Book Review - "Vintage Jesus" by Mark Driscoll

Vintage Jesus by Mark DriscollVintage Jesus is the first book published under the banner of Resurgence Literature (Re:Lit) which is a ministry of Resurgence (which is, in turn supported by Mars Hill Church). This is also the first title in a series called "Vintage Jesus" that will build on the themes and doctrines introduced in this book. It is one of six(!) new books we'll see this year from the pen of Mark Driscoll. The book is a collaborative project between friends--Mark Driscoll and Gary Breshears. Describing how this collaboration unfolded, Driscoll writes, "In the chapters of this book you will hear my voice since I crafted the words onto pages, but many of the concepts were shaped and formed by my good friend. I sent the manuscript to him for his insights and suggestions, and he also wrote the answers to common questions found at the end of each chapter." Their hope is that "this book will be readable, practical, and biblical so that everyone from seminary professors and pastors to non-Christians would benefit from our work."

Those expecting another Radical Reformission or Confessions of a Reformission Rev will not find it here. This book, though still written by Mark Driscoll and still laced with the humor and unique writing style we've come to expect from him, is in a whole different category. The bulk of the book is simply straightforward, biblical teaching about the person and work of Jesus Christ. It also engages in some light apologetics, defending Jesus against the countless caricatures of Him that have arisen through the history of the church. The book offers "timeless answers to timely questions" and in that way is meant to speak to some of the strange and unorthodox teaching that we see in the church and outside it today. As Bruce Ware says in his endorsement, "Vintage Jesus offers a fresh, engaging, and insightful discussion of some of the oldest and most crucial truths about Jesus Christ that constitute the very core of the gospel itself."

As Driscoll covers this ground, you'll find some things that are funny, some that are profound, and some that are, in my opinion, in poor taste. I will provide a few brief examples of each.

There are some portions of the book that have the Driscoll flair that so many people have come to love. Some may just leave you laughing out loud.

  • "Jesus was a dude. Like my drywaller dad, he was a construction worker who swung a hammer for a living. Because Jesus worked in a day when there were no power tools, he likely had calluses on his hands and muscles on his frame, and did not look like so many of the drag-queen Jesus images that portray him with long, flowing, feathered hair, perfect teeth, and soft skin, draped in a comfortable dress accessorized by matching open-toed sandals and handbag. Jesus did not have Elton John or the Spice Girls on his iPod, *The View* on his TiVo, or a lemon-yellow Volkswagen Beetle in his garage. No, Jesus was not the kind of person who, if walking by you on the street, would require you to look for an Adam's apple to determine the gender."
  • "The Orthodox and Catholic baby Jesus pictures are simply freakish, with him looking like a Mini-Me complete with a halo. Honestly, if I had a kid like that I would sleep with one eye open."
  • "Sadly, the Catholic Church in which I was raised and served as an altar boy missed the punch line when Jesus called Peter the Rock and, rather than a good laugh, ended up with the papacy."
  • "Jesus also tells some Sunday school teachers they are going to hell, which made the universalistic Emergent folks immediately engage in a conversation about the mythology of hell and fingerpaint about the emotional wounds caused by his words."

Like many who will read this book, I appreciate how Driscoll is able to communicate real truth in a way that is accessible and funny. He is able to poke fun at the way people think about Jesus and do so in a way that makes those beliefs seem so utterly ridiculous. He has his finger on the pulse of this culture and is able to speak to it.

But sometimes this humor gets a little out of hand. There are some portions of the book that I felt went beyond good humor and crossed the line into what is inappropriate. This is a common critique of what Driscoll says and writes and, I suppose, some were hoping that his transition from publishing with Zondervan to publishing with Crossway would signal the end of such statements. Somehow, while these statements may not seem so out of place in a Zondervan book, I had hoped for better from Crossway. I can't help but feel that certain words and phrases must mark a kind of low point for Crossway. Perhaps the editorial staff weeded out more and worse. But I think you'd be hard pressed to find any other Crossway title with this kind of language. I hope it is the last.

For example, when looking at the humanity of Jesus, Driscoll chooses to say that Jesus told the Pharisees "that their moms had shagged the Devil." Though what the Lord said may have such connotations, that particular phrase seems out-of-place and unnecessary. It's flippant and it makes light of serious subject matter. Similarly, a heading in the chapter entitled "Why did Jesus' Mom Need to Be a Virgin" reads, "Scripture does not teach that Mary knocked boots with God." While it is true that the Bible does not indicate that there was some kind of sexual relationship between Mary and God, using this particular term seems beyond good taste. The same phrase (and a passing supposedly-humorous reference to incest) appears on the book's first page:

  • Roughly two thousand years ago, Jesus was born in a dumpy, rural, hick town, not unlike those today where guys change their own oil, think pro wrestling is real, find women who chew tobacco sexy, and eat a lot of Hot Pockets with their uncle-daddy. Jesus' mom was a poor, unwed teenage girl who was mocked for claiming she conceived via the Holy Spirit. Most people thought she concocted a crazy story to cover the "fact" she was knocking boots with some guy in the backseat of a car at the prom. Jesus was adopted by a simple carpenter named Joseph and spent the first thirty years of his life in obscurity, swinging a hammer with his dad.

It is interesting to compare how D.A. Carson handled the Pharisee's talk in his commentary on the book of John. He writes, "It is not at all impossible that the Jews are alluding to the irregularities connected with Jesus' birth. From their perspective, he displays considerable cheek to talk about paternity: they were not born of fornication (wink, wink). If this is a correct reading, then it is a further instance of Johannine irony..." The point is the same, but Carson preserves a kind of dignity absent in Driscoll's description. This is not just anyone we are talking about here, but our Lord and Savior--the Son of God. Surely we ought to treat His conception and birth with more respect and dignity than this.

What bothers me is not just the use of these phrases, but the utter non-necessity of doing so. They are designed to illicit laughs and perhaps show people how edgy Driscoll is. But they are, in my estimation, completely unnecessary, especially since Driscoll is perfectly capable of being humorous without being dirty. The book would not suffer at all without them. It is easy to gain laughs through such words and phrases, but just because we are able do so, I don't think we necessarily should. Thankfully such examples are rare (though one could argue that their rarity proves how unnecessary they are). There is so much more to Driscoll than his sense of humor and his edginess. I hope that sooner or later he becomes known for what he does that pleases God rather than what he does that shocks the masses. In some cases I'm convinced they are not the same thing.

Of course there are also many portions of the book that gave me a lot to think about and showed some very good depth of insight. Here are just a few examples:

  • "The warm, soft truth is that for those who do love Jesus, this life is as close to hell as they will ever get. Heaven awaits them."
  • Sadly, it is too common for churches not to speak of Jesus, which is a tragedy akin to a wife rarely uttering the name of her own husband. In our day when there are innumerable contradictory beliefs about who God is, Christians must be clear that their God is Jesus Christ alone so as to communicate the same central truth that Scripture does. No matter how many verses are used, the Bible has not been rightly understood or proclaimed unless Jesus is the central focus and hero."
  • "Sadly, some Christians and some Christian leaders, while not denying the cross, prefer to keep it out of plain view because they wrongly believe that nice, decent people hate to have their sensibilities offended by such violence and gore. Consequently, the word has gotten out that being a Christian is about avoiding the suffering, pain, and horrors of this life by living in a safe, zip-locked Christian plastic bag filled with diversionary worship songs to prom-date Jesus so we don't have to pick up any cross or shed any tears.

Statements like these, combined with the book's biblical foundation and the addition of several poignant descriptions of moments from Driscoll's ministry, make it a valuable read. Those who read it are likely to learn from each of the chapters. The teaching is powerful, biblical and weighty. This is solid food.

But would I recommend you read it? That is a tough question for me to answer. And no matter what I say, someone is going to disagree with me (and quite strenuously too, no doubt). To be honest, there are some people to whom I'd definitely hesitate to recommend it. I would certainly not be happy if Driscoll, standing face-to-face with my wife or my children, used some of the words and phrases in this book. Why then would I hand them the book and recommend that they read it? There is certainly much to gain from Vintage Jesus and I'm sure that many will read it and will benefit. But I'm sorry that Driscoll had to cross the line of good taste, even if only occasionally. It does not invalidate the book, but neither does it make it any better. It was so utterly unnecessary.

Comments (66)

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Anonymous's picture

Steve Camp - “But we all know that the leadership at Mark’s Hill Church is not strong enough to stand up to him; or they would have done so already.”

That is a pretty judgmental statement. Who died and crowned you pope.

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I’m 26 and I do not connect with his imagery in the ways that are labeled “offensive.” It just doesn’t do it for me. I think the younger generation ought to know how to address topics such as these with grace. “Let your speech always be gracious, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how you ought to answer each person.” Col. 4:6

I think one should always be cautious.

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Anonymous's picture

Brianmetz, if you read Steve Camp’s comments around the blog world on Driscoll you will notice that he long ago crowned himself judge and jury. Yet he continually makes false claims about Driscoll and is unwilling to listen to any voice but his own. Steve has repeatedly called Driscoll and prideful and unwilling to be humbled but this runs contrary to many of Driscoll’s public confessions and sermons on humility and his need to continue to grow. In all honesty it seems that Steve always for humanity and imperfection in everyone else but Driscoll. We all know Driscoll is not perfect but I do not know any pastor that is. I do know the guy is growing and willing to confess his sins and failures, I wish we saw that same humility from Steve Camp in all his fundamentalism.

Plus I do find it a bit ironic that Tim seems to take quite a few shots at Vintage Jesus and unwilling to fully endorse it, but has advertising banners for it on the same blog! So for those of you patting him on the back for standing up to Crossway you might want to look at the Vintage Jesus banners that can still be found here.

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Anonymous's picture

Thanks for the review. Good thoughts.

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Anonymous's picture

Steve Camp’s comment was sufficiently inflammatory that I decided to remove it. Camp’s thoughts on Driscoll are well-known and I’m not really interested in allowing them to derail this discussion!

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Anonymous's picture

Too fun - if anyone is going to buy the book - click through Challies’ banner ad to give him the credit. I love Tim’s work on this site (and others) and want to see it increase in quan.

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Anonymous's picture

I guess if Mr. Camp wants to beat us over the head with those verses thats fine. He’s seems to be pretty good at it and It’s obvious he’s studied up and I’m all for getting people to study the Bible. The thing I’m having trouble with is the passages no ones quoted so far about bringing a charge against a pastor/elder—all of which make his preaching and way he does it none of our business.

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Plus I do find it a bit ironic that Tim seems to take quite a few shots at Vintage Jesus and unwilling to fully endorse it, but has advertising banners for it on the same blog! So for those of you patting him on the back for standing up to Crossway you might want to look at the Vintage Jesus banners that can still be found here.

It’s a funny coincidence, isn’t it? It’s amazing that it took over 50 comments for someone to point it out. The banner went up before I had finished reading and reviewing the ad (the publisher pays for ad space on this site and rotates banners on a weekly basis). When I actually wrote the review and saw the banner…and it got me thinking.

But I decided to let it stay. After all, I really do think this is mostly a good book and I hope my review made that clear. There were three or four brief portions that I felt were over the top. Beyond those I think it’s a good book. So I felt I could, in good conscience, leave the banner in place.

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Anonymous's picture

When I think of the pharisees I think of a bunch of people that would get all caught up in terms like “knockin’ boots,” and totally fail to see how that kind of self-superiority walks hand in hand with running through the streets screaming, “Unclean! Unclean!”

I wonder how upset some of you are going to be when MD invites himself over to a tax collectors house for supper.

Maybe we should work harder at presenting the Gospel to people in a language that they can understand. We should speak to our grandmothers with one form of speech, and to babies with another. I speak to my grandmother loudly and very slowly…she doesn’t usually understand me. I speak to my baby son in fast paced gibberish that is unintelligible and he seems to understand every word. If I reversed the order they would both feel either scolded or mocked.

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Anonymous's picture

Tim,

Thank you for deleting the comment by SJ Camp. There are many that I see commenting here that I have seen commenting in other places on Mark Driscoll. It has almost become a crusade. Thanks for moderating your comments and not letting it get out of hand.

Back in comment #10 I predicted this would happen, now, I am not a prophet or a son of a prophet but…

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Anonymous's picture

I’m saddened by reading the comment section on this review. There is a lack of charity by those both pro- and anti-Driscoll.

Maybe Driscoll does cross the line sometimes. I think this is probably true. In seeking to speak a language 20- and 30-somethings easily understand, Driscoll dances right up to the edge of good taste and sometimes slips over it. And that’s the reservation Piper and Dever have about him.

But maybe he is doing a better job of contextualization than most evangelicals are. Some of the comments of scandalized critics are telling. The reality is that for a 25 year old male asking questions about Jesus, the last thing I am going to hand them is something written by D.A. Carson. And unless that 25 year old is the sort of Upper West Side elite or Greenwich Village creatnik that Tim Keller seems to speak so well to, I’m not sure that his writings are going to be all that helpful.

Maybe “knocking boots” is a bit too crass. Okay, nevermind the “maybe” — it is crass. But “fornicating” sounds just like the kind of stuffy, holier-than-thou sort of language that alienates the generation that Driscoll is having such success reaching. (Maybe if we left the “g” off and replaced it with an apostrophe…)

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But “fornicating” sounds just like the kind of stuffy, holier-than-thou sort of language that alienates the generation that Driscoll is having such success reaching. ”

There were two 21 year old commenters here that would disagree with your thought.

The problem is that we are dumbing down our youth. I remember having to study William Shakesphear in High School, and I hated it, but the teachers taught us what the words meant.

I believe the English language is broad, and there are many appropriate words we can use, and then take a few seconda to eplain what they mean. This is the way to edify the soul, and renew the mind.I was a below average English student, and I now love to hear different words, and learn there meanings.

If Pastor Driscoll is using crude language for the glory of God, and it pleases God, then he should do it, and then God will commend him on the Day of judgement.If he isn’t, then he needs to repent, or he will be judged. The Bible says “Be not many teachers, for greter is your condemnation”.

I’m sure Mark Driscoll knows this, and so he must believe his language is pleasing to the Lord.

Personally, I don’t like it, and it doesn’t edify me at all. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth.Though, at the same time I appreciate much of what Pastor Driscoll is doing for the Lord. He is young and has a long way to go. We need to pray for him, for Satan would love to sift him, as he does all God’s shepherds.

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Don,

Use big words like, justification, sanctification, imputation, glorification ?[kind sarcasm implied] Oh, wait, Mark Driscoll does use those words and explain them fully. (Go to his sermon on Philippians 3:1-11 if you don’t believe me) That has been the biggest surprise for me. A man that at first glance that I thought was vulgar, largely by the comments of others, was teaching sound theology by using theological terms.

I teach young people. I agree with what you are saying about dumbing down the language. (It drives me nuts) Mark Driscoll does use ‘dumbed down language’ sometimes but I have heard him use it to ‘meet people where they are at’ and then turn around and ‘take them where they should be’ by teaching theology.

I have seen you on the web and you comments are always filled with grace so I do not think you are being caustic here. I agree with much you have said, but realize that the majority of what Mark Driscoll is teaching is sound, theological, and non-vulgar in nature. I think that is what Tim is saying in his review.

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Anonymous's picture

Cindy,

You can see the heart of a man to determine ‘everyone has their price’? Ouch, not very charitable my sister! Be careful! Prv. 20:5; 21:2

I appreciate much of what Steve says on his blog but I think Tim was right this time.

Remember you cannot know the heart of any other person because you do not even know your heart fully. (Jer. 17:9) You can disagree with Tim’s methods, and his message but you cannot read his heart. This is what Paul was getting at in 1 Cor. 4:4,5.

I will be in an Elder’s meeting, so, I better sign off. All of you have a nice conversation, but let’s keep it brotherly and sisterly :)

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Anonymous's picture

We often don’t realize that our prudish way of speaking was largely shaped by British culture and written word. Vernacular is not getting more coarse. It has always been this real. While I think f-patois (to use Wolfe’s term) reveals a lack of imagination, Driscoll’s language rather demonstrates incredible creativity. If we don’t like to hear about real life in real terms we might wonder whether we are dealing with reality. Prudishness has done great harm to the church and adds nothing to it.

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Anonymous's picture

Well, I guess it’s time to shut this one down. I suspect that not much good can come from it from here on out…