D.A. Carson on Worship

This quote comes courtesy of D.A. Carson and the book he edited entitled Worship by the Book. It seemed appropriate in light of what I posted this morning. Carson has just defined worship and is now expanding on his definition. I have bolded the section that I found most edifying.

“In an age increasingly suspicious of (linear) thought, there is much more respect for the “feelings” of things - whether a film or a church service. It is disturbingly easy to plot surveys of people, especially young people, drifting from a church of excellent preaching and teaching to one with excellent music because, it is alleged, there is “better worship” there. But we need to think carefully about this matter. Let us restrict ourselves for the moment to corporate worship. Although there are things that can be done to enhance corporate worship, there is a profound sense in which excellent worship cannot be attained merely by pursuing excellent worship. In the same way that, according to Jesus, you cannot find yourself until you lose yourself, so also you cannot find excellent corporate worship until you stop trying to find excellent corporate worship and pursue God himself. Despite the protestations, one sometimes wonders if we are beginning to worship worship rather than worship God. As a brother put it to me, it’s a bit like those who begin by admiring the sunset and soon begin to admire themselves admiring the sunset.

This point is acknowledged in a praise chorus like “Let’s forget about ourselves, and magnify the Lord, and worship him.” The trouble is that after you have sung this repetitious chorus three of four times, you are no farther ahead. The way you forget about yourself is by focusing on God—not by singing about doing it, but by doing it. There are far too choruses and services and sermons that expand our vision of God—his attributes, his works, his character, his words. Some think that corporate worship is good because it is lively where it had been dull. But it may also be shallow where it is lively, leaving people dissatisfied and restless in a few months’ time. Sheep lie down when they are well fed (cf. Psalm 23:2); they are more likely to be restless when they are hungry. “Feed my sheep,” Jesus commanded Peter (John 21); and many sheep are unfed. If you wish to deepen the worship of the people of God, above all deepen their grasp of his ineffable majesty in his person and in all his works.

We do not expect the garage mechanic to expatiate on the wonders of his tools; we expect him to fix the car. He must know how to use his tools, but he must not lose sight of the goal. So we dare not focus on the mechanics of corporate worship and lose sight of the goal. We focus on God himself, and thus we become more godly and learn to worship—and collaterally we learn to edify one another, forbear with one another, challenge one another.”

Comments (10)

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Anonymous's picture

First time leaving a message….how I wish the “worhsip leader” at my church would read this. Our music is soooo repititious that I end up not singing because I’ve sang the same line 3 times in a row already…

And he is correct, it is very shallow. And this is what worries me. Most people will remember what they sang in church rather than the sermon. When things are put to song, they are just easier to remember. So, that is what worries me, that the songs are shallow at best, and contain very bad theology at worst.

Can’t we all just get some psalms.

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Anonymous's picture

Jeremiah 10:6-7:There is none like You, O LORD; You are great, and great is Your name in might. Who would not fear You, O King of the nations? Indeed it is Your due! For among all the wise men of the nations And in all their kingdoms, there is none like You.

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Glenn,I sympathize with you brother. How is it that men who “lead” in worship, and apparently meet the qualifications for leadership set forth in Titus and Timothy, which are nothing more than the fruit of Spirit-enabled consistent application of the word of God in every other sphere of there life, are oblivious to the fact that this same Spirit has, in his word, given us 150 excellent examples of God-centered, Christ-honoring songs right smack in the middle of our Bibles! And we don’t sing them! And we don’t spend any effort re-writing them into contemporary language. And we don’t spend any effort choosing/writing music suitable to the tenor of the individual psalm. And in the end, it is we, who long for his presence in our worship, who suffer…Children love repetition, as it helps their memory. But how long shall we remain children?

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Anonymous's picture

…you cannot find excellent corporate worship until you stop trying to find excellent corporate worship and pursue God himself.

Just a side note—

Isn’t this true about all aspects of the Christian life. You can’t find faith by pursuing faith, you can’t find obedience by pursuing obedience, etc., etc.

We must pursue God himself.

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Anonymous's picture

I was listening to a message on tape the other day about singing to the glory of God. One thought-provoking that was made was to point out how little corporate singing there is in the NT church. It is not listed in Ac 2:42, for example.

This is not to say we should not sing (they sang in the OT), but to suggest it is not the priority that we often make it out to be.

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Anonymous's picture

Tim,Thanks for this post. It is so in-line with what I have been preaching and teaching the congregation for the last six months. I have placed a very high emphasis on the reading, hearing and learning of the Scripture; instead of the mind numbing, babble of the modern chorus-fed, zombie-ism that is now being pushed in the mega-churches of our area. It sounds like a vast multitude of brainwashed, adolescents repeating a mantra that they do not believe nor understand. It sickens the soul and blinds the mind through its drone of “warm-fuzzy” ecstasy and false security through emotional highs and lows. The product is a congregation of emotional train-wrecks throughout the week and addictive plastic smiles on worship day.

Oh how far we have wondered from the basic truth. “So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.” Romans 10:17 KJV

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Anonymous's picture

i don’t see why people say we should sing psalms all the time. lots of psalms i read seem pretty personal, not to mention profoundly depressing/depressed. i wouldn’t necessarily want to sing them in corporate worship. i think there’s a difference between personal and corporate.

anyway, i like d.a. carson a lot. good two posts.

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Anonymous's picture

The fact that some of the psalms are so depressing and that their tenor clashes with what we are used to is a sure sign that our corporate worship is communicating the wrong message.

Every Sunday people come to church who have just lost a child or a parent, whose finances are in a mess, or whose spouse is abusive, etc. The last thing they need is to be told to put a smile on their face and sing some happy-clappy mantra, acting like there are no troubles in life.

This is precisely why we need to recover singing the depressing songs. They are so much more realistic. Most choruses suffer from over-realized eschatology, as though we are already in the new heavens and new earth. The psalms proclaim the joy of a pilgrim people, still suffering, still mourning, still feeling death in their mortal flesh and the law’s sting. But our joy is not a giddy foolishness; it is a deep joy that looks in faith at what it does not yet see, the future redemption of our bodies. This is why we should recover realistic songs.

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Anonymous's picture

I could not agree more with Chase. I am currently reading a book on the complaint psalms reflecting this point. The psalms are a great example of worship which covers the entire span of the human experience and relationships with God.

Separately, I think a lot of this has to do with whether we feel a worship service is something we do for God, or if it is something God does for us. I personally feel it is something God does for us; where we are fed with the Word and encouraged by the Holy Spirit as community. Our praise is simply an expression of who we are in this context.

-Pete

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Anonymous's picture

I feel like this all wraps in with the Emerging Church Movement….

Contemporary churches seem to be taking non-religious approaches to share the truth… but don’t you think that the value of the truth is being lost when this happens?? What do you think?