I’m inviting you to read one of the classics of the Christian faith with me. Read on to find out more…
To this point the “Reading Classics Together” effort has gone very well, at least in my opinion. Every week we’ve tackled together just a short portion of one of the classic texts of the Christian faith. In this way we’ve read through J.C. Ryle’s Holiness, John Owen’s Overcoming Sin and Temptation, A.W. Pink’s The Seven Sayings of the Saviour on the Cross and Jonathan Edwards’ The Religious Affections. We’ve had hundreds of people participate by reading the books together and discussing them each week (though, inevitably, I think many more people begin each of the efforts than finish them and many more people read than comment!). All along we’ve been reading some great works—books many of us have always wished to read but books few of us have ever made time for. And now it is time to decide on the next classic we’ll read together.
Through the first four rounds we have bounced from a more modern work to a more ancient one. We’ve gone from Ryle to Owen, Pink to Edwards. Now that we’ve finished Edwards and have slogged through his brilliant but difficult Affections, we’re ready to move forward in time to try something a little easier. And the next classic we will tackle together is one that should prove a far easier challenge: C.S. Lewis’ Mere Christianity. This is regarded as a classic apologetic work that stands, even 55 years later, as a superior introduction to the Christian faith. It is a book that has been so widely quoted that I’m quite convinced that many of us have read most of it in other works!
Here is my disclaimer in which I hope to head off the inevitable critiques. I think we’re all aware that C.S. Lewis held to the odd point of strange theology—unbiblical theology. So as we read this book we’ll be appreciating it for what it does so well, but we’ll also be ready to take note if and when what Lewis teaches does not accord with Scripture. The purpose of Reading Classics Together is not only to read books we agree with entirely, but to read books that have become Christian classics, whether for good reasons or bad! In this case I’m convinced there will be far more gold than dross.
Let’s count on beginning with the Preface and Foreword on December 4. That gives you just over two weeks to find a copy and read the first few pages. After December 4 we’ll proceed at a pretty good clip. The book has over 30 chapters but we’ll read several chapters a week (many of them are just a few pages long) and try to work through it quite quickly. But we’ll be sure to move at a reasonable pace so everyone can keep up, even through the holiday season.
Mere Christianity is very widely available. It has gone through many printings in both hardcover and softcover, can be found in e-book, audio book and, I think, even on YouTube. I’m sure you can also find free versions online, though I believe these (and the YouTube versions) would be unlicensed and therefore either illegal at worst or pseudo-legal at best. Just about every used bookstore will have a few copies in stock. So if you have a couple of dollars to your name, you’ll be able to join in the fun.
If you are going to participate, please just leave a comment so I can try to gauge interest. And then find a copy of the book and get reading!
Here are links to three of the places you may shop (and in each case feel free to hunt around the sites as they probably have it in multiple versions):
Monergism Books | Westminster Books | Amazon
Comments (154) »
1. Frank Gantz
November 18, 2008
6:45 AM
Count me in. Looking forward to joining in on this journey.
2. Tammy Gruebbel
November 18, 2008
7:07 AM
I’m in. Can’t wait!
3. Inge Lewis
November 18, 2008
7:08 AM
I have this book and have been reluctant to read it because of what I have read about Lewis since I purchased it.
I look forward to reading it in a group setting to help me keep it in the right perspective.
Count me in!
4. Margaret @ love God, not money
November 18, 2008
7:15 AM
I read this book years ago and still have it on my shelf. I’m really interested in reading it with everyone here. Great idea!
5. Jacob
November 18, 2008
7:41 AM
Thank you for being willing to discuss the problems with Lewis’ theology. I think many people are under the assumption that because he wrote a book called Mere Christianity that he somehow gets a free pass.
6. Nisin
November 18, 2008
7:43 AM
Can’t wait to start.
7. Laura
November 18, 2008
7:53 AM
I’m in. I read part of it this summer at a retreat and would enjoy this joint reading.
8. Larry Norman
November 18, 2008
7:58 AM
Ditto what has already been said. Looking forward to reading it, I think it gets a “vip” pass past any form of critique quite often, but is full of good stuff!
9. luke
November 18, 2008
8:16 AM
I’m in. Love the classics!
10. Susan in TX
November 18, 2008
8:37 AM
I’m in! My daughter will be reading this for school next fall and I wanted to pre-read it — what a perfect opportunity for accountability for me. :)
That said, I’m one who tends to read with you and rarely comment.
Looking forward to it.
11. Hayden
November 18, 2008
8:58 AM
I’m in!
12. Jeremy
November 18, 2008
9:01 AM
I’m in. I was just starting to read it anyway. Got the complete works of Lewis for around $15 on Amazon.
13. John Meche
November 18, 2008
9:20 AM
Count me in! What’s the reading schedule?
14. Greg and Maria
November 18, 2008
9:33 AM
We’ve both wanted to read this book for years and we are looking forward to this experience. First time!
15. Jason
November 18, 2008
9:36 AM
I’m in.
16. Jenn Ro
November 18, 2008
9:41 AM
I’m in :-)
17. Scott D. Andersen
November 18, 2008
9:41 AM
I’m in
18. Joel
November 18, 2008
9:41 AM
Hi, Tim. I’ll be joining this time around. Can’t wait to read through it again!
Take care.
19. Ben Mordecai
November 18, 2008
9:43 AM
I could actually see doing this.
20. Emily
November 18, 2008
9:43 AM
I’m in…I got this book awhile ago and haven’t picked it up off my shelf yet. Hurray for accountability!
21. Kendall C
November 18, 2008
10:04 AM
This will be my first complete reading of C.S. Lewis. I am looking forward to the journey.
22. Isaac
November 18, 2008
10:10 AM
Hooray for a fresh start! I’m in.
23. Kim
November 18, 2008
10:14 AM
Yeah, a book I actually have! I’m looking forward to joining you.
(Feeling guilty because I signed up to read your last one but didn’t. I had good intentions of reading Religious Affections, but I accidentally requested the wrong Edwards book from the library, then they didn’t have RA, by the time I checked other libraries and used book stores and found none in stock, I knew I was already too far behind to catch up in such a heavy book!)
24. Angie
November 18, 2008
10:18 AM
Read it several years ago and believe I still have the copy, so if I do, I’ll definitely play along!
25. Lacey Steele
November 18, 2008
10:30 AM
I’m in! (and excited too…)
26. Ashley
November 18, 2008
10:31 AM
I’m another one who’s guilting over not following through with Religious Affections (though I did get the book - I’ll go find your archived comments on it when I get more time to read it).
But I have this one and read it years ago - this will be a better hurdle for me to try first :).
27. Bob
November 18, 2008
10:47 AM
I’m in!!!
28. James
November 18, 2008
11:08 AM
Ugh… I have this book, so no excuse this time. I’m in and looking forward to it.
29. Lisa P.
November 18, 2008
11:09 AM
Ooh…me too, me too!!!
30. debbi
November 18, 2008
11:12 AM
i’m in as well! :)
31. Elizabeth
November 18, 2008
11:18 AM
I’m in. Also, many/most would-be readers can probably find a copy in a library near them (yes, I’m studying to be a librarian- does it show?).
32. Talleyho
November 18, 2008
11:23 AM
Let’s get this Lewis Party started!
33. James V
November 18, 2008
11:24 AM
I’m in!
34. Chris Gilliam
November 18, 2008
11:24 AM
Looking forward to joining in for the first time. Read the work many years ago and looking forward to the re-read in group setting.
35. Amber
November 18, 2008
11:35 AM
Me too, I’m in.
36. Laurie
November 18, 2008
11:36 AM
I’m finishing up the last reading on Edwards, and will try to join in on this one. It’s been years since I’ve read it.
37. DM
November 18, 2008
11:38 AM
Count me in … this will be my first “read-along” experience too. Looking forward to it.
38. Dawn
November 18, 2008
11:39 AM
I’m in.
39. Chris Meirose
November 18, 2008
11:50 AM
I’ll join in on this one.
40. Mike K
November 18, 2008
11:56 AM
Tim, count me in.
41. rebecca
November 18, 2008
12:00 PM
I may do this one with you. I’ve got the book, I’ve read it before, and I think it’s a little easier to read than some of the others, so I should be able to fit it in. I think.
42. Arnold Anderson
November 18, 2008
12:10 PM
I’ll join in on this…
43. Katherine Mary
November 18, 2008
12:14 PM
READ IT YEARS AGO…. VERY EXCITED TO READ IT AGAIN.. THANKS.
BLESSINGS… :)
44. Fillip
November 18, 2008
12:26 PM
I’ve got the book, so I’ll give it another whirl.
45. Bethany Kush
November 18, 2008
12:35 PM
I’ll enjoy going at it for a third time…this time with other people!
46. Mike Kowalski
November 18, 2008
12:48 PM
Looking forward to it.
47. Ivan Mesa
November 18, 2008
1:04 PM
Count me in!
48. Mary Eady
November 18, 2008
1:05 PM
Oh I am oh-so-IN! I even have a copy on hand and was wanting to read it again because am sending a copy to my cousin. What wonderful prep! Also, hi — I found you through the recommendation of one of the seminarians I work with. He’s great for good online finds!
49. Richard H
November 18, 2008
1:08 PM
I think I’m in - I have read bits and pieces of it, but it would be good to read all-the-way through with all you others who are joining in!
50. Robert Houghton
November 18, 2008
1:26 PM
This was the first book I read when I got saved 3 years ago. I remember it being way above my head then. I will dust it off and revisit it. Now with a better grasp on the basics of Christianity, I hope to get through it with more understanding.
51. Jamie Fugate
November 18, 2008
1:28 PM
I’m in, excited about rereading it with you guys
52. Jennifer Churchill
November 18, 2008
1:33 PM
Very excited to participate!
53. Melissa Cuppett
November 18, 2008
1:40 PM
Looking forward to joining in.
54. Lilly
November 18, 2008
2:00 PM
I read this on my own a couple of years ago and will definitely enjoy reading it with a group of brothers and sisters this time around. Count me in!
55. paul
November 18, 2008
2:07 PM
I can’t wait to join in the discussion. This will be my first time joining the book club.
56. Jeri
November 18, 2008
2:08 PM
I’ll join in. Hopefully this will spur me on to finish up the 4 or 5 I have going!
I had to smile at this: “through the first four rounds we have bounced from a more modern work to a more ancient one. We’ve gone from Ryle to Owen, Pink to Edwards.” I don’t know that so many Christians would see Ryle and Pink as in any way modern! But I love it.
57. Daryl
November 18, 2008
2:13 PM
If I can find my copy, I’ll join in as well.
58. Jared
November 18, 2008
2:15 PM
Love this book. Read it a couple times, but never get tired of re-reading it.
Count me in!
And I’ll try and comment on the readings.
/j
59. Darrin
November 18, 2008
2:20 PM
“C.S. Lewis held to the odd point of strange theology—unbiblical theology” - Please do keep that in mind as you read through. Personally I think you’d be better off with some of his fiction. But perhaps you can notice some of the inconsistencies as you read through, and that may be of benefit. Caveat Lector!
60. Wendy
November 18, 2008
2:42 PM
I’m in. Read only part of it in college.
61. Marilyn
November 18, 2008
2:43 PM
I have this book and have read it, but look forward to reading along and hearing discussion of Lewis’ theological problems. I probably will not be able to comment with time challenges that have become part of life the last few months, but I will keep the reading commitment.
62. Michael
November 18, 2008
2:45 PM
I’ve been enjoying the audiobook of this on my way to and from work. It’s a work I’ve wanted to read for a while, and have been considering sending to a friend. It is thoroughly enjoyable, and full of great material. Lewis has a such a uniquely approachable and clever style. I look forward to re-reading along.
63. allyson
November 18, 2008
2:46 PM
i’ve never joined in with you before, but i think i’m going to try this time. i took a stab at this book as a new christian and i remember it being a bit difficult. i have always wanted to try again because of how often it is quoted… so maybe this is the right time to do it.
64. Shannon
November 18, 2008
3:02 PM
Tim: I’ve always wanted to read this book. In fact, it’s been on my nightstand in my “to read” pile almost all year. This is just the motivation I need to actually dive in. So count me in. I’m with you!
65. Christine
November 18, 2008
3:10 PM
I haven’t read it since college! I look forward to reading it again!
66. Brenda Lester
November 18, 2008
3:33 PM
I’m in.
67. erin
November 18, 2008
3:36 PM
I’m in! This will be my first foray into these book discussions, but I will definitely be looking forward to it!
68. Rob Davis
November 18, 2008
3:41 PM
I’m in, but I sure wish I would have been involved in the discussions of the other books that have been read together so far.
69. Bobby Grow
November 18, 2008
3:44 PM
I’m not sure what “theological problems” people keep referencing in “Mere Christianity?” He was Anglican, so I imagine if you are testing him by your particular tradition then he poses “problems.” I know his view on scripture was different, i.e. didn’t hold to “inerrancy,” but hey, he was a Brit, and they didn’t have the Fundamentalist movement. He spoke of “history” in literary terms, not necessarily historiographical. His view of hell and heaven (and purgatory) was more Anglican (leaning Catholic). Anyway, I certainly don’t think this is reason to be “afraid” of him … just be a critical reader, learn and enjoy!
70. Pastor Chad
November 18, 2008
3:47 PM
I am truly looking forward to a great discussion of and with a great Christian mind.
71. Brad
November 18, 2008
3:51 PM
I’m in! Mere Christianity was instrumental in helping me overcome my struggles with intellectual doubt. Look forward to reading it again.
72. Deanna
November 18, 2008
3:53 PM
I’m in!!
73. Jessica Watson
November 18, 2008
4:05 PM
I think I might try joining this time, although I have already read the book several times. I love Lewis, for he is such a great writer. Obviously, if you’re reformed, which I am, you are not going to agree with all that he says, but there is still much we can learn from him. Lewis is definitely God-centered; he lifts your gaze heavenward. He is worth reading for that reason. Also his down -to-earth, conversational style and beauty of expression are admirable and enjoyable.
74. Mr. E
November 18, 2008
4:09 PM
I’ve had the book for years and never read it. This will be great!
75. Kevin in MN
November 18, 2008
4:20 PM
I’m in. I read it two years ago and I am looking forward to your commentary.
76. Margaret in Hungary
November 18, 2008
4:37 PM
I’m in! I’ve been an RSS subscriber here for months, but haven’t read with you yet. Looking forward to it, I love this book!
77. Nancy Neal
November 18, 2008
4:55 PM
I’ll be joining in. Looking forward to the discussion.
78. Mrs. J.D. Darr
November 18, 2008
5:19 PM
me too!!!!
79. Curtis
November 18, 2008
5:23 PM
Hey Tim, I’ll start reading with you, hopefully I’ll still be around to finish it with you. I started reading it a few years ago when I was first saved but never did finish it as other books moved ahead of it, to be higher on the list. I’ve got a few books already on the go , but i should be able to keep up with this as well.
God bless you brother,
In Christ.
Curtis.
80. Brian
November 18, 2008
5:36 PM
I read this over 20 years ago in 9th or 10th grade, after reading the Narnia series for a 9th-grade English project. Good opportunity to read it again, especially since it’s been proposed as a reading for our adult SS class’ small group discussions.
81. Stevie
November 18, 2008
6:08 PM
Hi Tim, count me in. I’ve enjoyed your commentaries and discussions for Edwards’ Religious Affection, glad that I can also participate this time. Looking forward to read it together.
82. cameron
November 18, 2008
6:21 PM
looking forward to reading this book again and discussing lewis’ theology more in depth.
83. Drew
November 18, 2008
7:16 PM
I’m in - I was sorry I missed the train on Edwards. I’ve got a copy of Religious Affections I was assigned to read 10 years ago in Seminary. Maybe 2009 is the year (after we push through Lewis).
84. Jessica
November 18, 2008
7:51 PM
4th December in shall be!
Reading with you!
85. Rita Martinez
November 18, 2008
8:11 PM
ok ok last time I got left behind! reading Edwards while having to study everyday for med school AND having to read my bible everyday was too difficult a task for me….buttt this semester is nearly over and next semester will be far less demanding so i’m joining in again :D
86. Robert
November 18, 2008
8:35 PM
I would like to participate in your reading of Mere Christianity.
87. Lynn Cross
November 18, 2008
8:41 PM
I have read it many times, but want to read it again.
88. Deborah
November 18, 2008
8:51 PM
I started reading your blog when you were about half way through Edwards’ book. I have been waiting for the next read and I am looking forward to joining the discussion. Count me in!
89. Elizabeth
November 18, 2008
9:14 PM
At last I have time to join this again.
90. Susan Lankford
November 18, 2008
9:17 PM
Have never read it all the way through….this is the time to complete it! Susan
91. bob
November 18, 2008
9:29 PM
looking forward to joining you this time
92. Jon Smith
November 18, 2008
9:41 PM
I’m already brushing up on my copy, so count me in. Looking forward to it!
93. Tim Morrison
November 18, 2008
10:14 PM
I’m in for this one. Thanks!
94. Frank
November 18, 2008
11:00 PM
I’m in for this one, I read this 5 years ago right before my conversion so i pulled out my copy and found a marked page with this highlighted…. “Christ says ‘Give me all’, I don’t want so much of your time and so much of your money and so much of your work… I want you… I have not come to torment the old self… but to kill it! No half measures are any good, hand over the whole natural self and I will give you a new self. In fact I will give you myself.”
95. Heather
November 18, 2008
11:29 PM
Definately in. And looking forward to the discussions.
96. Chris
November 18, 2008
11:42 PM
IN.
97. Brother Eugene
November 18, 2008
11:53 PM
I’m in, although I probably won’t actually read along. I have read and listened to the book enough times over the past 9 years so that I’ll be able to follow along almost from memory.
I’ve been waiting for Tim to do a book review on one or more of C.S. Lewis’s books for a long time (The Screwtape Letters, The Problem of Pain, Mere Christianity), and this will be about the next best thing.
Thanks, Tim!
98. Jenny Hinton
November 18, 2008
11:58 PM
I’ll be a first-time reader here. I bought a copy for fifty cents at a yard sale two years ago but haven’t read it yet. My copy has a preface but does not have a forward? (That’s what you get at a yard sale!) Looking forward to it. Thanks for your ministry!
99. Bethany
November 19, 2008
12:48 AM
Count me in!
100. Jeff Coulter
November 19, 2008
2:05 AM
Count me in also!
101. Cathy
November 19, 2008
3:03 AM
I bought this book, read a chapter or two, but never got around to finishing it. I’m looking forward to the discussions… as it would help clarify things I don’t understand!
102. Jim Coyle
November 19, 2008
6:42 AM
Count me in
103. Eunice
November 19, 2008
8:03 AM
I’m in! I’ve been thinking about reading this book again - I first read it years ago when I was a new christian and didn’t understand a lot of it then. So I look forward to re-reading it from a new perspective.
104. maryanne
November 19, 2008
8:18 AM
Wow. I was planning to read this book next as I ,too, have been reading the classics…on my own. I just discovered this site through Days to Come. Thanks. I’ll be joining you!
105. Joe
November 19, 2008
8:53 AM
I will be reading along with you guys!
106. Jean Guth
November 19, 2008
9:30 AM
Looking forward to being part of this!
RELIGIOUS AFFECTIONS was a true blessing to my soul!
thanks…
107. Jim Crocker
November 19, 2008
9:59 AM
I’m in …
108. Gino Curcuruto
November 19, 2008
11:11 AM
Count me in this round! I’ve been wanting to re-read this book for a while. Thanks for the motivation.
109. Jenna
November 19, 2008
11:59 AM
I can’t wait to start!
110. Susanna
November 19, 2008
1:04 PM
I think I’ll do this! I’ve tried to read this book a few times before but haven’t made much head way so this will be a good means of feeling motivated!:)
111. Jennifer S
November 19, 2008
1:26 PM
I’m in.
112. WebbFan
November 19, 2008
1:42 PM
I’m in.
113. shroomAzoom
November 19, 2008
1:58 PM
I’ll give it a go.
114. Sandra
November 19, 2008
2:08 PM
Count me in! I actually got through reading this book earlier this year but I’m up for a reread to catch the unbiblical elements I might have missed the first time around.
I’m new to the “book club” but definitely will be keeping up going forward.
115. Heidi
November 19, 2008
2:21 PM
Tim,
I’m looking forward to joining you in the Mere Christianity reading and discussion. I’ve never made it through this book, although my husband has read it a number of times. This is just the encouragement I need to finally read it for myself.
~Heidi
116. jdantzlerw
November 19, 2008
2:27 PM
Looking forward to reading with you guys. I’ve skimmed it a few times but never really “read” it.
117. Ian W
November 19, 2008
2:44 PM
I’m in.
118. Jen
November 19, 2008
4:27 PM
Looking forward to finally reading this book all the way through!
119. Sonya
November 19, 2008
5:24 PM
This is my first time to participate and I’m excited about the opportunity. Thanks.
120. Anna
November 19, 2008
6:30 PM
I’m in….never read this one in a group before, only solo.
121. Doug
November 19, 2008
10:02 PM
I am looking forward to joining you. I came to your web site in about the middle of Religious Affections, so this will be my first opportunity to join you all. It has been so long since I read it that it will be pretty much like reading it for the first time.
122. Linda Herick
November 20, 2008
9:27 AM
Really wanted to join in the Edwards book but did not locate a copy in time (printed the weekly discussion, hope to revisit it on my own) - I have this one, read it years ago and am looking forward to participating in the group read!
123. Michelle W.
November 20, 2008
11:22 AM
I’m in.
124. Jacqueline
November 20, 2008
11:41 AM
I’m in too and looking forward to it. I haven’t read this book in over 10 years.
125. Laurel-Anne
November 20, 2008
12:42 PM
I’ll be there…
126. Adam Harward
November 20, 2008
1:09 PM
I’m in, for the first time.
127. Tony
November 20, 2008
3:52 PM
I’m in.
128. Corey
November 20, 2008
8:30 PM
Im in for the first time.
129. maddyboombastic
November 21, 2008
11:28 AM
Count me in!
130. RC
November 21, 2008
1:52 PM
Thanks for starting and continuing the “Reading the Classics” project. This will the first book I will be able to read along with the rest of the group.
131. Dawson Bryant
November 21, 2008
7:31 PM
Looking forward to my first “Reading the Classics Together”
132. Amanda
November 21, 2008
10:40 PM
My husband, my friend, her husband and I are all going to read the book and follow with you.
133. Paul Van Stralen
November 22, 2008
2:56 AM
Sign me up!
134. Cheri
November 22, 2008
7:53 AM
I’m in.
135. Todd
November 22, 2008
1:51 PM
Found your blog as a recommended site on my Google Reader. I look forward to joining you next month.
136. Carol
November 22, 2008
2:00 PM
I’ve always wanted to read this book. This will be a great encouragement!
137. Rebecca
November 22, 2008
4:27 PM
I’m In! :-)
138. staffaction
November 22, 2008
10:23 PM
I’m In!
139. Steve Baker
November 23, 2008
1:02 PM
I’m in! I read Mere Christianity years ago and it was very helpful to me then. It was also very influential in my father’s coming to Christ.
140. Vicky
November 23, 2008
2:06 PM
Count me in also.
141. Jackie
November 23, 2008
2:08 PM
I plan on reading/participating.
I read this when I was a brand new believer.
Will you be sending a reminder?
142. Stuart Page
November 23, 2008
10:13 PM
I am in.
143. Jessica
November 24, 2008
12:23 AM
Hi, I love this book and am interested to hear the criticisms, I’m in.
144. kim
November 24, 2008
1:55 PM
I’m in. I’ve read it before, gave away my copy, so had to actually buy another one. But, all for a good cause! :)
145. brandon
November 24, 2008
4:01 PM
if this works, it will be the first successful reading of a complete book for me in the past 8 months. Including this book Mere Christianity…
146. Raylene in Texas
November 24, 2008
6:02 PM
Count me in…I’m a newbie to all this blogging stuff but love the idea of reading along with lots of other people…read this book years ago.
147. Jenna
November 25, 2008
3:47 AM
I would like to read this again. It has been a few years. We have had a hard time keeping copies in our house, as my daughter has given several away.
148. Lisa
November 25, 2008
12:26 PM
I’m in! I love book groups—iron sharpens iron.
149. Darin
November 25, 2008
3:29 PM
I’m in! I have had this book on the shelf for a couple of years and need to read it. :)
150. Barry Wallace
November 25, 2008
7:19 PM
I’m in. I’ve read the book a couple of times, but look forward to reading it again.
151. Tricia
November 28, 2008
11:38 PM
I’m in. Looking forward to it.
152. Judy
December 1, 2008
2:00 PM
I’m in. Started reading it as a new Christian, and it didn’t “sit right” with me, so I stuffed it in the cabinet. Hope to get good, constructive feedback, in order to be a more discerning reader.
153. Brenda N.
December 1, 2008
9:13 PM
I would like to participate.
154. Viv
December 2, 2008
8:54 AM
Been meaning to read this for donkeys’ years! Thanks for the push.