Call The Sabbath A Delight

SabbathI recently heard someone say “I follow all 9 of the 10 commandments.” It is true, isn’t it, that we continue to regard each of the other 9 commandments as being integral to the Christian life, but have disregarded the fourth. A few years ago I read an article written by an unbeliever and published in a major newspaper where she questioned how Christians could simply disregard this commandment. Her conclusion was that it was mere disobedience - that Christians disregarded the commandment simply because following it would conflict with our lifestyles. Was she on to something, or did she merely misunderstand the relationship of the Old Testament to the New - a very common problem with believers and unbelievers alike?

Call The Sabbath A Delight is the first book I have read dedicated entirely to the subject of Sabbath observance in the post Old Testament era. I have read bits and pieces of information regarding why we should or should not continue to honor the fourth commandment, but never a book-length treatment. This particular book is published by Banner of Truth which should give a pretty good indication of which side the author will take. He represents the view that I was raised with. I was raised in a Presbyterian home and attended Reformed schools and churches and was continually admonished to keep the Sabbath holy. I spent one year of my life in Scotland and there we were taught that we were not even to play with friends on Sunday, but were instead to read our Bibles and study our Catechisms. While the author, Walter Chandry, may not be that strict, he clearly believes that Christians have abandoned a practice which we need to rediscover out of obedience to God.

A common argument against observing the Sabbath in our time is that Christ did away with the moral Law when He died for us. Underlying this observation is a belief or assumption that the Sabbath was somehow a burdensome obligation for God’s people, but nothing could be farther from the truth. The Sabbath was a creation ordinance, for even in a perfect world God rested on the seventh day and declared it as being set apart to Him. So when we examine this issue we need to do so free from a bias that the Sabbath was an obligation. On the contrary it was a wonderful privilege, given by a loving God. Any harm that befell the day was the fault of sinful humans who are adept at turning anything wonderful into something burdensome.

The author covers the following topics:

  1. The Commandment is Holy
  2. The Commandment is Spiritual
  3. The Commandment is Good
  4. Does the NT Teach the 4th Commandment?
  5. Sabbath Observance: Mosaic and Christian
  6. Motives for Sabbath-Keeping
  7. Which Day of the Week in the Sabbath?
  8. Difficult Cases of Conscience

I will leave you to read his arguments on your own if the topic interests you. His conclusion is that the Sabbath, as a creation ordinance, continues to this day so that God requires that we continue to honor it even today. “No age has ever more intensely needed Sabbath-keeping than ours. Attempts to scrap God’s moral law and to replace it with institutions and schemes of human invention are miserably failing. Sabbath-keeping in isolation is not an answer to all man’s ills. Yet, this law is intimately related to all others and has a necessary connection with the other branches of God’s moral code. Where even small segments of mankind have succeeded in implementing a joyful observance of the Sabbath, they have reaped enormous benefit. It is time for us, too, to call the Sabbath a delight and to return unto the Lord.”

While his arguments are compelling, I am not sure that they are strong enough to convict the evangelical who has never even considered that the Sabbath may extend to our day. His argument is valuable, though, for it represents the view held by many Presbyterian and Reformed believers. Their belief is one which many, if not the majority, of Christians held until recent times.

As for me, I admit with some shame that I do not honor the Sabbath as I used to. I refrain from working and try to set the day apart, but certainly do not treat the day in a way which would make my Presbyterian friends proud. Do I believe that the church would benefit from returning to honoring the Sabbath? I certainly do. But do I truly believe this is an obligation? That is where I am not quite so sure. I struggle with this issue and intend to keep reading about it, studying both perspectives.

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Jeremy. Thank you for the response. I agree that it is likely that it could have been Sunday. You seem pretty confident that it was in fact Sunday. The comments in my Bible also say this. I am not disagreeing with you, but could you tell me why you and many others feel this way? I am not a SDA, I just wanted to know why people believe John was referring to Sunday in this verse.

Anyone else who know is more the welcome to answer also. Thanks.

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The place of the 10 Commandments in the life of the Christian today cannot be considered without reference to the Scripture’s definition of sin. Christians understand sin as any transgression of God’s law. God gave us His law, specifically His, so-called, moral law to help us understand Him, His nature. When we behave contrary to God’s nature, we sin. God’s nature is unchanging and so moral transgression will always be the same. Christ bore the punishment for sin on the cross, that is, all transgressions by sinful man as a result of their rejection of God - the sin of a new covenant believer is the same as the sin of an old covenant believer.The clear message of the NT (in fact the whole Bible) is that we cannot earn God’s acceptance - the law (a mirror or reflection of God’s perfect nature) was given to us to reveal our sin, to drive us to Christ. Where there is no law there is no sin.Those who argue that God’s moral law (as written by the finger of God on stone and written on our hearts) is no longer binding must explain how God’s nature has changed.They must also explain what law the NT writers referred to. For example…James 2:10 “For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all”. Here James must be referring to the moral law, the Ten Commandments, because he mentions two of them in the context.Rom 2:14-15 “For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves, in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them…”. The law written on the hearts of the Gentiles was the moral law (see the sins referred to in the context), the Ten Commandments. Would not Paul’s readers have understood this?

Phil - In Gal 4 and other NT passages, the Scripture is not asking the hearers to abandon the “Sabbath”. He is rebuking those who, throughout the NT, wanted to add to the requirements of the law for Gentile converts (e.g. circumcision) and had even added requirements for Jews e.g. additional Sabbaths (beyond the once/wk observation) and various festivals/feast days. Jesus, in the Sermon on the Mount had to correct the Jewish leaders on similar misinterpretations - His teaching on the Law was clear. Matt 22:37-40 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law? Jesus replied: ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbour as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments”. Was not Jesus summarizing the Ten Commandments? The first four commandments define our duty to our Creator and the final six our duty to our neighbor.

Let every friend of Christ keep the Lord’s Day as a festival, the resurrection day, the queen and chief of all the days of the week.’ Ignatius

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I keep the Sabbath and I find it truly a delight. I look forward to it every week. It is not legalism. Legalism is following the commands of men. The ten commandments, including the Sabbath are forever. Isaiah 66 says we will keep the Sabbath in heaven. The Lord does not change. The sabbaths which were done away with such as mentioned in Col 2 are referring to the cerimonial sabbaths. These were no longer needed after the cross. You can try to rationalize it away as much as you like but they are still in effect. The new covenant God says He will put His laws in our hearts (if you let Him!) For more information check out http://www.Sabbathtruth.com. Have a Happy Sabbath! I do.Linda

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Dear Mr. Challies,

B. B. Warfield called federal (covenant) theology the, “architectonic principle” of the Westminster Confession of Faith.Johannes Cocceius is understood by some to be the ‘father of federal theology’ and perhaps by all to be it’s primary contributor yet he did not believe that the Mosaic Sabbath was binding on the Christian. For this he was called antinomian.Cocceius, Calvin, Luther, Bunyan are all big names. Yet it appears likely that they none of them would subscribe to the WCF on the issue of the Sabbath. This gives me cause to pause.You say you can’t get past the ‘why only nine of ten’ question. Perhaps you are asking the wrong question. Perhaps your true obstacle is not the scripture but the system through which you view it. Perhaps you are cutting the non-fitting corners of the sheet of truth to fit your systematic bed.The WCF could be wrong. It’s architectonic principle might contain bugs. Your difficult question may only exist because your system led you to ask it. If the system contains incorrect presuppositions it will lead you to ask the wrong questions. History, or my limited knowledge of it, seems to say that the WCF codified Sabbath observance for the Christian more than any document prior, including the Bible. Perhaps the divines were correct, I believe they were not. All I can say for sure is that it fits well into their system.

Warmly,Dave Curell

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Stephen, the problem with equating the Decalogue with God’s eternal “moral law” is two-fold. First, Scripture nowhere supports this definition. To Jews, both then and now, the “law” is the entire Torah. The 10 Commandments are not separated out as God’s eternal moral law. In fact, they are called the words of the covenant (meaning the Sinai covenant) in the Torah, and Galatians 3 clearly shows that the law was given 430 years after Abraham until the Seed (Jesus) would come.

In addition, in the Sermon on the Mount Jesus clearly expanded the law. He not only expanded many of the 10 Commandments, He expanded other laws not listed in the 10. He made it very clear that true morality goes to the hearts and motives of people and is never measured by behavior. Righteousness is not evaluated by our good deeds.

Second, the law God wrote on the tables of stone with His finger is not The Eternal Law. God didn’t write those commandments until millennia after Creation. Further, those tables of stone are nowhere to be found today. (Imagine what an icon they would have been had God allowed them to be accessible!) As Paul explains in Galatians, those tables of stone, the heart of God’s covenant with Israel—the conditional Mosaic Covenant—were temporary. They represented the covenant that God established with israel and that lasted until the Seed came.

The Decalogue was only an elementary outline of general good behavior. As I mentioned earlier, the Sermon on the Mount revealed far more of God’s Law than the Decalogue did. In fact, the entire New Testament reveals a far more comprehnsive morality than the law ever did. The NT demands that we live by the Spirit—that we give up our control and our striving and submit to God’s personal and detailed discipline and direction.

It is such a straw-man argument to assume that people are straying into antinomianism by saying the 10 Commandments are not our rule of practice in the New Testament. A true Christ-follower takes morality and living by the Spirit very seriously.

If the Decalogue were God’s Eternal Law, then it would be on a level with Almighty God—eternal and undending. Quite on the contrary, God created the Decalogue hundreds of years after He created the world. He summarized civil behavior to bring people into an awareness of their own sinfulness.

Romans 5 shows that even though people from the time of Adam to the time of Moses did not sin by breaking a command—only Adam was guilty of that sin until the law was given—still they were sinful because they were In Adam. But God did not hold them guilty of sins for which they were unaware. They were NOT innocent; they were doomed and sinners by nature. Still, they were not guilty of breaking the law.

God’s Eternal Law is Himself. He is, in Himself, eternal Justice, Mercy, Grace, Wrath, Love, Life, LIght..all His attributes are eternally, intrinsically Him. The Decalogue was an elementary and simplified primer given to truly fallen mankind to begin to teach them that they were guilty of intrinsic sin. God gave them the law so they would become aware of their sin and of their inability to do His will.

Now we have Jesus Himself—eternal God, the Living, Eternal Law—acting as our Law. Because we are awakened in Him and reconnected to Him through Jesus’ blood, we have access to the Father by one Spirit. We don’t need a temporary, abridged version of the eternal law of God to convict us of sin or to show us how to live.

True, the decalogue is still useful for pointing out sin to people who haven’t met Jesus. But once we are in Him, we are to live by the Spirit (Romans 8).

The only reason I can imagine that people desire to “hang onto the declague” is the fourth commandment. The NT is far more detailed than the 10 Commandments in terms of God’s expectations for us when we are in Him. The fourth commandment is the sticky point.

Unless we understand the asonishing revelation of Hebrews, Galatians, Colossians, Romans, Ephesians, etc., we don’t really see that Jesus actually fulfilled all the OT law. He fulfilled the promise of the Sabath shadow. In Him we find our eternal rest.

None of this negates a “day off” to rest, meditate, etc. But Romans 14 clarifies that such a day is NOT mandated. Jesus Himself transforms the way we live. We are completely new creatures in Christ. We are spiritually alive instead of spiritually dead.

We’re not throwing out morality. We are, rather, embracing the Eternal, Living Law of Morality instead of the stone condensed version that was intended for the specific purpose of educating Israel of their sinfulness. It was never intended to bring them into righteosness. It was always intended to hold them in check and to cause them to be driven to God and His promises. The law was always impossible to keep.

Now the Living Law keeps us, and He is faithful to complete what He begins in us (Phil 1:6). We respond to His sovereign grace by offering our bodies as living sacrifices to Him for His purposes (Romans 12:1).

Colleen

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Linda, one comment re: Isaiah 66: it clearly says that people will gather to worhsip not only from Sabbath to Sabbath but from New Moon to New Moon. These prophecies must be read in light of Jesus’ fulfillment of the ceremonial days of Israel.

Revelation 21 and 22 both state unequivocally that there is no need of the sun or the moon in the New Jesrusalem because the Lamb Himself will be their light. There “is no night there”. Without night, there are no days.

Furthermore, eternity is not undending time. Eternity has no time. There will be no passing days in heaven. There will be no eternal observation of the seventh-day Sabbath or of New Moons.

Those celebrations were always shadows of Christ Himself. When we understand that Jesus Is the reality of those shadows, Isaiah 66 makes sense. We will all gather to worship and praise Jesus Himself endlessly for eternity. In Him those powerful shadows have substance. We will not gather to worship Him for one-seventh of eternity. Our entire eternal future will consist of our worship and honoring of Him.

Colleen

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The sabbaths which were done away with such as mentioned in Col 2 are referring to the cerimonial sabbaths.

Chapter and verse on that, please?

Isaiah 66 says we will keep the Sabbath in heaven.

Since Christ is our Sabbath Rest, it would stand to reason that we will, indeed, keep

and Isaiah 66:23 says (the only time Sabbath is mentioned in Isaiah 66, ESV): From new moon to new moon,and from Sabbath to Sabbath,all flesh shall come to worship before me,

Any rational reading knows that means “from Saturday to Saturday.” If I told you that I was going to fast from Sunday to Sunday, you would understand that I meant every day in between. How can you read that we are going to keep the Sabbath only?

The Fourth Commandment says, “but the seventh day is a sabbath unto Jehovah thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy man-servant, nor thy maid-servant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates”

I’m assuming that you stay home on your Sabbath? You don’t cook, do dishes, go to church, take a walk with your family? And nobody does work for you. ANYBODY.

The Sabbath wasn’t set up for to be a convenient time to go to church. It was a day of rest. Actually, yesterday - I Sabbathed. I skipped church. I slept in. I sat in once place and read on line, read the Bible, plaed a few games. It was good and I felt great.

Is that what you mean? Because I don’t intend to do that every week.

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As far as The Lords Day is concerned lets let the Bible interpret itself. Matther 12:8 says the Son of Man is the Lord also of the Sabbath. If the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath, the Sabbath must the the Lords’s day.

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This passage, Col2:16, 17 is one of the most misunderstood passages in the Bible. One principle of Bible interpretation is that you do not allow what may be somewhat unclear to keep you from doing what you understand. The Bible is plain on the Sabbath.. It was given at creation (Gen2:1-3). Jesus observed it (Luke 4:16). Paul observed it (Acts 13:42-44), and it will be observed in heaven (Isaiah 66:22,23). The Bible mentions two kinds of sabbaths. The seventh- day Sabbath and the yearly sabbaths. The seventh-day Sabbath, instituted at creation and part of the Ten Commandment law, is a weekly reminder of the loving, all-powerful Creator. The yearly Sabath relates specifically to the history of Israel. Col 2: 16,17 specifically states “Let no one judge you regarding sabbath days which are a shadow of things to come.” The seventh-day Sabbath is a menorial of creation not a shadow of something to come. Heb 10:1 connects the law of shadows to the animal sacrifice. Ezekial 45:17 used the exact same expression in the exact same order as Col 2:16,17 and connects it all with the ceremonial systems of feasts and sacrifices (meat offerings, drink offerings, feasts, new moons, and sabbaths to make reconciliation for the house of Israel. Lev 23:3 discusses the Seventh-day Sabbath. Lev 23:5-32 discusses the ceremonial sabaths (passover, verse 5; unleavened bread, verse 6; wave sheaf, verse 10; first fruits, verse 17; trumpets, verse 24; Day of atonement, verses 27-32: tabernacles, verses 34-36) Both the feast of the trumpets and the Day of Atonement there are specifically called sabbaths. These annual sabbaths were intimately connected to events foreshadowing Christ’s death and His Second Coming. They were designed by God to be shadows or pointers to the coming Messiah. Lev 23:37 uses the language of Col 2:16,17 to describe these ceremonial sabbaths. Lev 23:38 distinguishes the ceremonial sabbaths from the seventh-day Sabbaths by using the expression “Beside the sabbaths of the Lord.” Since Christ has come the shadowy sabbaths of the ceremonial law have found their fulfillment in Him. The seventh-day Sabbath continues to lead us back to the Creator God who made us. God’s people will keep it as a distinguishing sign of their relationship to Him (Rev 14:12, Exekial 20:12,20)Linda

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Now accept the one who is weak in faith, but not for the purpose of passing judgment on his opinions. One person has faith that he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats vegetables only. The one who eats is not to regard with contempt the one who does not eat, and the one who does not eat is not to judge the one who eats, for God has accepted him. Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls; and he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand. One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God.” - Romans 14:1-6

Paul appears to speak right on point conerning this issue. Granted, he is also talking about those who are weak in the faith concerning their being convicted not to eat certain foods. His main point in this passage, as you will see if you read on through chapter 14, is we are not to judge another brother or sister who has a conviction concerning food or observance of certain days…and the brother or sister who has that conviction is not to try to impose it on those brothers and sisters who don’t share in that conviction.

The implication also is that those who are convicted not to eat certain things and who regard certain days above others (new moons, festivals, sabbaths) are the ones who are weaker in the faith. Any thoughts?

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Brain, that would be the plain reading, wouldn’t it?

Linda, you misquoted Isaiah again.

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Ellen wrote:

Since Christ is our Sabbath Rest, it would stand to reason that we will, indeed, keep

and Isaiah 66:23 says (the only time Sabbath is mentioned in Isaiah 66, ESV): From new moon to new moon,and from Sabbath to Sabbath,all flesh shall come to worship before me,

Any rational reading knows that means “from Saturday to Saturday.” If I told you that I was going to fast from Sunday to Sunday, you would understand that I meant every day in between. How can you read that we are going to keep the Sabbath only?

Ellen, Conversely, if I told you I was going to celebrate Christmas to Christmas would you think I was going to celebrate Christmas 365 days a year?

Linda

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Dallas Pymm, the early church fathers around the time of John used the term “the Lord’s Day” to refer to Resurrection Day, or Sunday. Since it is known that it was a specific term coined by and used by the Early Church to refer to Sunday, that seems to be the most common interpretation of Rev. 1.

By the way, everyone, the link to sabbathtruth.com posted by Linda, is actually an SDA web site, although they try to hide that fact. It is operated by Amazing Facts, a very cultic ministry run by Doug Batchelor, a Seventh-day Adventist. BEWARE!

They refuse to say they are SDA at that website, and even have a link saying “Where can I find a Sabbath keeping church in North America?” which takes you to an ADVENTIST church locator. Very deceptive. And they try to sell you a book by the SDA false prophetess Ellen G. White. Once again, they call her E.G. White hoping you don’t figure out that it’s Ellen White.

Jeremy

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Jeremy says:

Dallas Pymm, the early church fathers around the time of John used the term “the Lord’s Day” to refer to Resurrection Day, or Sunday. Since it is known that it was a specific term coined by and used by the Early Church to refer to Sunday, that seems to be the most common interpretation of Rev. 1.”

If that were true John would not have used the phrase “first day of the week” in his Gospel which was written approximately the same time. The ony day that John knew as the “Lords day” by the end of the first century when he wrote the book of Revelation is the Sabbath. And we know that this only day which Christ proclaims Himself to “Lord.” Matt 12:8 “For the Son of man is lord of the Sabbath”

Jeremy says:

They refuse to say they are SDA at that website, and even have a link saying “Where can I find a Sabbath keeping church in North America?” which takes you to an ADVENTIST church locator. Very deceptive. ”

If they take you to an Adventist locator that doesn’t sound like they are trying to hide anything. Besides, the website is about the SABBATH not the SDA church. Jeremy, I hate to say it but you sound a little paranoid. Let people make up their own mind.

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Great topic!

If one wants to keep the Sabbath I see no problem with it, just don’t judge others who are not convinced that they should keep it. One thing that isn’t being addressed is the lowering of the Sabbath command. I’ve heard many say that they have kept or still keeping the Sabbath. God gave specific’s of what was not to be done on the Sabbath.

Here’s a list:

Exodus 16:29, And the Lord said to Moses: “Remain every man in his place; let no man go out of his place on the seventh day. Stay home.

Exodus 16:23, “This is what the Lord meant: tomorrow is the Sabbath observance, a holy Sabbath to the Lord. Bake what you will bake and boil what you will boil, and all that is left over put aside to be kept until morning. No cooking.

Exodus 20:10 “On the seventh day is the Sabbath to the Lord your God; and in it you shall do not any work; you or your son or your daughter, or your male servant, your female servant, your cattle or your sojourner who stays with you.” No work.

Exodus 35:1-3 “These things are the things the Lord has commanded you to do: You shall not kindle a fire in any of your dwellings on the Sabbath day.”

It also says in Jeremiah 17:27: “If you do not listen to Me to keep the Sabbath day holy by not carrying a load and coming in through the gates of Jerusalem on the Sabbath day.” No carrying a load anywhere.

Nehemiah 10 says: “As for the people of the land who bring wares or any grain on the Sabbath day to sell, we will not buy from them on the Sabbath or a holy day.” No buying . No selling.

Isaiah 58:13-14 “If because of the Sabbath you turn your foot from doing your own pleasure on My holy day, and call the Sabbath a delight, the holy of the Lord honorable, and shall honor it, desisting from your own ways, from seeking your own pleasure and speaking your own word.” Your agenda is out.

So you can’t go anywhere; you can’t cook anything; you can’t do any work; you can’t build a fire; you can’t carry a load; you can’t buy anything; you can’t sell anything; you can’t eat out, because you can’t go anywhere; you can’t even have anything delivered because you can’t buy it, unless it’s free; you can’t do anything YOU want; you can’t make any plans. This was serious business folks and to lower it by any means would be offensive to God.

If the Sabbath command is in effect, no one can redefine how it is to be kept, no more than redifining the other 9 to whatever one decides how they should be kept.

Furthermore, according to Leviticus 24:32, the Sabbath was to be from evening until evening, sundown Friday to sundown Saturday.

Lastly, if you violated the Sabbath, several scriptures said you were to be put to death. Others said you were to be cut off from Israel.

On the Sabbath they didn’t go to the place of worship.

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Linda: I’m not nearly as smart as everyone here, but I’m smart enough to sense that something is just not right with your answer to Jeremy. Forgive me if I’m wrong about that, but perhaps it would be helpful if you could let us know your theological allegiance in this discussion, whether a non-alligned Sabbatarian or an SDA apologist. Thanks.

Colleen: Your comments have been very instructive and helpful, and make a great deal of sense to me. Are there any specific books or resources that have influenced your thinking that you could share. Thanks.

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Savon,Those are good points. Those who would impose Sabbatarianism on us whether Sat. or Sunday, just won’t admit that the New Testament in all the epistles is completely silent as to how to instruct the Gentile world how to keep Sabbath under the New Covenant. Since the fourth commandment is the longest and most prominent commandment in the decalogue, and Ezekiel even says the Sabbath was the sign of the covenant, then, why on something the Old Testament continually kept reminding us of with all of those passages listed above, then is it not strange that no command to keep any day of the week is given. The only obvious explanation for this is that the Old Covenant sign is the Sabbath—“Remember the Sabbath day…” whereas the next time God said remember was in the words of our Lord “Do this in Remembrance of Me” What could be clearer than that? The shadows are all gone. We have our eternal Sabbath rest in Christ.

Linda,Let me ask you a question. If we will be keeping the Sabbath in the New Earth and as Isaiah 66 says also keeping New Moons, and since Revelation clearly states that there will be no night there, then how can you know when the Sabbath starts if there is never any night. The moon cannot shine in the light of the Son.

Also, the SDA church has historically said that all those who will continue to worship on Sunday are worshipping Satan and the beast. Your church says the keeping of Saturday Sabbath will be the final test to separate the true church from the false church. Your church also calls the Sabbath the Seal of God, when the New Testament is clear that the Holy Spirit is the seal of God.

Stan Ermshar

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Passer-by, “Sabbath in Crisis”, now updated and reprinted as “Sabbath in Christ” by Dale Ratzlaff has been the most helpful book for me besides just plain Bible study.

Having been a Seventh-day Adventist, I had certain (mis)understandings of what Scripture said and meant, so I had to specifically study certain questions that the average Reformed believer probably wouldn’t have. Linda’s Adventist point of view reveals many of the unique Adventist explanations for keeping the seventh day.

Ratzlaff’s book is available online at www.LIfeAssuranceMinistries.org. It is a thorough study of the Old and the New Covenants.

The Bible itself is so clear about the New Covenant when one approaches it with prayer for God to reveal truth without our invisible blinders on.

Colleen

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Ellen, Conversely, if I told you I was going to celebrate Christmas to Christmas would you think I was going to celebrate Christmas 365 days a year?

No. But that (again) you’re misquoting the verse. If you quote it the way the Bible says it, you would be saying:

I’m going to celebrate from Christmas to Christmas. If you used that very specific language, then I’d say yes, you’d be celebrating all year.

The ony day that John knew as the “Lords day” by the end of the first century when he wrote the book of Revelation is the Sabbath.

chapter and verse on that, please? I choose to believe that those who are inspired by God would have the language to say “Sabbath” if that is what they meant.

I asked you before, Linda, how do you keep the Sabbath? The Biblical way or man’s way?

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Savon says

If one wants to keep the Sabbath I see no problem with it, just don’t judge others who are not convinced that they should keep it’

If the ten commandments is a summary of the moral law then our sabbath breaking along with our stealing is sin - Christ suffered for it, we should repent of it and seek for grace to keep it.

Given that in Genesis 1 & 2 God kept the Sabbath, and that we are then told man was created in God’s image, we ought to have been surprised if God had given only nine commandments at Sinai and not ten. The miraculous events surrounding the giving of the ten words, including the writing of them by the finger of God, marks them out from the rest of the Torah. Christ declares himself ‘Lord of the Sabbath’ (what a title if the Sabbath no longer exists!)

The issue should not be ‘if one wants to keep the Sabbath’ rather ‘how we keep the sabbath’. Here we should be cautious to judge others. As with the other commands there were specific Jewish aspects to them and we need to work through all the scriptures in context to determine what these were. The first step is to love God’s law (Psalm 119) - which includes the sabbath.

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Linda, I wouldn’t say I’m paranoid. I simply have been a part of Adventism and I know that that website is designed to get people into “The Truth” (SDA church, aka “The Only One True Remnant Church”). They also have a link to a website about the heretical SDA view of death (teaching that we cease to exist when we die—did Jesus cease to exist when He died?), a link to an SDA vegan health program, and they also link to the Amazing Facts ministry, which has as its sole purpose to “evangelize” people into SDAism and teach all of the SDA doctrines, etc. And they also sell SDA resources in their “store,” including a book by their false prophet, and material which teach their non-sense end-time events about the Mark of the Beast being worshipping God on Sunday and the Sabbath being the Seal of God (the Seal is the Holy Spirit—Eph 1, 4:30, etc.), there being a Universal Sunday Law and seventh-day Sabbath-keepers being sentenced to death by the Christians, etc.!!!

If the purpose was really to promote the Sabbath they would link to a resource listing many different Sabbath-keeping churches, not just SDA churches.

They also display an advertisment for an upcoming SDA “revival” meeting.

No, I am not paranoid at all. It is the same old demonic deception the cult was founded on hard at work still.

Jeremy

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Alan says,

Given that in Genesis 1 & 2 God kept the Sabbath:

Mark 2:27 - “The Sabbath was made for man”

We are then told man was created in God’s image and since God kept the Sabbath we should to:

Genesis 1:27,28 - God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them; God blessed them; AND GOD SAID TO THEM, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

The writing of them(the decalogue)by the finger of God, marks them out from the rest of the Torah.

Scripture reference???

Christ declares himself ‘Lord of the Sabbath’ (what a title if the Sabbath no longer exists!)

Context is King, Christ was not trying to disprove that the Sabbath existed at that time, rather He was establishing His Deity, He is not subject to the Sabbath, He is Lord OVER it, just as He is GREATER than the temple. The Sabbath law, as all the rest, were put into Christ’s hand, under His Lordship, to be altered, enforced, or dispensed with, as He saw fit. This is why He could heal or allow His disciples to pluck corn, take a walk on the Sabbath. All the things He did were prohibited.

The issue should not be ‘if one wants to keep the Sabbath’ rather ‘how we keep the sabbath’.

I agree 100%, so the question remains, who determines how the Sabbath is kept? God or man?

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SavonCouple of replies to your last post

God rested on the 7th day (Gen2.3), but by nature the moral law is for man’s benefit. There is no conflict between saying God kept it for our example and it is for our blessing.

God distinguishs the moral elements of the law given at sinai by writing them with his finger (Ex 31.18 and Deut 9.10). In addition he spoke the ten commands (Ex 20.1) whereas the rest of the torah was mediated through Moses.

You say that Christ is Lord of the sabbath and so has the right to dispense with it. True if it were not moral, but in addition he never did.

God determines how it is to be kept. The pattern is set in Gen 2.3. Hope this is of use. God bless, Alan.

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Colossians 2:16-17—the yearly, monthly, and weekly Sabbaths were shadows of the reality which is found in Christ.

Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath because the Sabbath was a shadow of Him. If I’m stumbling through a desert and find myself in the shade of a tall building, I experience immediate relief from the killing heat. I can sit in that shade and experience rest and relief from the certain death I was facing.

Yet if I sit long enough, I realize I’m still too hot to be safe. Even thought the shadow is degrees cooler than the sun, I’m still dehydrating, and I still have no access to bread and water.

If I get up and enter that building in whose shade I’m sitting, however, I’ll find air conditioning, food, water, and a place to rest and recover from my death march across the desesrt.

The Sabbath was that kind of shadow of the perfect and complete rest we find in Jesus. Although we can leave the shadow and embrace Jesus, becoming one with Him and experiencing the water and bread of life, many of us have spent years trying to both be in Him and in the shadow.

We can’t do both. As long as we’re in the shadow, we’re trying to find that promised blessing without giving up everything—including the shadow—in favor of the Real Thing. When we’re in Christ and trusting Him completely to be all we need for moralilty and holiness and salvation, the shadow is obsolete.

Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath because He Is the Sabbath Rest toward which the Sabbath pointed. Jesus embodies Sabbath rest.

When God finished creating the world and rested on the seventh day, that day had no evening and morning symbolizing a beginning and end as did the other days. His rest was without boundaries, and Adam and Eve were ushered into it through no effort of their own. When God finished creating, He might well have said, “It Is Finished.”

When Jesus died, He opened for us the possibility of being again in the unbroken rest of the finished work of God. “It Is Finished,” He said of His atoning sacrifice.

The Israelite’s Sabbath pointed back to God’s finished work and rest at the end of creation, and it pointed forward to Christ’s finished work and the restoration of our entering His rest as did Adam and Eve before they sinned.

No, the significance of Sabbath is not a day—a created thing. The reailty of Sabbath has always been God’s finished work—and in Jesus we can enter that rest of God.

Colleen

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I’m 75 comments late to this discussion, have only read the first 20 or so, and don’t have the time to read the rest (no disrespect intended to #21-#75 :))

Yes, Col 2 and Rom 14 give us freedom from dogmatically adhering to the 4th commandment, but what does Eph 5:1 say? “Be imitators of God therefore,” and God himself set the example. He didn’t NEED to rest on the 7th day, He CHOSE to show us what was best.

I fully believe we’re free to enjoy the Sabbath and even work when needed, but if we truly want to imitate God, we should rest on the Sabbath. Meditate on God (or in our modern vernacular, think about God a lot) Take a nap:). John Ortberg wrote in “The Life You’ve Always Wanted” that his mentor told him “You must ruthlessly eliminate hurry from your life.” Resting on the Sabbath is an excellent place to start.

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It strikes me that, as sincere and interesting as the comments have been, we lack a basic starting point as evangelicals in terms of understanding the law of God. This is where the historically Reformed insights are particularly helpful. I think that an appreciation of these insights, especially for those evangelicals who are not from Confessional churches, will help remove some of the confusion.

The Reformed tradition has emphasized that there are three uses of the law. First, there is the redemptive use: The law tells me I am a sinner and that I need a Savior. So, I flee to Christ for salvation. Second, it is a gude for Christian living. That is, now that I am in Christ, the law guides my grateful and joyful living in Christ. Third, the law is a help to civil society in general. That is, if all people (even unbelievers) lived according to God’s law, the world would generally be a better, more orderly and decent place (but no one would be saved by obeying the law).

Notice that, in none of these cases, is the law the basis by which we are saved (unless you consider Christ’s perfect obedience to the law as qualifying him to be our Savior). The law leads us to Christ, guides our living, and helps to order society. So, the 4th commandment leads me to Christ (because I do not rest in God and worship him as I should), it guides my Christian living (it helps me to order my week and my work and my worship and devotion), and it would benefit all people to consider God’s sovereign right to order our lives and our time that we might rest in him and worship him alone.

One of the comments made most often here is that the New Testament (particularly the Sermon on the Mount) intensifies the Old Testament moral requirements, and that is right. In fact, we can say that Christ broadens, deepens, and positivizes (gives the positive side of the negative command) the Ten Commandments. So, as the Heidelberg Catechism and the Westminster Catechisms teach us: Thou shalt not murder actually means not only that we refrain from murdering people, but that we devote all of our power and energy to the well-being of other people. We do not injure them with our hands or our words. We protect them and their property. In short, we love them. Not stealing means that we work with our hands until we have enough to share with those in need (Eph. 4:28). Not committing adultery means that I love my wive as Christ loved the church and that I am satisfied with my wife and don’t lust after another woman. These are not new commands; this is what the commandment MEANS.

But, even though the commands have been intensified, we don’t disregard nor do we negate the ORIGINAL command. I can’t say, well: I didn’t lust after her, but I slept with her, so I kept the NT law, but not the OT law. I obeyed in the heart (NT) because the OT law doesn’t apply anymore. That would be absurd. The commandment is named in the OT, stated negatively (in most cases) and then elaborated upon and intensified throughout the rest of the Bible (not just the NT, by the way, but the OT does this as well).

So, coming to the Sabbath. There is the original command, and then the rest of the Bible. The original command requires 1 day in seven rest and 1 day in seven worship and devotion. We know this because Israel was to observe the Sabbath so that they would KNOW that it is the Lord that makes them holy-Exodus 31:13. That is, it is the Lord that makes us holy, not obedience to the law. In their rest, they were to recognize this and trust in the Lord. So, Sabbath observance has an intensely spiritual significance, that is largely missed. I rest from my (physical) work, so that I will know not to trust in my own (spiritual) work, but rather in the work of Christ. Yes, Christ IS our Sabbath rest, but that does not entail my giving up the sign. Christ has shed his blood and poured out his spirit, yet we still observe the signs in Baptism and the Lord’s Supper.

And so, because the original command requires one day in seven observance (now the Lord’s Day, after the apostolic pattern and the Resurrection of Christ), then that is where we START. We don’t throw it out (like adultery and stealing) and say, in effect, “All of life is worship, 24-7.” It’s true that all of life is to be a sacrifice of our whole selves, and an act of worship (Romans 12:1-2), but that is broadening of the command. We don’t throw out the original commandment, just because it has been broadened. Or else we would throw out the prohibitions against stealing and adultery and murder, as long as our “hearts were right.” Impossible.

I realize that I have not addressed those NT passages which are said to call Sabbath observance into question. Those passages need to be dealt with. My hope has been to clear up the misunderstanding regarding the nature of the law, and the way in which it moves from OT to NT, and from the original commandment to the general broadening throughout the Bible.

A final thought: to charge those who observe the Christian Sabbath with legalism is odd indeed. We do not believe we are saved by it, but by Christ alone. We do not believe it makes us more spiritual than others, but that is a gracious gift from God to us to be enjoyed. Certainly we are not legalists to forbid stealing or adultery. How then can we be legalists to spend an entire day in devotion to Christ, and encourage all Christians to do the same?

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Colleen you are spot on. Christ in all of Scripture. Everything points to Christ. It’s all about Christ. We should be afriad to take our eyes off of Christ, because when we take our eyes off of Christ, we will look to anything to try and please God. God is pleased ONLY by what Christ has done. God requires absolute perfection to His commands, thus good intentions, desires, efforts to keep His commands doesn’t meet up. If anyone fails to keep just one, they have failed to keep them all.

This is why CHRIST has come, all down through the O.T. and fully obeyed all the commands of the Father and satisfied His righteous wrath towards those of us who has not and does not perfectly and continually keep His commands.

This is why we must continually look to Christ just as in the O.T. the type and shadows pointed forward to Christ, thus we look back to the Cross to Christ.

Whenever we move away from the Cross we will always, always, always look to way’s that we can please God, whether it be through Sabbath keeping or any other good work that we claim to be doing other than trusting in Christ.

Nothing pleases the Father more than belief in the death, burial, resurrection of Christ, His Son.

This is why Paul said to the Corinthians, when I was among you I purposed to know nothing except Christ and Him Crucified for sinners. It’s all about Christ.

The two signs of the Old Covenant were circumcision and Sabbath. The two New Covenant signs are baptism and Lord’s Supper. Jesus is at the Center!

If you’re looking to the Law for any other reason than to see God’s requirements of you, thus leading you to repentance and running to Christ, you have missed the purpose of the Law. God’s demands are absolute perfection. Anything less deserves temporal and eternal punishment.

Lastly, if I may, in all humility, point out that the hermenuetic(biblical interpretation) being used in some of the post is bad, therefore, may I make a recommendation: Never read a Bible verse again!!

The key to the meaning of any verse comes from the paragraph, not just from the individual words or sentence. The numbers in front of the sentences give the illusion that the verse(s) stand alone in their meaning. They were not in the originals. Numbers were added hundreds of years later. Chapter and verse breaks sometimes pop up in unfortunate places, separating relevant material that should be grouped together.

Begin with the broad context of the book. What type of literature is it history, poetry, symbolic, etc.? What is the passage about in general? What idea is being developed? Try to identify major units of thought.

The reason this is so important is because words have different meanings in different contexts. When one consider’s a verse in isolation, one meaning may occur. But how will one know it’s the right one? Dictionaries only complicate the issue, giving more choices, not fewer, therefore, any help must come from somewhere else close by: the surrounding paragraph.

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Grubb,

If we are to imitate God’s example from Genesis physically, then we could NEVER work. God did not “keep the Sabbath.” According to Strong’s concordance, the word Sabbath means an “intermission.” The Hebrew word for “rest” used in Gen. 2 means to “cease.” It says that He ceased creating the world on the seventh day. So, did God start creating again on the first day of week 2? No—He had ceased creating. It was an eternal rest. It was not 6 days working, 1 day of rest, and then 6 days of working again! It was a completed work—and He ceased working. Adam and Eve were able to enter into God’s rest and enjoy it also. Not just once a week, but perpetually, continually—until the Fall. Then the Curse introduced work and the Rest was broken for mankind. But in Ex. 16 God gave Israel a rest day every seventh day of the week, as a reminder of the rest that was lost in Eden and as a shadow of Jesus who would restore God’s Rest to us by His redemption of us and letting us find rest in Him. Now that the Substance of the shadow as come (Col 2), the Sabbath that remains for the people of God is TODAY and every day in Jesus (Heb 4).

Passer-by and others,

In addition to the book “Sabbath in Christ” by Dale Ratzlaff, I recommend the following resources:

http://www.ariel.org/mshabbat.html (This is very good, including for the Creation question)

http://www.sdaoutreach.org/audio.cfm

http://www.sdaoutreach.org/law-study.cfm

http://web.archive.org/web/20041021012419/http://www.ariel.org/ff00006c.html (“The Law of Moses and the Law of Christ”)

Jeremy

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Milan, I understand your point of view. I worship with many Christ-followers who see the law as you described it: as a guide to moral living.

I do not contend that Christians will not live according to the principles in the Decalogue. Of course they will!

My concern is that saying the Law given at Sinai is part of the New Testament rule of faith and practice necessarily means that we miss the most powerful of all the shadows: the real essence of the Sabbath.

Hebrews, Galatians, Romans—they all explain how the law has been superceded in every way by Christ. We can let go of the Decalogue without fear because when we are born of the Spirit, we will live by the Law of God—because He Is LIving In Us.

I was struck by your term, “the Christian Sabbath”. That phrase has no Biblical precedent. There is clearly an Israelite Sabbath, but nowhere does the NT teach Sabbath-keeping to the new Christian churches. Acts 15, in fact, explains that the church in Jerusalem, in partnership with the Holy Spirit, saw fit to give the Gentiles only four rules for living (beyond accepting Jesus, of course). Those four were eat no blood, eat no strangled animals, eat no meat offered to idols (although Paul in 1 Cor says the idols mean nothing to him, and he could eat that “consecrated” meat without sin), and no sexual immorality.

This conversation was in the context of whether or not to require circumcision—the ritual that would then require that they keep the whole law. The decision was that no Jewish laws would be required of the Gentiles.

Nowhere is there any command or explanation for sacred days or “days off” or worship days. While there are exhortations to meet together, those exhortations do not remotely suggest which day those meetings would happen on. Tradition tells us many early believers met together on Sunday in honor of the resurrection. Others (especially those of Jewish extraction) continued to meet on Saturday. It was optional and discretionary.

To use the law as a guide for Christian living, however, is to impose onto Christians something that no apostle and not even Jesus ever taught as part of living in the New covenantSabbath-keeping.

Hebrews, again, is meticulously clear that everything—even the seventh-day Sabbath—was fulfilled in Christ and transformed into continuous rest in Him.

If, however, we are going to use the Law as a guide to Christian living, then we must keep the seventh day. That requirement was profoundly important. No substitute would do. There was NO command or apostolic teaching to change the day of worship.

In the absence of a change, we have to understand that the Jewish Sabbath never became the “Christian Sabbath”. Now we have Jesus Himself.

Days are optional—days are created things. Jesus, however, and our command to live by the Spirit are not optional.

Colleen

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Question:

Since many of the early Christians were slaves, how could a “Christian Sabbath” be taught, much less enforced? The slaves would not have been able to take a specified “day off”.

For the apostles to teach a “Christian Sabbath” on one hand, and for Paul to teach that a slave should do all things as unto the Lord and not to seek to be free - it would seem that he would have had to give some explanation for how these two contradictory teachings could mesh.

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For other great references on New Covenant theology, I would recommend the following;

For a clear concise definition of New Covenant theology ,http://www.ptitx.org/News/whatis-NTC.htm

For a more in depth presentation of New Covenant theology, John Reisinger is really the pioneer,http://www.soundofgrace.com/jgr/index047.htm

Stan Ermshar

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Thank You Tim Challies, you have raised some very good points here on a obviously sensitive topic.

I am unsure why so many are so hot to trot to do away with the 10 commandments, and in particular the seventh day as Sabbath.

It will do little good to argue with Stan, Jeremy or Colleen or whomever. They have clearly drawn their line in the sand. Jeremy, I am a SDA and I love you brother, I pray you get over your anger. “Red and Yellow, Black and White, all are precious in His sight”

I love the Sabbath. I look forward to it each week. I enjoy meeting with my Maker each week, spending time with friends, getting pumped with a great spiritual message, spending time with my family, having a snooze from time to time, putting business to rest for 24 hours, listening to some of my favorite Christian music, playing my horn, not worrying about getting the bathroom painted or the garage cleaned, what a treat.

I don’t know what I would do without this day.

I am not comfortable basing my theology on things that weren’t specifically said or weren’t specifically mentioned in the Old or New Testament. That is like trying to outsmart God. “This wasn’t said, so God must have meant this, or He couldn’t have meant this”, etc.

Genesis 2:2-3 says that when God finished creating the world He rested on the Seventh Day, He blessed this day and he hallowed it (made it holy). He makes this pretty clear.

Where does it say that God tranfers His blessing to another day? Where does it say God hallowed Sunday, or Friday, or any other day? If it is so clear here, why would He leave it so nebulous later on?

God created man in His image. As the Master Designer God knew (and knows) what was/is best for mankind. Enoch walked and talked with God. Did Enoch observe his Sabbath on Saturday or Sunday? The Bible doesn’t say specifically, so do we assume Sunday because it doesn’t say? I tend to think it was important to God and He and Enoch had some awesome Sabbath walks. Can you imagine going for a hike with God and talking about life? Getting some advice on dealing with the teens, or Mrs. Enoch? Whoa! God must have really loved Enoch, just like He really loves every person since Adam and Eve.

At Mt. Sinai God reminds His “Chosen People” to “remember” the Sabbath in the Decalogue. They had just come out of a heathen, idolatrous nation after 2-300 years where there were human sacrifices and all kinds of sexual imorality and on and on. God knew (and knows) what was best for his “chosen people” , His created beings. They needed reminding of the laws of life that had been a big part of their life before Jacob and the boys moved to Egypt.

Jesus died on Friday, He rested in the tomb on Saturday and he was raised on Sunday.

Perhaps somewhere around here in the Gospels, God should have said, or inspired His writers to say (just to keep things clear), “and God, the creator of the world saw that His Holy day of rest was askew, and needed to be changed, therefore He rested again, on Sunday, the , with the sun god RA, and He blessed it and hallowed it”. OR some variation thereof.

This could go on so I will wrap up.

When the pharisees were trying to trap Jesus and they asked Him what was the greatest law, why didn’t Jesus just tell them then and there that He had done away with the law and not to sweat it any longer?

Hebrews 13:8 says Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, and today and forever. God must be the same too.

If Jesus says, if you love Me keep my commandments.I want to keep them because I love Jesus.

If God has blessed Saturday as Sabbath, I want that Sabbath blessing, and I will endeavor to honor Him by making it special.

1John 5:3 says “This is love for God: to obey His commands. And His commands are not burdensome.

My Sabbath is not burdensome, I love it.

I don’t really care if former SDA Apologist Robert Brimsmead scoffs at me or my beliefs (thanks for that nugget Stan - I am sure Bob must have been a great guy and God loved him too).

I answer to my creator God, and it is He who blots out my sins and He who loves me and He who saves me and I don’t need an apologist for that.

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This message is for Colleen, who has posted several times in this discussion…

I just wanted to express my appreciation for all that you have said here. It has been a real blessing, and very encouraging. I was curious, do you have your own blog that I could check out?

Thanks in advance.

gh

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The father of Reformed Theology- John Calvin’s view on the Sabbath commandment.

There were three reasons for giving this commandment: First, with the seventh day of rest the Lord wished to give to the people of Israel an image of spiritual rest, whereby believers must cease from their own works in order to let the Lord work in them. Secondly, he wished that there be an established day in which believers might assemble in order to hear his Law and worship him.Thirdly, he willed that one day of rest be granted to servants and to those who live under the power of others so that they might have a relaxation from their labor. The latter, however, is rather an inferred than a principal reason.

As to the first reason, there is no doubt that it ceased in Christ; because he is the truth by the presence of which all images vanish. He is the reality at whose advent all shadows are abandoned.Hence St. Paul (Col. 2:17) that the sabbath has been a shadow of a reality yet to be. And he declares elsewhere its truth when in the letter to the Romans, ch. 6:8, he teaches us that we are buried with Christ in order that by his death we may die to the corruption of our flesh. And this is not done in one day, but during all the course of our life, until altogether dead in our own selves, we may be filled with the life of God. Hence, superstitious observance of days must remain far from Christians.

The two last reasons, however, must not be numbered among the shadows of old. Rather, they are equally valid for all ages. Hence, though the sabbath is abrogated, it so happens among us that we still convene on certain days in order to hear the word of God, to break the [mystic] bread of the Supper, and to offer public prayers; and, moreover, in order that some relaxation from their toil be given to servants and workingmen. As our human weakness does not allow such assemblies to meet every day, the day observed by the Jews has been taken away (as a good device for eliminatingsuperstition) and another day has been destined to this use. This was necessary for securing and maintaining order and peace in the Church.

As the truth therefore was given to the Jews under a figure, so to us on the contrary truth is shown without shadows in order, first of all, that we meditate all our life on a perpetual sabbath from our works so that the Lord may operate in us by his spirit; secondly, in order that we observe the legitimate order of the Church for listening to the word of God, for admin-istering the sacraments, and for public prayers; thirdly, in order that we do not oppress inhumanly with work those who are subject to us. [From Instruction in Faith, Calvin’s own 1537 digest of the Institutes, sec. 8, “The Law of the Lord”].

The leader who sparked the Protestant Reformational Theology - Martin Luther’s view on the Sabbath command.

The word holy day (Feiertag) is rendered from the Hebrew word sabbath which properly signifies to rest, that is, to abstain from labor. Hence we are accustomed to say, Feierabend machen [that is, to cease working], or heiligen Abend geben [sanctify the Sabbath]. Now, in the Old Testament, God separated the seventh day, and appointed it for rest, and commanded that it should be regarded as holy above all others. As regards this external observance, this commandment was given to the Jews alone, that they should abstain from toilsome work, and rest, so that both man and beast might recuperate, and not be weakened by unremitting labor. Although they afterwards restricted this too closely, and grossly abused it, so that they traduced and could not endure in Christ those works which they themselves were accustomed to do on that day, as we read in the Gospel; just as though the commandment were fulfilled by doing no external, [manual] work whatever, which, however, was not the meaning, but, as we shall hear, that they sanctify the holy day or day of rest.

This commandment, therefore, according to its gross sense, does not concern us Christians; for it is altogether an external matter, like other ordinances of the Old Testament, which were attached to particular customs, persons, times, and places, and now have been made free through Christ.

But to grasp a Christian meaning for the simple as to what God requires in this commandment, note that we keep holy days not for the sake of intelligent and learned Christians (for they have no need of it [holy days]), but first of all for bodily causes and necessities, which nature teaches and requires; for the common people, man-servants and maid-servants, who have been attending to their work and trade the whole week, that for a day they may retire in order to rest and be refreshed.

Secondly, and most especially, that on such day of rest (since we can get no other opportunity) freedom and time be taken to attend divine service, so that we come together to hear and treat of God’s Word, and then to praise God, to sing and pray.

However, this, I say, is not so restricted to any time, as with the Jews, that it must be just on this or that day; for in itself no one day is better than another; but this should indeed be done daily; however, since the masses cannot give such attendance, there must be at least one day in the week set apart. But since from of old Sunday [the Lord’s Day] has been appointed for this purpose, we also should continue the same, in order that everything be done in harmonious order, and no one create disorder by unnecessary innovation.

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Has anyone ever thought about the fact that God did NOT stop working on the seventh day? Yes, He DID rest from His work of creating…but He did NOT stop working. Check out what Jesus says:

The man went away, and told the Jews that it was Jesus who had made him well. For this reason the Jews were persecuting Jesus, because He was doing these things on the Sabbath.

But He answered them, “MY FATHER IS WORKING UNTIL NOW, AND I MYSELF AM WORKING.” For this reason therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God.” - John 5:15-18

Just thought that was interesting.

Also, those of you who hold that the Sabbath (Saturday or Sunday, depending on your view) is still to be observed literally as in the OT…what gives you the liberty to pick and choose which of the OT laws you will still observe and which ones you will not?

Do you still observe the passover as commanded by God?”And you shall observe this event as an ordinance for you and your children FOREVER.” - Ex. 12:24

Do you still circumcise as commanded by God?”thus shall My covenant be in your flesh for an EVERLASTING COVENANT.” - Ex. 17:13

I still haven’t read much here on Romans 14 where Paul appears to address this topic right on point.

Just as the temple is fulfilled in Christ…so also is the Sabbath fulfilled in Christ.

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Interesting discussion.

Man was not made for the Sabbath, but the Sabbath for man”

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My apologies, I don’t have the time to read all the discussions that have taken place to this point, I read until about comment 50, then ran out of time ;-).

Comment 49 argued strangely that Christians aren’t even obligated to come together and worship on the Lord’s Day.

I have not seen Hebrews 10:25 referred to, especially in light of its context of Christian worship in light of Christ’s perfect sacrifice for sin in fulfillment of the shadowy Mosaic law. Corporate worship on the Lord’s Day is not optional for the confessing believer.

Whether or not you refer to Sunday as the Christian Sabbath, believers are still to come together to partake of the means of grace.

Those in the Reformed tradition who refer to Sunday as the “Christian Sabbath” are not saying that we go back to the Mosaic administration of it. Rather that it IS fulfilled in Christ as is the whole law, then we receive it as a guide for thankful living (otherwise known as the third use of the law).

The Westminster Confession of Faith does a good Job dealing with the worship, and the topic of the Sabbath, and the fulfillment that has occured in Christ. Chapter 21 sections 7-8 in particular deal with this topic:

7. As it is the law of nature, that, in general, a due proportion of time be set apart for the worship of God; so, in his Word, by a positive, moral, and perpetual commandment binding all men in all ages, he hath particularly appointed one day in seven, for a Sabbath, to be kept holy unto him: which, from the beginning of the world to the resurrection of Christ, was the last day of the week; and, from the resurrection of Christ, was changed into the first day of the week, which, in Scripture, is called the Lord’s day, and is to be continued to the end of the world, as the Christian Sabbath.

8. This Sabbath is then kept holy unto the Lord, when men, after a due preparing of their hearts, and ordering of their common affairs beforehand, do not only observe an holy rest, all the day, from their own works, words, and thoughts about their worldly employments and recreations, but also are taken up, the whole time, in the public and private exercises of his worship, and in the duties of necessity and mercy.

To view their reasoning from Scripture, reference the document with the Scriptural proofs footnoted: http://opc.org/documents/CFLayout.pdf

Legalism has no place in Christianity, but neither does antinomianism. Both extremes err.

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Grant, thanks for your concern, but I don’t have bitterness and am thankful for the wonderful blessings of God in my life, especially the blessing of knowing that I am saved forever and have eternal life, because of Jesus’ righteousness and His death and resurrection, and His sovereign regeneration of my spirit by the Holy Spirit. The anger I that DO have I pray I never get over, for it is a righteous anger against the demonic deception that has been perpetrated in SDAism since the cult was founded.

When it says in Gen 2 that God hallowed the seventh day, it is talking about how God set that day apart for Israel in Exodus 16. This is called an anachronism, meaning that Moses is writing about an event which happened later, after the current story. Moses wrote this way on many occasions. A good example is the following:

As the LORD commanded Moses, so Aaron placed it before the Testimony, to be kept.” (Ex. 16:34 NASB.)

The Testimony (stone tablets) had not been given yet in Ex. 16—so this is describing an event which happened at a later time. The same is true with Gen. 2 and God sanctifying the Sabbath. This is made clear by the rest of Scripture which tells us when God gave the Sabbath to people, and even Gen 2. itself makes it sound like God sanctified the day sometime after the first seventh day, *because* He ceased creating on that day. So let’s look at what the rest of the Bible says about…

WHEN did God give the Sabbath to people? And to WHOM did He give it?

Now on the sixth day they gathered twice as much bread, two omers for each one When all the leaders of the congregation came and told Moses, 23then he said to them, “This is what the LORD meant: Tomorrow is a sabbath observance, a holy sabbath to the LORD Bake what you will bake and boil what you will boil, and all that is left over put aside to be kept until morning.” 24So they put it aside until morning, as Moses had ordered, and it did not become foul nor was there any worm in it. 25Moses said, “Eat it today, for today is a sabbath to the LORD; today you will not find it in the field. 26”Six days you shall gather it, but on the seventh day, the sabbath, there will be none.” 27It came about on the seventh day that some of the people went out to gather, but they found none. 28Then the LORD said to Moses, “How long do you refuse to keep My commandments and My instructions? 29”See, the LORD has given you the sabbath; therefore He gives you bread for two days on the sixth day. Remain every man in his place; let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.” 30So the people rested on the seventh day.” (Ex. 16:22-30 NASB.)

This is after Israel crossed the Red Sea and came into the wilderness, and God says that He had just “given” them the Sabbath day. And it was for Israel only.

You shall remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the LORD your God brought you out of there by a mighty hand and by an outstretched arm; therefore the LORD your God commanded you to observe the sabbath day.” (Deut. 5:15 NASB)

God commanded the Sabbath day as a remembrance that they had been delivered from Egypt—again, this was after the exodus and it was only for Israel.

You divided the sea before them,So they passed through the midst of the sea on dry ground; […]So You made known to them Your holy sabbath,And laid down for them commandments, statutes and law,Through Your servant Moses.” (Neh. 9:11a, 14 NASB.)

Once again we see that God made known the Sabbath after the crossing of the Red Sea into the wilderness, and that it was for Israel.

So I took them out of the land of Egypt and brought them into the wilderness. 11”I gave them My statutes and informed them of My ordinances, by which, if a man observes them, he will live. 12”Also I gave them My sabbaths to be a sign between Me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD who sanctifies them.” (Ezekiel 20:10-12 NASB.)

Once again, God says He gave them the Sabbath after they came into the wilderness. And it was for Israel only—a sign between God and Israel, so that Israel would know that God sanctifies them (“sets them apart” from the Gentiles.)

The LORD spoke to Moses, saying, 13”But as for you, speak to the sons of Israel, saying, ‘You shall surely observe My sabbaths; for this is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I am the LORD who sanctifies you. 14’Therefore you are to observe the sabbath, for it is holy to you. Everyone who profanes it shall surely be put to death; for whoever does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from among his people. 15’For six days work may be done, but on the seventh day there is a sabbath of complete rest, holy to the LORD; whoever does any work on the sabbath day shall surely be put to death. 16’So the sons of Israel shall observe the sabbath, to celebrate the sabbath throughout their generations as a perpetual covenant.’ 17”It is a sign between Me and the sons of Israel forever; for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, but on the seventh day He ceased from labor, and was refreshed.” (Ex. 31:12-17 NASB.)

Notice that it makes it so clear that the Sabbath is a sign between God and Israel. That means that Gentiles were not allowed to keep it or else it could not have been a special sign between God and Israel to set apart Israel from the Gentiles! In fact, some Rabbis taught that Gentiles who kept the Sabbath (without becoming circumcised and becoming Jews first), should be stoned to death.

Notice also that the Sabbath is the sign of the Old Covenant between God and Israel. A covenant which the NT tells us is obsolete and has disappeared (Heb 8). Why should I proclaim to people that I am a Jew and that I am keeping a covenant which is no longer in existence, by keeping its sign??

Regarding the statements in the NT about the “commandments”—the Jews never would have understood “the commandments” to refer to the 10 Cs. The Jews have always referred to “the mitsvah” (“the commandments”) to mean ALL 613 commands in the Mosaic Law. In fact, the Bible never used the phrase “the Ten Commandments”—that is a mistranslation. The Hebrew word translated commandments, dabar, simply means “words.” It does not at all mean “commandments.” So it says the Ten Words. In fact, the Bible never refers to the Ten Words as “the commandments.” No Jew would have understood Jesus to mean the Ten Words, when He said to keep His commandments (Greek, entole). He meant HIS teachings and commands. 1 John 3:22-23 defines what “the commandments” are:

and whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do the things that are pleasing in His sight. 23This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us.”

Jeremy

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This might be an overly simply question that all of you who have done much more study will laugh and mock at, but I am ignorant in many ways on this subject so please forgive me. But it seems to me that what is being said here are a few things.

1. The sabbath, or Sunday, is no longer to be kept as a sabbath as in the old testament.

2. We are called to still observe this day as a time of meeting together and not foresaking the assembly.

3. Christians are within their liberty to treat it as any other day.

So my questions is this, if Sunday (or whatever you prefer to call the former sababth) is no longer to be set apart in a special way, then how can you guard the assembling of the saints. If I choose to work on Sunday and therefore miss church, to what would you appeal to in order to censure me for missing the assembly? I could easily respond that you should have the assembly on a Tuesday or Wednesday, or if the assmebly for some reason had to be on a Sunday, I could state that it should just be at 10pm or 5pm, and if Sunday is not a special day made holy to the Lord, what would be the response?

Again, I plead ignorance if this has been addressed already, I am just confused by the practical implications for Christian living.

Lastly, if the entire decalogue and all the “rules” of the old testament are no longer valid, then what about issues not addressed directly in the new testament such as incest abd beastiality, I know someone will inevitably bring up the porneia argument, but you would have to work pretty hard to prove that all of the moral prohibitons covered under the old testament can be explained by the comparatively limited exhortations contained in the new testament. If they cannot be proven by new testament terminology then under what authority can believers that abandon the “law” be required to abstain from such practices?

Great topic, I read about 1/3 of the responses and have been impressed by the civil tones sometimes lacking in theological blogging, I would really appreciate any response.

Robin Rhea

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Comment 49 argued strangely that Christians aren’t even obligated to come together and worship on the Lord’s Day.

Not so strangely. If we choose to meet on Saturday, what is in the New Testement “law” to force us to esteem one day over another?

the New Covenenant says not to forsake the gathering together - it does not say what do we must meet.

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Robin,

Regarding bestiality and incest: were these practices wrong BEFORE the law of Moses was given? If so, how do you know?

I think answering this will go a long way in answering your question.

gh

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Also to Robin,

I found this article that may prove helpful:

http://soundofgrace.com/jgr/index033.htm

He does discuss the porneia argument, but perhaps in a different way than the way it is typically used (as referenced in your above post).

Hope this is useful.

gh

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Garrett,I do appreciate your civil spirit in this discussion, even if you belong to my former church. Thanks for bringing up that reference from John Reisinger’s website soundofgrace.com By the way, he has some wonderful material on the decalogue and New Covenant theology. Here is a classic article specifically on the believer’s Sabbath athttp://www.soundofgrace.com/jgr/index076.htmand then I just posted his definition of New Covenant theology also there http://www.soundofgrace.com/jgr/index047.htm

I hope you have either read these articles while you were over there on that web site, because Reisinger is coming at this issue with no former SDA axe to grind. He is also great on Reformed theology. So for all of my Reformed brethren who want to review this topic further, I promise you will find it interesting.

Stan

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The absolute fact is that the Bible does not say which day or days we must meet together—it simply says to gather together.

Say somene only goes to church once a week, on Sunday morning. If someone else goes to church on Tuesdays and Wednesdays, aren’t they obeying Heb 10 more than the first person is?

Most large churches have services of some kind every day of the week. And other churches have services on Saturday evening, Sunday, mid-week, etc. Most churches have at least a mid-week service in addition to Sunday services.

But if the only time you could assemble with other believers at a church in your area was on a Sunday—then yes you would be wrong to not attend Sunday service.

But it has nothing to do with the DAY.

It’s all about Jesus and growing in grace.

Jeremy

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I love the Sabbath! I keep it each week and it has proven to be a wonderful time of spiritual focus! And just so I can add my two cents, I do believe God intends us to keep in on Saturday. I know many of you disagree, but Biblically that’s very clear to me. (I don’t think the arguments I have heard to the contrary are very strong.)

Regardless, the Sabbath is great!

Doug

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Doug, I agree that the Sabbath is wonderful for you. I LOVED the Sabbath as an Adventist. The Sabbath, though, was never as intimate and personal as the presence of Jesus that I have experienced since I decided to risk giving up everything and entrusting myself entirely to Jesus. I had no idea how much my holding onto the shadow kept me from living in the reality of Him.

Andrew, seeing the 10 Commandments as being obsolete now that Christ has come does not equal antinomianism. I am not looking for permission to sin. Besides, the Mosaic law doesn’t begin to cover the sins to which we are drawn as fallen humans.

Ephesians 4-5 (as only one example) is clear that all immorality, impurity, greed, obscenity, foolish talk, coarse joking, lying, stealing indulged anger, bitterness, rage, brawling, slander, malice, foolishness, drunkenness, debauchery, etc. are completely unacceptable in the life of a Christ-follower. And just in case this list isn’t comprehensive enough, 5:8-13 gives general guidlines: we WERE darkness, but now we’re children of light. Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but expose them.

If the numerous and repetitive lists in the New Testament of unacceptable behavior don’t seem to be enough to guide moral behavior, perhaps Romans 2:12-15 sheds light. In this passage Paul shows that the Gentiles, who traditionally did not have the law and therefore did not possess any special revelation from God as did Israel, still sometimes by nature did the things required by the law.

They are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law, sinced they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them.”

This “law-keeping” by the pre-cross Gentiles who had no special revelation was possible because God’s eternal morality was imprinted on their consciences. Those who lived by this conviction were not among those described in Romans 1 who suppressed the truth of God with their own wickedness.

If pagan Gentiles with no knowledge of God and no special revelation available to them were able to live morally by the moral requirements of the law being written on their consciences (an act of God to be sure!), then why would regenerate, born-of-the-Spirit Christ-followers who have the special revelation of Scripture and of Jesus Himself need the Decalogue in order to know how to live? We now have much more than mere conscience; we have God Himself living in us! He does not need the Decalogue in order to instruct us!

Garrett, I do not have a blog, but I do post on the forum at www.FormerAdventist.com. Check it out!

Colleen

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Just to add to what Colleen said about people having consciences and knowing morality. I doubt their consciences told them to keep 1 day out of every 7 holy! It is not an issue of morality that is part of people’s consciences—it was a ceremonial law. Check out the following web page explaining this fact: http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Believer’s%20Corner/sabbath_moral_or_ceremonial_law.htm

Jeremy

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I would like to second Colleen’s comments. I will try to link the website that many of us discuss the great issues of the New Covenant, and the real significance of the Sabbath, fulfilled in Christ.

http://www.formeradventist.com

For those of you who want to discuss the Sabbath and the New Covenant and discover why Adventism is not just another Christian religion, then you are invited to join our discussion.

Stan

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Stan,

I think you may have me mixed up with someone else, unless the “Stan” from comment 93 is different from the “Stan” from comment 98! Whatever the case, I’ve found your comments (whoever you are) to be very helpful as well.

gh

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Jeremy and Ellen,

Changing worship services from the Lord’s Day to “whenever” is a very recent phenomenon that has to do more with catering to what people desire, than seeking to follow Scripture in when and how we worship.

The attributes of the church are characterized well in the apostles creed “one,” “holy,” “catholic,” “apostolic.”

It is the designation “apostolic” that I’d like to address. What does it mean for a church to be an “apostolic church?” It is a church founded on the Gospel witness given by the Spirit through the apostles. The early church didn’t look all that different than the synagogue. It was ruled by “presbuteroi” as was the synagogue, it contained teaching from God’s Word, a form of government that had the right of appeal, etc. However there was one difference, following Christ’s resurrection they met on the *first* day of the week, instead of the last. This is the testimony of Scripture, and the consistent practice of the church for the last 2,000 years until very recently. The exception being the SDA’s whose ultimate problem is one of authority and the belief in binding extrabiblical revelation. This problem in itself can lead to any number of problems, for instance the Branch Davidians, a schism from the SDA’s…..

The entire Christian life is to be worship, living to honor and glorify God in everything. However, Christ’s church gathers on the Lord’s Day as a corporate body to worship together. Any other midweek service is an additional opportunity for worship and fellowship, but ought never to subvert worship on the Lord’s Day with the saints.