General Session 3 - Mark Dever

Perhaps one of the most amusing aspect of this conference is the regular "pastor rushes." Every time a session begins, a crowd gathers around each of the ten or twelve doors to the worship center. At the moment the doors open, a crowd of pastors rush to the front, seeking to nab the premier spots. They will, quite literally, sprint to the front, sometimes even pushing and shoving a little bit to get there. It makes for sick comedy and generates a lot of comments and giggles from bystanders. Tomorrow I may try to snap a picture of this in action!

This morning we will be treated to a session led by Mark Dever of Capitol Hill Baptist Church who will speak on unbelief.

He began by reflecting for a short time on the message John MacArthur brought us last night. He asked, if this message we bring is so wonderful, why would anyone ever not believe it? Why didn't the younger brother, the older brother and the pharisees we learned about last night believe? Why don't our friends and relatives believe? This is a question that haunts believers and unbelievers alike and was the topic of Jesus in John 12, beginning at verse 37 and continuing to the end of the chapter.

The Unbelievers

Though Jesus had done so many miraculous signs, the people still did not believe in Him. This passage concludes the series of signs that define the first part of the gospel. The tragic story of the first 12 chapters is summarized in the first verses: "His own did not receive Him." This was the grim reality that the recipients of this letter would have labored under.

Why did so many reject Jesus? Those who minister today labor in their churches as they do because of their answer to that question. Will they believe if we change our music? Will they believe if we lower the lights?

The nature of unbelief: John, following in the footsteps of Jesus, turns to the Scripture to answer this question. He turns to a quotation from Isaiah 53 and by examining this passage we can understand what John sought to call to mind. The people's rejection of the Messiah was part of the Messiah's substitutionary atonement for us. Isaiah shows us a comprehensive unbelief. Belief, and therefore unbelief, never involve the mind alone.

The core of unbelief: The core of unbelief is a lack of acceptance of Jesus' words. Rejecting His words is rejecting Him - His person. This is a pattern we see throughout Scripture. God's word in the Garden of Eden was clear, but Adam and Eve rejected this word and thus, they rejected God. In Adam we have all sinned and have all rejected the word. The Bible continues with the story of what it means like to reject God. Central to Jesus' message is that He has not rejected God and is in intimate communion with Him. This has great ramifications for anyone who would seek to love or worship a Jesus who is different than what we read in Scripture. This is a live issue in the church today where the substitutionary atonement is under constant attack. It may involve the academic hubris of recasting the words of Christ or involve subverting the rest of the New Testament in an apparent effort to make the rest of the Bible better "fit" Jesus' words. If we are would believe, we cannot change or disbelieve the words of Christ.

Reasons for unbelief: Verse forty says that they would not believe "so they would turn and be healed." The purpose is that they will not turn and be healed. It is not that these people are unwilling to turn, but are unable to turn. It is impossible for them to turn as they did not have the power. These people we love and pray for and preach to - they do not have the power to turn. Now, of course, formally they do have some power, but not the power as in the virtue, strength or disposition. They have no such power to believe.

At the end of his life Moses summoned the people and reminded them of all they had seen God do. But to that day the Lord had not given them the ability to see, hear and understand. The same is true with Isaiah and thus with John. God had not given a mind to understand, eyes to see or ears to hear. Did God to this merely by not extending grace? And certainly there is a self-hardening aspect of sin and thus we are all culpable for our own unbelief. But do note that God is also said to be active in causing hardening in unbelief as a just punishment for those who have deliberately chosen to be what they are. It is a judicial hardening.

Pastor Dever shared that he has taught this today to protect pastors from those within the Christian world who seek to sell a product or program in order to prey upon the conscience of the pastor. There are so many who seek to tell us that the reason people do not believe is that we have not bought into their program or product.

In Isaiah 6 God tells the prophet to preach to the people and Isaiah asks how long. How long are we to bring this message? In Romans 11 Paul answers "until the fullness of the Gentiles is complete."

There are five applications to this:

God's activity is never pitted against human responsibility: "You do not have to cut out Romans 9 to have Romans 10." The doctrines of election or reprobation, like in Paul's ministry, ought to bring greater emphasis to evangelism. We are to preach to everyone, not attempting to discern who is elect and who is not. We bring the message in faithfulness and let God do His work. God loves us and wants us to be in on this. He is glorified by our recounting of the gospel. He uses us because He loves us.

God's sovereignty is also a ground of hope: Our only hope is that God is sovereign. A pastor will not keep preaching without an understanding of God's sovereignty. The problems of another person may look insurmountable, but do you not remember what you were like before you were saved? We must never look down on another person and assume that he will never be saved. The only reason anyone is ever saved is because of God's sovereignty.

Unbelief is somehow part of God's larger plan of redemption: "I don't really know much more about it than that."

Note the hardening effect of the Word: In the ministries of Moses and Isaiah, the ministries of people in church history and especially the ministry of Jesus we see that the preaching of the word has a hardening effect. Sometimes we see people becoming harder through our ministries because we are doing something right.

Be willing to serve even when a ministry seems unfruitful: God, in His sovereignty, calls us to be faithful ministers and see no results. Jesus preached to Judas all the time, even though He knew what was in Judas. Somehow the glorious grace of God was displayed and portrayed when the Lord preached to Judas.

There will be times, of course, where a pastor has done a poor job and has not been faithful. But there are times where a pastor has been faithful. In these times we are following in the feet of Jesus who was rejected. Pastors are not called to generate results, but to be faithful.

It is clear that the general hardening of people did not preclude the salvation of all people.

Real belief:

Real belief centers on Jesus: This was true even for Isaiah. He saw Jesus' glory and spoke of Him. Christ is known by the prophets through the Holy Spirit. Again, hearing Jesus is hearing God. Seeing Jesus is seeing God. Faith in Jesus involves the mind, the ears, the eyes and is an acknowledgment that we are seeing God.

Believing in Jesus brings benefits: Believing in Jesus leads to, and actually is, eternal life.

Three Applications:

  • The objective component: You need to have a clarity on the gospel which is composed of particular words. Holy, perfect, image, unwilling, choice. But God, who would have been just to consign us to hell, has run out to us by taking on flesh and becoming incarnate. We are called to repent and trust and so be saved. A pastor must continually drill his congregation on the gospel! If our members do not know the gospel, there is great responsibility for this upon the pastor.

  • The subjective component: The subjective component is the fulness of belief. There must be a subjective appropriation of the gospel. There must be more than mere mental assent.

  • Real faith is tied to the word: We cannot separate truth from the word of God.

Any real faith must be built upon the real word and must be centered on Jesus.

Comments (15)

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Anonymous's picture

Wow. Thanks for providing all this, Tim. The details you manage to get out so quickly are amazing.

Does anyone know if there is a way to hear this conference (MP3) after it is over?

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Anonymous's picture

Tim, I am so sorry I wasn’t able to make it there with you. Each review I read stirs my heart - sounds like an amazing conference.

Pastors are not called to generate results, but to be faithful.”

This is such a huge statement that we need to hear. We tend to confuse the two, or to assume that faithfulness will always bring “successful results”. What a great word from Pastor Dever.

Thanks for letting all of us back at home listen in!

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Anonymous's picture

Davey,

All seminars and sessions at the conference are recorded and will be available for download in mp3 format. Go to this page to get started: https://www.gracechurch.org/shepnew/mp3dl.asp

If you click on the link for CDs/Tapes you will be taken to another page that will allow you to order the messages on cd. There are cds that will have multiple mp3 files on them as well as cds in regular cda format. At this page you can also order the cds from prior conferences.

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Anonymous's picture

Tim said, “At the moment the doors open, a crowd of pastors rush to the front, seeking to nab the premier spots. They will, quite literally, sprint to the front, sometimes even pushing and shoving a little bit to get there. It makes for sick comedy and generates a lot of comments and giggles from bystanders.”

Thanks for sharing that gem of an observation, Tim. I guess pastors can sometimes be just as human as the rest of us.

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Anonymous's picture

Tim-

Any comments on the conference beside the teaching? Hopefully you’re noticing there is a lot more to this conference than the teaching…particularly, the HOSPITALITY. Registration gifts, free books, hard boiled eggs. Some conferences charge PASTORS $3.50 for a soda at their gigs!?! Dan Dumas, his staff, and the members of Grace Church go all out to do everything possible to treat the men as best as possible. Of course, this is primarily accomplished by good - the best- Bible teaching, but please comment on the atmosphere and what you see happening in between sessions as well. Many of those men are there b/c Grace Church members paid their scholarships; or probably John MacArthur himself paid for their registration, and airfare, rental car, and then gave them his coat when they got there. He probably know the names of over half the men in that room!!! Seriously. Interview some guys, get some feedback from the men, let us know what’s going on in the hearts of the attendees, and how they are being blessed. go get your shoes shined and get to know the guys shinging your shoes and the guys on your right and left and give us a blog to report!!

ThanksJohn

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Anonymous's picture

By the way…thanks Tim for what you’re doing…it’s been great…

But it’s so funny…everyone who posts comments on what a great job TIM is doing (lol !!) when these guys, like Phil Johnson, spend their lifetimes preparing for these messages, countless hours of study, then exude the energy to pour their hearts out in front of thousands of men…and we see… great job TIM!! Ha ha ha.

To be fair, many comment on the speakers, like Clyde. Hey Clyde!! Clyde is the man everybody.

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Anonymous's picture

Thanks for the reporting. As a layperson in the Church who attended the conference three years ago, I have always obtained the mp3’s of the speakers. Mark Dever has a knack of bringing clarity to important Church issues (the basics) often set aside in the name of progress.

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Anonymous's picture

Okay, I’ll praise one of the speakers even though I’m not there.

Dever IS the man!!!

I give him a major portion of the credit for me getting up the guts to pull my family out of the watered-down mega church we had been involved at for 8 years to go find a biblically healthy church. It hasn’t been easy, and has taken well over a year…but I think God has finally led us to a church that would make Dever proud.

Thank you, Mark, for all the hard work you and the other speakers put into these conferences. The full fruit of your labors may not be fully known until we see each other in heaven. Keep fighting the good fight…

Tim…if you can take some pictures and post them…that would be awesome!!!

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Anonymous's picture

Thanks Papa John. I appreciate your enthusiasm for the details. Praise God for the details. The important thing about the volunteers is that they serve to not be a distraction, which may translate into being un-noticed, which in a sense is a very good thing. We have been trained well.

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Anonymous's picture

You’re right Clyde…good point. thanks for noticing and mentioning. Are you there or working?

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Anonymous's picture

i am working, but wishing greatly i could be there. i will be around briefly tomorrow afternoon, i’m trying to meet Tim and then off to lunch with Sean. Lisa and I are planning to attend Friday evening. Should we sit together?

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Anonymous's picture

Yes, Clyde, it would be great to see you and your family and I can introduce you to my new little son!! we are planning on attending tonight as well. Did you read Mohler’s sermon from last night? Phew!! Good stuff. I suppose we ought to sit in the nosebleed section…they’re probably going to be using Kaiser Permanente to hold overflow tonight!

John

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Anonymous's picture

Remember, we are getting what we paid for. Figure it out, 3,300 times $300.00 equates to nearly $1,000,000.00! That’s a lot of money for a 10.00 sachel, hard boiled eggs, and krispy kreme doughnuts…

Just think about how many national pastors could be equipped for ministry in their own countries!

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Anonymous's picture

Did you write this correctly Tim?

Reasons for unbelief: Verse forty says that they would not believe “so they would turn and be healed.” The purpose is that they will not turn and be healed. It is not that these people are unwilling to turn, but are unable to turn.”

I was under the assumption that it was the other way around. We have the physical ability, just not the moral one. We could say yes, we just don’t want to choose Jesus!

Am I wrong?

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Anonymous's picture

I have purchased the mp3’s of all the general sessions.#1 & #2 with Dr. MacArthur were, simply put , amazing. I have just listened to this session on mp3. I found Mark Dever to be wonderfuly gifted and inspiring.

Tim WAS doing and DID do a great job of blogging the conference for those of us that could not attend.To post an opinion that trys to diminish these efforts or slight those of us that voiced our appriciation smacks of haughtiness. As if we were unable to or do not recognize the emormous commitment of the men that were the source of his disemination.

I could liken it to thinking ;

’ when these guys, like Phil Johnson, spend their lifetimes preparing for these messages, countless hours of study, then exude the energy to pour their hearts out in front of thousands of men…and we see… (lol)While The One who gave His Life, Who bore the sin of the world,suffering much…

But I won’t. Methinks there is more here than meets the eye.

Also,

Remember, we are getting what we paid for…..and’That’s a lot of money for a 10.00 sachel, hard boiled eggs, and krispy kreme doughnuts…’

I spent $30US for the mp3’s and found the messages to be invaluable . To have been able to be in the presence of a room full of so many spirit filled men of God, I’m sure to me would have been priceless.But I suppose it’s like my ol’ daddy used to say;you get out of something as much as you put in.

I stand in awe of Our Lord and in gratitude to Tim, John, Mark..et al.philip