted in his comment). That CD is available at my MySpace page in the left-hand column.


18. Brendt
November 13, 2006
11:26 AM

Two thoughts:

1) For those that don’t consider it sacrilege to add to a hymn, Chris Tomlin’s rendition of “Amazing Grace” is fantastic. Particularly the fact that he “rescues” the last verse that Newton actually wrote, which (IMHO) is much better than the traditional last verse. I wrote about it here.

2) I wish Our Hymns had come out when Nashvegas wasn’t terrified of sparse arrangements. I heard Wayne Watson sing “It Is Well” at a concert — just vocal and piano — and ran out the next day to buy that album on the strength of that one song alone. But the album version has Watson drowning in a sea of synths.


19. Brendt
November 13, 2006
11:28 AM

P.S. I’m not attributing the feeling of sacrilege to you, Tim — or anyone else for that matter. That was not meant to be a judgmental statement, at all.


20. Jeri
November 13, 2006
1:30 PM

Chuck Bridgeland, do you go to Auburn? I have a daughter who attends school there.


21. Chris
November 13, 2006
3:38 PM

My pastor (who had over 50 years of pastor experience shepherding fundamental Baptist churches) once shared with me the value of the old hymns (in contrast with that of contemporary Christian music), beyond the opportunity they afford for us to rightly praise Him:

They teach doctrine.


22. Lance Roberts
November 13, 2006
4:25 PM

Tim,

Could you point out which ones of those are done without a modern beat to them?

I’m always looking for good Hymn CDs.


23. MH
November 13, 2006
6:59 PM

Lance Roberts,

What is a “modern beat”? Just curious if you could count it out for us so we know.


24. chuck bridgeland
November 13, 2006
7:04 PM

“Chuck Bridgeland, do you go to Auburn? I have a daughter who attends school there.”

No. Just had someone point me to those CDs, and like them.


25. Steve
November 14, 2006
3:20 AM

While I might spend hours and many…well…non exsistant scriptures trying to teach you about music….it is not really an issue in scripture.

It has been hotly debated many times by many church leaders…but in point of fact…it is not an issue that God deals with. Thus placing it in a non-issue area.

I could point out the differnences between acapella and musical instruments…but what would be the point? Neither is an issue with God. The idea that your interpretation of what is acceptable to God, or is appropriate to Him is not a valid argument. Since no scripture supports your claim. Anyone’s claim.

You may have opinions regarding current songs, or praise…but they remain that…only opinions…since there is no scripture to support your’s or anyone’s idea of what is acceptable to God.

Please, stress that any opinions are that…opinions….not God supported…or condoned.


26. Jeff
November 14, 2006
2:21 PM

Chuck Bridgeland, If you like the Aubrun RUF CD’s, you’ll probably like the Red Mountain Music CD’s too. The same guy (Brian Murphy) is the main organizer for both groups. You can find out more about Red Mountain Music at www.redmountainmusic.com


27. Lance Roberts
November 14, 2006
4:25 PM

Steve,

You’re dead wrong. There are well over 500 verses in the Bible dealing with music. God deals with a lot more in the Bible than people give him credit for. Please do your research next time. Saying he doesn’t deal with music is like the Gnostics saying God doesn’t care what you wear, when there are hundreds of verses disproving that also.

If you think music is neutral, then you’ve bought Satan’s lie. Music is communication, and can be bad, evil or corrupt.


28. MH
November 14, 2006
10:16 PM

Lance Roberts,

I agree with your assessment of Steve’s comment—it is ridiculous to say that every musical judgment is no more than a value-less opinion that makes no difference in reality before God. But, since you’ve said, “Music is communication, and can be bad, evil or corrupt,” don’t forget the flipside of that. Yes, music is communication, and no it is not neutral, but it can be GOOD, in fact, very good.


29. MM
November 15, 2006
8:32 PM

Here’s another recommendation:

Depth of Mercy by the Grace Seattle Experimental Orchestral, available here: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/gseo

Some more obscure hymns, set to new music. The music is quite different too…how many worship albums can you name that feature bassoon :)?


30. Steve Camp
November 15, 2006
11:24 PM

Thanks for this post Tim… As you know, this is an issue very dear to my heart…

There are some good choices here overall; but some I am surprised were included. There are also some obvious efforts that were not mentioned at all. I attribute this to possibly only a limited knowledge of the subject.

The hymns revival wasn’t hard to predict. In fact, it had been on the minds of Nashville’s finest marketeers years ago. When “CCM worship” really took off about ten years ago, it was inevitable that any market the labels could profit from would be tapped. The church was THAT market and hymns were the perfect vehicle to conquer them with.

But again beloved… this is nothing new. Country and black gospel artists, even Elvis himself, had been recording the hymns for many years. It was just part of the greater music culture. Even the Grammy’s have spot lighted a “gospel” segment from time to time pulling one of the great classics as a “spiritual” moment for the show. “Brother Where Art Thou” for many was an obvious embarrassment. Again, just another cheap calculated ploy by the film and music moguls. Has anyone on this list actually listened to that project lately? It was not very well done at all.

Bill Gaither’s revival of Southern Gospel music over the past 15 years has featured some of the great hymns of the church as well; and has blessed millions by his excellent efforts.

George Beverly Shea, a friend of mine, has recorded some of the finest hymn music available (55+ albums and counting) and has a faithful ministry that spans close to sixty years. In the late 1940’s, He used to sing before my grandfather would preach on the south side of Chicago before joining the Billy Graham Team. He would sing some of my grandmother’s hymns that are still in most hymnals today (“That Beautiful Name” and “He’s Coming Again”).

Living in Nashville and having been a part of CCM for over 25 years, I think it would help to give another perspective to this “revival.”

1. Amy Grant doesn’t have access to better musicians because she is married to Vince Gill. I’m not sure where that information came from… All recording artists, regardless of stature, have access to all of the great players — it is union governed, not celebrity driven. Now access to the best producers is quite another story altogether. Vince has no bearing on that when it came to Amy—none.

2. I was surprised to see Amy’s hymn’s albums included here. They were nothing more than a calculated PR plow to try and attempt to reenter the CCM ranks and recapture some of her Christian fans after her divorce from Gary surrounding Vince and their relationship.

Her hymns tour was nothing short of embarrassing by treating these great hymns as just another form of entertainment. This was style over substance. I still cannot listen to her sing these great songs of faith knowing they are using them for another agenda. Very sad.

3. Worship and praise music in general should not be a form of commercial entertainment generating millions of dollars and sold as retail merchandise. This is the One Triune God we are discussing here and He is not to be triffled with… amen?

4. It also saddened me to see some of the earlier praise music from 15-20 years ago (I know some of these artists) defined as “a little bit comical.” I know the comment was referring to musical style and production (I quiver at some of my earlier recordings too) but I don’t think any of those artists would take kindly to having their worship in song defined as making for good comedy.

Listen to any of your favorite preachers on cassette from the ‘70’s lately? The quality is poor, their voices sound different, etc., but the message is still timeless and a blessing.

5. I didn’t see “Songs for the Shepherd” listed anywhere on this list. This was a groundbreaking CD and the songs are as meaningful and rich today as they were when recorded 23 years ago.

6. Lastly, great songs like “Shout to the Lord” regardless of how many times they are recorded, do not lose their appeal. As an example from the preaching sphere, have you listened to S. Lewis Johnson’s sermons lately? I have listened to several of them many, many times over and never once tire of them. I have heard my friend John MacArthur preach Psalm 19:7-11 on the Sufficiency of Scripture at least 25 times and on as many different occasions and am greatly blessed, challenged and encouraged every single time.

“Psalms, hymns and spiritual songs…” I guess the last area to be made popular by today’s artists and capitalized on will be the Psalms. Prayerfully, we can hope that “The Treasury of Davie” is not commercialized as the rest of God’s music has been.


31. Gloria
November 16, 2006
3:23 PM

SueS..I too have Kory Welch’s cd and wanted to recommend another great one to you. It is by Philip Webb, and titled How Great Thou Art. He is also a tenor who has a career in opera and classical music. He sang in a trio with Kory Welch at Grace Community Church’s 50th anniversary celebration.


32. MH
November 22, 2006
4:22 AM

Wow, Steve Camp. Isn’t that just a comment to end all comments!

Not that anyone is still reading this thread (Camp definitely killed it), but…

Camp, you said: “‘Brother Where Art Thou’ for many was an obvious embarrassment. Again, just another cheap calculated ploy by the film and music moguls. Has anyone on this list actually listened to that project lately? It was not very well done at all.”

Why do you disdain roots music? Yes it was professionally (and industrially) done, but the artists on the soundtrack are REAL folk artists. Having heard some of your music, though, I’m not sure you know what I’m talking about, so nevermind.

(frustrated with people who think they are some kind of authority just because they’ve been around the industry block, are supposedly Reformed, and are opinionated…aarghh!!)